opinions on next cycle

Hey,

Im planning my next cycle and came up with this:

1-10 test cyp 250mg eod
1-6 tren A 80mg eod
1-3 and 10-12 test prop 100mg eod
10-12 masteron prop 100mg eod

1-12 Adex 0,5mg eod
1-12 proviron 50mg ed

13 clomid 100mg ed
14-15 HCG 500 eod
14-16 nolva 20mg ed
14-16 aromasin 20mg ed

This will be my 4th cycle(including 2x superdrol cycles).

I would value your input and reccommendations.

Thanks in advance

Tippster

Tippster wrote: Hey,

Im planning my next cycle and came up with this:

1-10 test cyp 250mg eod
1-6 tren A 80mg eod
1-3 and 10-12 test prop 100mg eod
10-12 masteron prop 100mg eod

1-12 Adex 0,5mg eod
1-12 proviron 50mg ed

13 clomid 100mg ed
14-15 HCG 500 eod
14-16 nolva 20mg ed
14-16 aromasin 20mg ed

This will be my 4th cycle(including 2x superdrol cycles).

I would value your input and reccommendations.

Thanks in advance

Tippster

How about this:

Week 1-10 test cyp 250mg eod or 750mg/week
Week 8-12 tren A 80mg eod
Week 8-12 test prop 100mg eod
Week 8-12 masteron prop 100mg eod

Week 7-9 500IU HCG (250IU x 2) EOD

Week 1-12 Adex 0,5mg ed
Week 7-12 Proviron 100mg ed

Followed by Doctari PCT

Just a thought.

Thanks for the reply Milktuds.

For anyone who has run tren please can you give me an idea about cardio on tren.

I heard you cant do much and I want to train for a multi-day race but would probably not end up riding alot on the tren?

Thanks

Hey Tippster

I've been running tren ace for about three weeks now and it has completely destroyed my cardio. Before I started the tren I was running 15min every day on the treadmill as well as 10min on the elliptical machine. Now I get to 5min and I'm huffing and puffing and completely exhausted. It's not phasing me to much because the tren is making me like a raging beast in the weights department. Its a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
If I were you I would stay away from tren if you are looking to compete in any endurance event.

By the way, I was looking at your cycle and I'm doing one very similar at the moment. This is what mine looks like:
week 1 - 10: Test Prop 100mg EOD
week 1 - 10: Tren Ace 75mg EOD
week 4 - 10: Winstrol 50mg EOD
week 1 - 10: Proviron 75mg ED
Alternating between Clen 160mcg & Heat 4 tabs/day 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off (1 tab betasleep at night)
week 1 - 8: T3/T4 (diotroxin) 40mcg T3, 360mcg T4
week 9 - 12: L-tyrosine
week 4 - 10: HCG 500IU EOD
week 4 - 10: Nolvadex 20mg ED

PCT will follow Doctari's protocol.

Also running Norditropin HGH at 4IU ED

Your cycle has a lot more test. From week 1-3 and 10-12 you are running 1150mg of test altogether if you combine the prop & cyp. That's pretty hardcore IMO. If you are used to high test doses then sweet if not then perhaps reduce the dose a bit or choose one of the two to run throughout. Also the test cyp is not EOD injections, once/twice a week will be fine.
I would also run the masteron for longer at the end of your cycle. Three to four weeks should be enough to see hardning effects of the masteron.

Hope this can help.

Tippster wrote: Hey,

Im planning my next cycle and came up with this:

1-10 test cyp 250mg eod
1-6 tren A 80mg eod
1-3 and 10-12 test prop 100mg eod
10-12 masteron prop 100mg eod

1-12 Adex 0,5mg eod
1-12 proviron 50mg ed

13 clomid 100mg ed
14-15 HCG 500 eod
14-16 nolva 20mg ed
14-16 aromasin 20mg ed

This will be my 4th cycle(including 2x superdrol cycles).

I would value your input and reccommendations.

Thanks in advance

Tippster

Thats a hectic cycle man that will put on bulk for sure.I'm jealous of your cycle bro.

Thanks - I appreciate all you comments.

I have not finalised my cycle yet because im still doing some research.

I would like to ask a few things:

1) Do I need to run proviron/adex while im on masteron as I read it has estrogen controling properties?

2) Do I need to run Finasteride with my masteron - my family dont have major hair loss issues?

3) Do I need to use anything while on tren to combat progesterone and prolactin. I was reading on international boards that they use products called dos-tinex cab-aser and pra-mi (split up incase of legal issues arrise but they are 1 word each). Does anyone know what they are or what their equivalent is in SA?

4) I wont run the prop at the end - will masteron be a problem alone? (the test cyp should still be active for the last 2 weeks of the masteron)

5) Do you think I will hold water or feel bloated from the test with the use of proviron and adex? If so, how long will the test cyp take to kick in and then feel bloated?

PS I will do ED shots for the short acting compounds not EOD like I previously said but obviously half the dosage of each prop, tren and masteron.

