Rich Piana's cycle advise

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14 Jul 2013 22:37 #144138 by manery
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Some bad advise given by rich piana IMO

"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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14 Jul 2013 23:22 - 15 Jul 2013 07:42 #144141 by Pyroclasm
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So don't listen to medical studies, try everything for yourself and see what happens. There is a whole world of information out there (granted lots of bullshit) but some of it is gold. You don't have to do all the work by yourself there has been decades of good research you can use to your benefit. Also you can't use HCG during cycle cause the one says turn off and the other says turn on which is bad?? Eish wena caveman tendencies! :unsure:
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15 Jul 2013 09:24 #144147 by Koe007
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This video clip was brilliant. Im sorry many of you will still need to grow into understanding 2hat he is saying here. Fact is no there is not tons of research done on humans because its illegal.
This that he is saying is a fact accept it or reject it.

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15 Jul 2013 10:00 #144154 by Oupa
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Koe007 wrote: Im sorry many of you will still need to grow into understanding 2hat he is saying here.


Hahaha,come on..... it does not take a rocket scientist to understand what he is saying.
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15 Jul 2013 10:37 #144159 by manery
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There is alot of good and bad info on the net and he is very naive if he thinks he knows it all and that everything else he reads is just bullshit because its not the way he does it ???? :/. Just because something seems logical doesn't actually mean shit.

"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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15 Jul 2013 12:34 #144171 by Witwolf
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Agreed. It seemed logical that the earth was flat. Science does not work on the premise that if something 'seems' logical it must be correct. Hypothesise then prove it.

He's an arrogant prick in my opinion. Obviously he's irritated by the fact the he gets harrassed by thousands of people who want advice on AAS. How can he tell people to disregard EVERYTHING they've read and claim that people are ignorant and uninformed, when there's obviously a general consensus on what works and what doesn't. So he's right, and the majority of the internet is wrong? I am definately biased in that I think he's an asshole. But irrespective, bashing on people who seek advice and guidance and not helping them find answers proves that imo. Useless video which did in all honesty not add anything of worth to what I know or understand. Mabey after 20 years and 5 cycles under ones belt there's an "aha" moment to what he says. But the reality is most people ARE noobs and need advice which has been tested and proven. He bashes the noobs but only adds to confusion.
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15 Jul 2013 13:32 #144184 by PoisonedPulse
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Koe007 wrote: This video clip was brilliant. Im sorry many of you will still need to grow into understanding 2hat he is saying here. Fact is no there is not tons of research done on humans because its illegal.
This that he is saying is a fact accept it or reject it.


I must agree ... Great clip,
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15 Jul 2013 16:57 #144210 by Muscleaddict
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Only got round to watching this now. I appreciate his honesty and agree with a lot of what Rich says because people will believe anything they read on the internet that is written in good english, with a few fancy words thrown in. But I totally disagree about HCG. The logic he is using by saying you can't switch on and switch off testosterone production totally misses the point of why it's used on cycle.

To be a pro bodybuilder you need to accept the possibility that you will end up on TRT for the rest of your life, and that you could end up infertile. So looking after long term testicular function is the last thing he's worried about. I would listen to dieting, training and steroid advice from the pro's LONG before I'd listen to advice about HPTA health and longevity.

I think I must put together a sticky on all the details around HCG use backed up with the science.
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15 Jul 2013 17:01 #144211 by Oupa
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Muscleaddict wrote:
I think I must put together a sticky on all the details around HCG use backed up with the science.


Good idea bro

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15 Jul 2013 18:29 #144217 by CHAPEL
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Great clip in my opinion.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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15 Jul 2013 18:41 #144218 by mack
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Without disrespecting any athlete's personal experience, a double-blind scientific study on steroids, which is published in a medical journal, is surely a better source of information than a personal experiment? Not all such research is illegal. For example, there's an NCBI study showing how testosterone helps HIV patients maintain lean body mass

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16 Jul 2013 08:20 - 16 Jul 2013 08:20 #144241 by mike123
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Steroids are only illegal without a script ....were used back in the 1940s on the prisoners of war for recuparation the same with HIV patients now days so there should be plenty of medical studies ...body builders however useing double or triple the amount thats another story...
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16 Jul 2013 10:33 #144267 by Zimbulk88
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My opinion is very single person is different and lets say the sides of some drugs are more of a guideline than anything else . For example I know I can smash tren e and tren a with no problem and no sides at all. I take d Bol and the only side I get is mad heart burn to the point I can't sleep. Very one is different and if they want to try a drug it's my opinion they look it up and try in a controlled environment or with the help of a coach. I have tried many different types and now realise what works for me and what doesn't ... Some of the science stuff is great but my opinion practical application trumps science any day. I tried insulin 2 / 3 years ago for 2 weeks and loved it !! Put on quality muscle and as a bridge it's perfect !!! I asked for a protocol on here and got bashed and rightly so. ... I tried it any way and loved it ..

Everyone is different and I think the research should be used as a base but application will yield the more insight in terms of individualism.

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16 Jul 2013 13:31 #144291 by mike123
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Oupa wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote:
I think I must put together a sticky on all the details around HCG use backed up with the science.


Good idea bro


And anything else that needs to be updated in the articles section...if necassery ?

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16 Jul 2013 13:36 #144292 by Oupa
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Yebo Sir OuMike, we shall be doing that in the very near future :)
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16 Jul 2013 21:37 #144352 by Pyroclasm
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I third that motion!

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28 May 2014 08:43 #169319 by Nate40
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Hi MA,

Hope you well. Just trying to find this sticky you were talking about. Am I just overlooking it?

I really do think this is the most important discussion on the site. It is like a microcosm of a much bigger animal. Totally fascinating from an educational perspective.

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08 Aug 2014 08:17 - 08 Aug 2014 08:18 #173068 by Legacy
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Some more nonsense from this guy.





Apparently PCT is only necessary if you have a weak mind...
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08 Aug 2014 09:59 #173077 by Kuifie
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pfft. idiot

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08 Aug 2014 10:15 #173079 by FIllet
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As crude as this may be i cant bring myself to listen to a word this man says, he talks out of his ass.
All i hear is fart noises accompanied by funny smells.
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08 Aug 2014 10:28 #173080 by Kuifie
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hes a living miracle. a man born without a brain.

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08 Aug 2014 11:25 #173082 by Oupa
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Hys n poephol !

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