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23 Apr 2014 21:32 #166480 by FIllet
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Bud you have the insulin needles so forget ml. Stick 5 units in your gut, store vial in fridge

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23 Apr 2014 21:37 #166481 by Nate40
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So why did this oke sell me 6 ampoules. Is an ampoule not a vial? standard? So thats 60 weeks supply

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23 Apr 2014 21:39 - 23 Apr 2014 21:43 #166482 by Nate40
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NO PRICES.

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23 Apr 2014 21:41 #166483 by FIllet
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LOL, you have enough for three cycles...
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23 Apr 2014 21:42 #166484 by Oupa
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CycloTrpTyr wrote:

Nate40 wrote: Not even close sorry man. Totally lost on this one.
Need to sleep on this. For the moment I drop the pregnyl.
Thanks for trying guys


Nate, I think you've worked yourself up into a tizz here. Work through it with me.

1 vial of Pregnyl contains 5000 International Units (IU) of HCG.

You add 1ml of water to enable the stuff to be injected.

Therefore you have 5000IU of HCG per 1ml of water.

Are you still with me.

if there is 5000IU/1ml, then it follows that
there is: 2500IU/0.5ml (divide both sides by 2)
1000IU/0.2ml (divide both sides by 5)
500IU/0.1ml (divide both sides by 10)

Does this make sense? If you have 5000IU per ml then you also have 500IU per 0.1ml
You want 250IU twice a week which is 500IU per week.

Therefore you want to inject 0.1ml per week in total. (500IU per 0.1ml)

Now forget units.

You split this up in two as you inject twice per week. Thus you have 0.1ml divided by 2 which gives you 0.05ml

Therefore you have to inject 0.05ml twice a week.

On an insulin syringe the volume (ml is designated as units. i.e. 1 Unit = 0.01ml. 10 Units = 0.1ml etc)

Therefore 0.05ml = 5 Units.


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23 Apr 2014 21:56 #166489 by Nate40
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@CycloTrpTyr
@Fillet
@Oupa

Thank you all three for your extreme patience. Will sleep on all this info and get my head around it.

Lots of Good karma your way guys.

Nate

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25 Apr 2014 20:28 #166626 by Cyclo
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Hi Nate40.

Just popping in to see if you've mulled over and internalised the Pregnyl dosage regimen.

Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.

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27 Apr 2014 11:45 #166681 by Nate40
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Hi Cyclo,

Thank you yes. Have given it a lot of thought and started with the pregnyl again yesterday actually.
I went to the pharmacist and got proper insulin injections with the International Unit measurements on it which is I think what was totally confusing me.
It is now easy to measure up to 5 units and I don't feel the needle even go in.

The deca has definitely kicked in on my cycle, and I noticed that over the last week that I did not take the pregnyl there was some shrinkage. Is one of the main purposes of the pregnyl to manage size of testicles and volume of ejaculate in the sac?

Thanks again for all your help Cyclo.

Nate

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27 Apr 2014 12:20 #166690 by Nate40
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Oh and dudes talking about the deca kicking in.
Wow it feels great but my mood has taken a turn for the not so good. My patience level is history at the moment. Any calming advice?

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27 Apr 2014 15:49 #166715 by T-Style
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Stop thinking about it and try harder to keep it under control. Train harder or go for a run. Just my 5c

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27 Apr 2014 17:01 #166722 by Nate40
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Thanks T-Style

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27 Apr 2014 20:46 #166743 by T-Style
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Don't worry I was on the same boat. I'm not a agro guy but I do flip at little things. With the gear I had to start controlling it more because my two little boys started catching the short end. So what I did was just go outside and throw ball for my dogs for 15 mins. Lol worked for me.

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27 Apr 2014 23:38 #166744 by Muscleaddict
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Nate40 wrote: Oh and dudes talking about the deca kicking in.
Wow it feels great but my mood has taken a turn for the not so good. My patience level is history at the moment. Any calming advice?