Thanks in advance

Tippster

STUARTF wrote: Hey Tippster

I've been running tren ace for about three weeks now and it has completely destroyed my cardio. Before I started the tren I was running 15min every day on the treadmill as well as 10min on the elliptical machine. Now I get to 5min and I'm huffing and puffing and completely exhausted. It's not phasing me to much because the tren is making me like a raging beast in the weights department. Its a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
If I were you I would stay away from tren if you are looking to compete in any endurance event.

By the way, I was looking at your cycle and I'm doing one very similar at the moment. This is what mine looks like:
week 1 - 10: Test Prop 100mg EOD
week 1 - 10: Tren Ace 75mg EOD
week 4 - 10: Winstrol 50mg EOD
week 1 - 10: Proviron 75mg ED
Alternating between Clen 160mcg & Heat 4 tabs/day 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off (1 tab betasleep at night)
week 1 - 8: T3/T4 (diotroxin) 40mcg T3, 360mcg T4
week 9 - 12: L-tyrosine
week 4 - 10: HCG 500IU EOD
week 4 - 10: Nolvadex 20mg ED

PCT will follow Doctari's protocol.

Also running Norditropin HGH at 4IU ED

Your cycle has a lot more test. From week 1-3 and 10-12 you are running 1150mg of test altogether if you combine the prop & cyp. That's pretty hardcore IMO. If you are used to high test doses then sweet if not then perhaps reduce the dose a bit or choose one of the two to run throughout. Also the test cyp is not EOD injections, once/twice a week will be fine.
I would also run the masteron for longer at the end of your cycle. Three to four weeks should be enough to see hardning effects of the masteron.

Hope this can help.

Thanks for your reply Stuart.

Can you use nolvadex with tren?

I have decided to not do any cardio during the cycle as I would need to take a break by the time I start.

How has your body changed over the 3 weeks you've been on cycle?

Thanks

Tippster

Tippster wrote: Thanks - I appreciate all you comments.

I have not finalised my cycle yet because im still doing some research.

I would like to ask a few things:

1) Do I need to run proviron/adex while im on masteron as I read it has estrogen controling properties? Yes run them

2) Do I need to run Finasteride with my masteron - my family dont have major hair loss issues?No

3) Do I need to use anything while on tren to combat progesterone and prolactin. I was reading on international boards that they use products called dos-tinex cab-aser and pra-mi (split up incase of legal issues arrise but they are 1 word each). Does anyone know what they are or what their equivalent is in SA? Parlodel or Dostinex is available in SA. Don't think you should use them unless you run into some problems

4) I wont run the prop at the end - will masteron be a problem alone? (the test cyp should still be active for the last 2 weeks of the masteron) Personal choice I guess, but I would use the Prop

5) Do you think I will hold water or feel bloated from the test with the use of proviron and adex? If so, how long will the test cyp take to kick in and then feel bloatedYou will be bloated but not as much as usual.?

PS I will do ED shots for the short acting compounds not EOD like I previously said but obviously half the dosage of each prop, tren and masteron.

Thanks in advance

Tippster

Tippster wrote: Thanks for your reply Stuart.

Can you use nolvadex with tren?

I have decided to not do any cardio during the cycle as I would need to take a break by the time I start.

How has your body changed over the 3 weeks you've been on cycle?

Thanks

Tippster

Hey Tippster

Nolva can cause progesterone/prolactin issues if run with tren (or nandrolones) due to its effect on increasing progestin receptors. It would be better to run a-dex or letro with the tren as they do not have an effect on progestin receptors. Some people, like me, don't seem to suffer from any prolactin/progesterone sides but you probably don't want to take the chance.

My body has changed quite significantly over the last 4 weeks. I've gained 6kg of dry muscle and weighing in at 91kg. I have veins popping out in places that I didn't even know I had veins. My strength is through the roof and my bodyfat has gone down 3% to 6.5%. The only complaint I have is that my fitness has gone for a ball of shit, but I know that's from the tren.

Keep us posted, I'm interested to see how the cycle works for you.

Thanks - Ill keep you posted on what I decide to do.

Do you think Ill need Parlodel or Dostinex on hand? - I'll be running adex/proviron and I have letro incase I need it.

How are your calories compared to your maintenance?

If you're prone to prolactin side effects then Parlodel or Dostinex will be necessary. You're not running huge quantities of tren so I really don't think you'll have any major prolactin sides anyway. It probably won't do any harm having them on hand in case but this is entirely up to you.

At the moment I'm on keto and I'm keeping my calories equal to my BMI. Don't specifically want to build and more concerned about keeping lean. I find that if I go below my BMI, I get to hungry.

Im probably also going to stay equalt to my maintenance calories.

Ill keep dostinex on hand if I need it - read about the two and dostinex seems the better choice?

What is the longest you can run masteron for ? Can it be run for the full 12 weeks? if I wanted to do so?

Thanks

Masteron is a relatively safe steroid and can be run for long periods even at high doses. Masteron prop is usually used for shorter cycles due to it's fast acting short ester. Masteron enan will kick in after 2-3 weeks and is usually used for longer cycles that are typically over 12 weeks.
Which one are you using? Prop or Enan? there is also a blend of the two.

I've actually just started Masteron Prop and I'm going to run it to the end of my cycle.

