F.O.F and Clen together?

Be careful Aunty ..do what Furk suggested and search ..Google..not sure what CYT3 is..hope it is not the same as T3 ?..take the FOF when u finish the CYT3 or if u are healthy and have a strong heart and feeling adventureous u can take one each and see how it makes u feel ..be careful when doing cardio ..not good advice but then ..
Let us know .

ok CYX3 = yombe and clen together

on second thoughts DONT mix with FOF

CYT3 = Clen Yohimbine T3. T3 is so good at losing mass that it does not discriminate between muscle and fat. So you will lose your hard earned muscle if you don't add an anabolic steroid in the mix. DON'T mix Clen with FOF! Stop listening to these 'experts' and start listening to us.

No i only have CYT3 and f.o.f

@pyroclasm im glad you commented on question you seem like the best person to talk to about clen. Im a 22 year old female that isnt interested in taking anabolic steroids. Im not competing im just looking to lose some stubborn fat by my love handles, lower abdominals and inner thights. What should of been the best thing to do? Not take CYT3 and rather take clen? Im also interested in knowing if Nomad lab is shit?? On some recent questions i see you and many guys say that it is shit???

Ive been on this site awile now and i can tell you these guys know what they are talking about.

They gave me some pointers on how to use and how to eat and im back in shape and harder then ever.

I think all people get different results. i would start with clen first (with keto) and see how it works for me. Make sure your weight program is also right .. coz those stubborn ones go only with the right diet and hard training.

then use CYX3 and see what results you get. I got best results with clen and T3 (only T3 for a while coz it eats ur muscles also..)
Cannot comment on nomad lab.

us ladies need to help and direct each other..

fitness gal did you buy the CYX3? If so try and sell it to a guy friend who is on anabolics, like pyro said, that's the only time it's safe and I'd hate to see what the muscle-catabolism can do on a lady. Otherwise ask your "expert" friend to trade it for pure clen. The reason why CYX3 is supposedly so effective is the clen and yohimbine work in synergy (almost like 1 + 1 = 3 affect) and the T3 is quite potent.

For future, go with clen + yohimbe (at strategic times in the day) for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks off or on Ephedrine/ GW or something else (not a beta-2 agonist). T3 requires your body to have to much assistance to keep it safe. Does the FOF package say what quantity of yohimbine is contained in the pills?

iMan wrote: Do not know of any OTC ketotifen pills, only the syrup one? If that's the one you are talking about, the syrup is a lot cheaper and you know exactly that that dose is correct

Yeah and it's seems like the syrup has been discontinued. Bugger, was well priced, and it has real ketotifen, not benadryl.

fitness gal wrote: @pyroclasm im glad you commented on question you seem like the best person to talk to about clen. Im a 22 year old female that isnt interested in taking anabolic steroids. Im not competing im just looking to lose some stubborn fat by my love handles, lower abdominals and inner thights. What should of been the best thing to do? Not take CYT3 and rather take clen? Im also interested in knowing if Nomad lab is shit?? On some recent questions i see you and many guys say that it is shit???

Thanx bud appreciate the vote of confidence. If I were you I would give the CYT3 back to your supplier and ask him for some pure Clen and pure yohimbine. Clen and yohimbine run in synergy. Nomad is kinda like the Julius Malema of the steroid world- all the uninformed use it but it really is a piece of shit at the end of the day. You're diet and training seems pretty decent so it's rights to start looking at some fatburners as an aid. I would change diet to a keto diet though if I were you, but there are plenty of ways to skin a cat. So keto along with Clen and Yohimbine is a potent combo and we have had amazing results on this forum.

@Fork no the f.o.f packaging doesnt tell you how much yohimbine it contains. only ingredience is "caffeine, green tea extract, gaurana, l-tyrosine, yohimbine bark extract, vitamin b3, vitamin b6."

@pyroclasm :woohoo: Julius...you say hahaha. If nomad lab is shitty which anabolic lab is rated the best?? And how would i be able to get hold of their products? Keto diet you say...can i just google "keto diet?" Thanx guys for all the help i feel like im actually getting somewhere now

We have had a couple of really nice threads on here about keto so hit the search functions and hopefully you can find it. Best brands for AAS are PGW, Liquid Pharmaceuticals, Oraltech, British Dispemsory, and Alpha Pharma. Alpha Pharma being my favourite.

fitness gal wrote: @pyroclasm :woohoo: Julius...you say hahaha. If nomad lab is shitty which anabolic lab is rated the best?? And how would i be able to get hold of their products? Keto diet you say...can i just google "keto diet?" Thanx guys for all the help i feel like im actually getting somewhere now

Yeah thought so, would be nice if you could control the dose of yohimbine according to your weight.