Deca lowers dopamine levels in the brain and also disrupts normal serotonin function so that can cause all sorts of mood changes. Since dopamine is like your major reward hormone that makes you feel good when you achieve something this can make you feel very demotivated, like nothing brings you pleasure except lifting weights. I've always noticed I feel more lazy on nandrolone but cabaser helps with that a lot since it's a dopamine agonist.
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29 Apr 2014 09:18 #166762 by Nate40
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Thanks MA.
Glad to hear the cabaser is a dopamine agonist.
My guy couldn't get more cabaser for me for some reason but am taking dostinex. That also a dopamine agonist?
By the way I had to pay through my ass for the dostinex. Crazy.

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29 Apr 2014 09:41 #166772 by Nate40
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I'm usually a very chilled guy too but damn dude this deca has a bite to it.
Took your advice and threw the ball to the dog a bit outside after I pinned yesterday. It actually helped. Just wanted to say thanks for the tip.

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29 Apr 2014 15:15 #166818 by Nate40
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@Cyclo

Thank you yes. Have given it a lot of thought and started with the pregnyl again yesterday actually.
I went to the pharmacist and got proper insulin injections with the International Unit measurements on it which is I think what was totally confusing me.
It is now easy to measure up to 5 units and I don't feel the needle even go in.

The deca has definitely kicked in on my cycle, and I noticed that over the last week that I did not take the pregnyl there was some shrinkage. Is one of the main purposes of the pregnyl to manage size of testicles and volume of ejaculate in the sac?

Thanks again for all your help Cyclo.

Nate

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29 Apr 2014 15:58 #166822 by Nate40
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Hi guys,

Update on my stats - Tuesday 29 April 2014:
Over 6 weeks into 15-week cycle and my progress has slowed since the initial rapid increases, but I think this is because my fat percentage is down. Shirts feeling much tighter and my strength is up 10-fold since I started.

Weight - 88,6kg (Up from 82,4kg) +6,2kg since cycle started
Chest - 113cm (Up from 105cm) +8cm
Bicep - 40cm (Up from 35cm) +5cm
Waist - 86cm (Down from 91cm) -5cm
Upper Leg - 56cm (Up from 54cm) +2cm
Calf - 37cm (Up from 35cm) +2cm
Body Fat Percentage: 11,9% (Down from 14,5%) - Down 2,6%



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29 Apr 2014 17:17 #166826 by CHAPEL
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Who and how did you measure your bf%? I hate to burst your bubble but even with water I doubt you are under 12.

Apart from that well done so far.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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29 Apr 2014 18:11 #166832 by Nate40
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Thanks Chapel.
I went to the nurse at the local pharmacy. She does my measurements too.

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29 Apr 2014 18:15 #166834 by Rhino
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Ye nice work so far Bud. I'd also put you in the 14/15 percent range

Go big or go home...
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29 Apr 2014 18:19 #166835 by Nate40
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Thanks Rhino,

I maybe need to get some of those calipers. Not sure if these old nurses know what they doing anyway.

I must admit I was a bit surprised by the body fat percentage too. Especially since I am feeling a little bloated from the deca and the fact that I have not been taking the Anavar this month.

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29 Apr 2014 18:39 #166841 by Oupa
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Good work Nate. Estimate around 15 & bodyfat

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29 Apr 2014 19:36 #166846 by Nate40
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Thanks Oupa. I appreciate that.
Going as hard as I can at the gym, six days a week.
Wish I could push more but its one day at a time as you said.

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29 Apr 2014 21:40 #166867 by FIllet
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+1 bud
Most 20yr olds cant get their smelly asses off the couch.
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30 Apr 2014 08:44 #166890 by Nate40
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Thanks Fillet.
Been working hard thanks to guys like you giving me the right advice.
No blowing smoke dude when I say I really appreciate it.

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