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Age 20´s
Length 1.87m
Weight 87kgs
BF 13% (guestimate only)
Diet by DJ
Supplements: See my thread on supps entitled 'Creating our own Pre-and Post Workout'.
Already running Vitamin C, Omega 3 oils, evening primrose oils, Calcium tabs, and a good multivit.
My target is not to get big but put on lean, ripped, quality muscle. In nature I want to look like a tiger rather than looking like a bear.
So this is my idea of a first proper cycle:
Week 1-15: Test-E @600mg/week
1-6: T-Bol @50mg ED
1-20: Proviron @40mg ED
16-20: Winstrol Oral @50mg ED
Arimidex on hand
I am thinking about adding:
Week 16-22: Clen Oral start @40mcg, taper up by 20mcg every 3 days up to 120mcg + ketotifen
1-12: Equipoise @500mg/week
Increasing the Proviron to 60mg ED from week 3
16-20: Anavar @60mg ED
PCT: Full Doctari PCT, 30 days after last shot of Test-E or 42 days after last shot of Equi. Is the full Doctari PCT maybe overkill?
Going to be running essential liver tabs throughout.
Cycle history:
Have done three fat smash cycles of 6 weeks each containing Clen oral or injectable, T3 up to 100mcg, Proviron start @40mg up to 60mg at week 3, Winstrol oral @50mg ED. No PCT (no proper education).
Training
Weights 4 days a week
Cardio: Currently about 4 days a week. Not too sure on how cardio should look while on cycle? I am going to do 6 days a week when the bridge hits.
Dedication and motivation is at 170%. Have been eating clean for about 3 years now, really enjoying my gymming, and have even proven to myself over the last 2 months that I do not need any alcohol to function as a student. Two of my mates are also starting their cycles now so we will definately be keeping each other motivated.
I have two choices when it comes to the brands I can get. Both sources are good friends of mine and also give me everything at cost price which is nice.
The first guy can get Axio labs. He just moved there from PGW and LP because he says it is more affordable (freaking idiot I know!). He is using the Axio gear himself and says the stuff is amazing, but I know for a fact though his education is lacking big time. For example he run a d-Bol only 5 week cycle with no PCT. HAHA!
The second guy has extensive personal experience with gear and is a young bodybuilder himself. He has just moved to Alpha Pharma and Organon and is using their stuff personally. I have experienced the Clen from Alpha Pharma and I must say I was very impressed.
Which supplier would you go for? Would you get the best of both worlds?
Anyone's 2c, 5c, 20c or R2 would be appreciated.
Add after cycle:
Can't find a definitive post in my log of what I used. My cycle:
Week 1-14: Testoviron @500mg per week
Week1-12: Alpha Pharma EQ (Boldebolin) @500mg per week
Week 1-PCT: Schering Proviron @60mg ED
Week 1-6: Axio T-Bol @60mg ED
Week 15-PCT: Axio Winstrol @50mg ED
Week 15-PCT: Injectable Clenbuterol, taper up to 120mcg ED
Week 15-PCT: Aspen T3, taper up to 100mcg ED
PCT 3
Things I would change:
Add Yohimbine to the Clen
PGW Test-Cyp. Test was fake/underdosed.
All orals LP
HCG on cycle
Anavar instead of Winstrol
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Pyroclasm wrote:
My target is not to get big but put on lean, ripped, quality muscle. In nature I want to look like a tiger rather than looking like a bear.
Theres your answer RVP01
or 42 days after last shot of Equi.
This 1 should be 50 days after last shot of EQUIP
IMO the bridging is to much orals, ill split the 3 and do the proviron and winny together and do the clen on its own. remember to use HCG EOD during your cycle for the shrinkage of your nuts if you gonna be using EQUIP
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Nice simple cycle.
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Also how fast did the strength increases from Tbol take to kick in? And could you maybe give some examples of your strength increases?
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Difficult to explain the strength increases because i changed my style of training when i started the cycle. What i can tell you is that i could go significantly heavier week on week. I normally dont train to heavy but focus more on higher reps with slow good form. At the end of the 5 weeks i could easily do about 4 sets of 12 to 15reps on 100kg. I normally dont train close to that
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MASSMONSTA wrote:
Pyroclasm wrote:
remember to use HCG EOD during your cycle for the shrinkage of your nuts if you gonna be using EQUIP
is the hcg eod really needed cause i dont enjoy those injections and to have to do that during cycle and not just during pct would suck.
Was thinking of adding equip to my second cycle next year!
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I am still waiting for someone to tell me whether it is a good idea to add the Equi for a first cycle.
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Pyroclasm wrote: O okay I see bro! Yeah that could be nice and it should add some more motivation.
I am still waiting for someone to tell me whether it is a good idea to add the Equi for a first cycle.
I would say no...
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Maybe the appetite is good and the lean gains, but with dj's diet you should be sorted!!
If appetite is a problem use ghrp-6! I shot that stuff once and after 20min my stomach was rumbling!!
Although I was told you should be older than 21-23 I think before using peptides.
Just my R9... :lol:
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manery wrote: Gorilia if he's just trying to add on lean mass without fat and water, I dont think he'll be putting on 10-15kgs!! Thats alot of pure muscle. I agree with what you've said about leaving the EQ tho.
Net 'n voorbeeld bra...
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just check waldus thread....
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gorilla wrote: dj diet=equipoise lean mass without pct needed! :woohoo:
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@Gorilla: Please read my initial post for this thread again. I specifically made it clear that there are only four monetary values to be accepted on this thread. R9 was not one of them. Please discount this amount and try not to clog my thread with illegal moneys. Also would you say that the Equi would be a waste then?
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