As for Keto check out this thread: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...at-ketogenic-dieting

or

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...ic-diet?limitstart=0

@pyro Thanks alot for the brands. Never going to touch nomad lab again! First time i took clen was the liquid drops from LP and it worked like a charm! But this was before i knew that you should take ketotein with it.

@furk I know its a pitty! Not much info on the f.o.f bottle. Yusi keto is a heavy protein diet, you just eat damn protein :blink: But im keen to try it:) going to work out my grams that im aloud tonight then i might want to start monday...

What exactly is yohimbine? And why is it better to take this when you are on clen??

Thanks again guys

Yohimbine is an extract from a species(s) plants, this is the pure chemical we want. Yohimbe is the plant itself/ trade names of herbal extracts. It works by antagonising the alpha-2 receptors where clen agonises your beta-2 receptors. What this means is they enhance each others affects, b2 and a2 work in opposition and the 2 together make them compliment each other.

Keto is revelatory easy to follow once you understand it, and even when you can't control exactly what you eat, it's easy to make the right choices to follow the diet.

If i need help on the keto diet ill keep you updated if advice is needed

Which anabolic brand sells yohimbine? Or is it a pharmacy bought product?
Which form is purest? tabs, liquid ect?

I'm using Liquid Pharmaceutical's at the moment. Pure, legit and works. Only problem is 10mg caps. 10mg pills would be nice as to cut them for exact dosing.

Otherwise G-tech produces Blikzzzm, it's basically yohimbine and other ingredients to help the yoh get transported. Won't be surprised if it's just caffeine. Caffeine is good for the yoh as well but probably not all that necessary.

Furk wrote: I'm using Liquid Pharmaceutical's at the moment. Pure, legit and works. Only problem is 10mg caps. 10mg pills would be nice as to cut them for exact dosing.

Why would you want to dose lower than 10mg?

Safehouse wrote:

Furk wrote: I'm using Liquid Pharmaceutical's at the moment. Pure, legit and works. Only problem is 10mg caps. 10mg pills would be nice as to cut them for exact dosing.

Why would you want to dose lower than 10mg?

For the light weight babies

Safehouse wrote:

Furk wrote: I'm using Liquid Pharmaceutical's at the moment. Pure, legit and works. Only problem is 10mg caps. 10mg pills would be nice as to cut them for exact dosing.

Why would you want to dose lower than 10mg?

Because I would like to dose 15mg on waking. I weight about 70kg. That said 10mg is working fine, especially on clen. Must be 6%BF right now.

why dont u use the FOF and in the meam time get hold of the Anavar female stack ...it is low dose anavar designed for females ... when u get u can take the CYT3 ?
Keto buy the way is FAT and Protein 50 / 50... gets the system into using fat for energy
because of the fact there are no carbs to use as energy.

mike123 wrote: why dont u use the FOF and in the meam time get hold of the Anavar female stack ...it is low dose anavar designed for females ...

Bad advice right there. She wants to loose some fat, don't complicate things by brining anbolics in if it can be done without. Then you have to consider PCT, liver toxcity and thyroid support if you intend to run the CYT3. I simply can't agree with that mik123. Especially considering that we are talking about lady. fitness gal your training looks good and on Keto you will shed fast.

mike123 wrote: Keto buy the way is FAT and Protein 50 / 50... gets the system into using fat for energy
because of the fact there are no carbs to use as energy.

Nope. 50/50 is an easy way to reckon macro distribution on Keto but is no way accurate for everybody - especially if you are lifting. fitness gal if you know how much calories you need to get in I can help you out. But for now its safe to say 190g protein, the remainder from fats. Read those links I pasted earlier in this thread for some tips and guidelines.

ok... I was refering to the 5mg anavars at 10 mg for ladies this will prevent muscle loss ...its her choice if she wants to go that rout ..being bad advice...debateable..
clen yombe t3 / anavar and PCT 1

My first keto was based on the Atkins diet were u eat 6 meals of protein and fat for 6 weeks and then add fibre carbs ..there was no measuring of food and I lost a shit load of weight
I understand getting technical with the keto if u want to go on stage but for basic weight loss ???
cool bud