I would like to use masteron prop.

How are you enjoying the masteron prop Stuart? Do you feel the effects after a week or so on the masteron?

Do I need to run T3 at a maintenance dose while on tren?

Thanks

Hey,

I have finalised my cycle and I would like your input and comments please.

I would like to buy my cycle before I pay for my holiday :laugh:

I initially had equi at 175mg EOD for 13 weeks but I havent run tren nor masteron before so I took it out.

I have attached it below - I hope it works.

Thanks


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I didnt come right but Ill set it out below:

Week 1-3 : 320mg Supertest EOD
Week 4-13 : 250mg Test Cyp EOD
Week 1-6 : 80mg Tren Ace EOD
Week 10-15 : 100mg Mast Prop EOD

Week 16 : 100mg Clomid ED
Week 16-18 : 500iu HCG EOD
Week 17-20 : 20mg Nolvadex ED
Week 17-20 : 20mg Aromasin ED

As started above I am going to use adex and proviron but uncertain of when to add these in. Financial reasons aside, should I run them both from day 1 till pct?

Thanks

Hi Tippster,

My cycle looks pretty much like yours but I'm taking 40mg Proviron ED and also .75mg Letro ED, I find any less Letro and my nipples gets sore. I'm starting Winny at 50mg ED for the next four weeks then I'm hitting PCT. Its a nice cycle and the length is just fine. The only change that I'll make next time is to increase my Tren and Mast because I think at my weight the dosage is too low. On Tren my strength increased nicely and cardio is so so but I never do cardio so I wouldn't notice the difference.

Go for it bud.

Thanks for the reply.

If I remember - your tren dose was 40mg EOD and mast 50mg EOD and I think we weigh roughly the same so my doses are about right by your exp.

Ill prob run the proviron and adex from day 1 throughout with letro incase I need it - Im worried as this will be the first time running about 1g test per week.

Let us know how the rest of your cycle goes bud!

That's correct yeah but that comes from lending your ears out and not listening to your gut. Tren 40mg EOD and Mast 75mg EOD. Oh yeah I've been running 25mcg T3 ED during the Tren and it seems to do the trick.

Hi guys

I need some help with my cycle it consist of tren,equi and test e.I wil be using proviron through out my cycle to combat sides from test n I would of used nolvadex as an anti e bt I haven't learn that with tren o deca its a no no so that brings me to pct many guys said novladex hcg n colmid I'm stil not sure how to go about doin pct cause I have included a 19 nor in my cyle and I dnt knw if it will be safe to use nolva in pct.

Hcg
Some guys are using this through out
Cycles and some using it two weeks before pct and others for pct I'm very confused about this.

Tren
I'm going to be using tren for the first four weeks then switch over to equi I'm going to climax and anticlimax tren then climax and anticlimax equi my cycle is 8weeks then wait 3weeks then pct so I will be with out tren for 7weeks can I use nolva in my pct?


Pct
Can someone give me advice on how to structure my pct


Cycle
Week 1 -4 tren e
Week 4 -8equi
Week 1 -8 test e

Please feel free to comment n advice on the way forward thaxz

shaun g wrote: Hi guys

I need some help with my cycle it consist of tren,equi and test e.I wil be using proviron through out my cycle to combat sides from test n I would of used nolvadex as an anti e bt I haven't learn that with tren o deca its a no no so that brings me to pct many guys said novladex hcg n colmid I'm stil not sure how to go about doin pct cause I have included a 19 nor in my cyle and I dnt knw if it will be safe to use nolva in pct.

Hcg
Some guys are using this through out
Cycles and some using it two weeks before pct and others for pct I'm very confused about this.

Tren
I'm going to be using tren for the first four weeks then switch over to equi I'm going to climax and anticlimax tren then climax and anticlimax equi my cycle is 8weeks then wait 3weeks then pct so I will be with out tren for 7weeks can I use nolva in my pct?


Pct
Can someone give me advice on how to structure my pct


Cycle
Week 1 -4 tren e
Week 4 -8equi
Week 1 -8 test e

Please feel free to comment n advice on the way forward thaxz

Hey bud

1. Start ur own thread (part of rules)
2. EQ for 4 weeks = waste
3. Tren e for 4 weeks = waste

Rethink ur cycle, cause that one is a no no.

Shot bru
What would you do if you had 5amps tren n 5 amps equi and 10ml test e? And would you use nolva for pct how would you structure your pct?what your view on hcg and how do you use it if you do

shaun g wrote: Shot bru
What would you do if you had 5amps tren n 5 amps equi and 10ml test e? And would you use nolva for pct how would you structure your pct?what your view on hcg and how do you use it if you do

5 amps or vials?
Looks like 1/3 cycle get more
Doctari's PCT - nothing less. I'm sure you've seen these words before?

Hi jack its 1ml vials so I do av 10mls of an anabolic just that its 5ml tren n 5ml equi n 10ml test.doctari pct can u forward it to me please

Shaun G u starting to ask very stupid questions.

Do urself a favor and go read the sticky's in the pct thread and then the sticky's on the cycle thread BEFORE asking anymore questions.