Sust4fifty, Cyp200, DBol cycle

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30 Apr 2016 11:22 #198587 by PraetorXII
Sust4fifty, Cyp200, DBol cycle was created by PraetorXII
Would appreciate some advise on this cycle.
Its based on the beginner bulk cylce 11.

Week 1 to 4 - Dbol 40mg ED
Week 1 to 11 - Sust4fifty 225ml with Testaplex c200 100ml every 5days.

Will follow same PCT as sample. Arimidex on hand for sides. PCT will start on day 124? Do you think there is need for bridge because of Sust?

Why sust would say because I prefer it cause of size. And the C200 is the only decent Test I trust, could not get PGW.

1.95cm 110kg 11% BF

Will follow Max-Ot Based PPL and my diet is roughly planned 500g Protein, 200g Carbs and 90g fat. Aiming at 4500cal a day. My work is intense 8hour physical work.

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30 Apr 2016 22:41 #198596 by Oupa
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Woef

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01 May 2016 09:09 #198600 by Rooi Bul 86
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01 May 2016 10:41 #198601 by Eidolon
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Sjoe! Gaan jy daai 325ml met 'n tuinslang ingooi? :blink:

I'd just bang 1ml of the 4fidy EOD.

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01 May 2016 14:21 #198606 by Fakey_AK
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Oupa wrote: Woef


Bwahahahaha :lol: day just made.. Thanks Oupa

P.s. 500g protein is overkill, way overkill..

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01 May 2016 18:52 #198615 by Rooi Bul 86
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If the C200 is the only Test you trust why did you get the Sust4fifty?

Did you mean mg instead of ml?

Reconsider running Testosterone Cypionate and Sustanon 450 together...

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01 May 2016 20:09 #198621 by Fakey_AK
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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: If the C200 is the only Test you trust why did you get the Sust4fifty?

Did you mean mg instead of ml?

Reconsider running Testosterone Cypionate and Sustanon 450 together...


I agree with rooi bull, run one or the other.

I personally dont trust these high dosed cocktails. From personally research and web scanning, an use i find it not to be trusted. (FMPOV)

This is the break down of sust4fifty for those interested.

75mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
75mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpionate
100mg/ml Testosterone isocaproate
100mg/ml Testosterone Decanoate
100mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate

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02 May 2016 10:45 #198634 by PraetorXII
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Yeah sorry typo mg not ml, thanks guys gonna drop the c200 and get more sust450 and go 1ml eod. Shot is pct day 124 correct if I run sust?

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02 May 2016 10:45 #198635 by PraetorXII
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Yeah sorry typo mg not ml, thanks guys gonna drop the c200 and get more sust450 and go 1ml eod. Shot

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02 May 2016 14:11 #198644 by Eidolon
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If you meant mg rather than ml, and wanted to pin 325mg E5D, rather stick with 1.5ml of the cyp E5D.

Is this your first cycle? Frequent shots can be a challenge, and blends with that much hormone in it normally hurts like hell.
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02 May 2016 15:20 #198646 by PraetorXII
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Thanks no not the first time, have done 1ml sust with 23g in vent before, only hurts for the first day but hey you gotta take it like a man.

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03 May 2016 07:45 #198662 by Eidolon
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Cool. Just remember this is not pharma sust, and dosed silly high.

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03 May 2016 08:53 #198664 by PraetorXII
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At least you dont have to dose more than 1ml right? Whats this m/w/f thing? And do you think I need to bridge with something until I hit the PCT cause its far.

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03 May 2016 12:53 #198671 by Eidolon
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1ml is nothing boet. There's a false logic in using highly dosed products, not least because they're probably either underdosed or going to leave you with debilitating pip.

Read the articles - no offense, but it's clear you need to. Then come back and ask some informed questions. Good luck! B)
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04 May 2016 02:09 #198697 by Eidolon
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Why are you giving up? Just get a traditionally dosed blend or single ester.

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04 May 2016 02:11 #198698 by PraetorXII
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will do

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06 May 2016 21:47 #198831 by PraetorXII
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Yeah so I got me some Legit PGW Test Cyp and now I can hit it, I will follow the sample cycle to the day and see what happends... any advise or criticism will be appreciated greatly.

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07 May 2016 01:17 #198835 by Eidolon
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Great call. Good luck boera.

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07 May 2016 01:52 #198837 by PraetorXII
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What do you recon I should to with the c200 and sus450? Can I incorporate it into the cycle or do I feed my horse with it?

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07 May 2016 03:35 #198838 by Eidolon
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Nothing wrong with including it. What dosage and cycle length do you have in mind?

I'd start off with the s450 - .5ml will serve as a bit of a frontload/kicker and get you the same cyp as 1ml of the c200 or .8ml of the pgw. If the PIP becomes unbearably, you can always switch to the straight cyps. So work it out from there

Ideally you want to pin sust blends EOD (opinions differ) but the high dosage makes it a bit tricky unless you just take a drop every time :lol: It's all test in the end, but you'd be better off getting stable hormone levels, which can be difficult with a mix of esters.

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07 May 2016 03:53 #198839 by PraetorXII
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Think it would be better keeping to sample cycle and maybe jab .5ml s450 in separate syringe in a different place each time with test so I can keep a stable and consistent hormone level and pull it through the 77days, not really worried about pip but I'll have to see how my body reacts and how much pain I can take from s450. Would do you think Eidolon?

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07 May 2016 04:52 #198840 by Eidolon
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It doesn't really matter where the test depots are, or if you mix things - it's about the cumulative release. Sust also contains cyp, and is just a test mix. Pinning in different spots will do nothing for hormone stability.

Unless I misunderstood you?

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07 May 2016 05:00 #198841 by PraetorXII
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Yes actually meant the stability as keeping the injection time constant with the pgw cyp and not on different days that it could through things off? Is it possible?

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07 May 2016 05:40 - 07 May 2016 05:42 #198842 by Eidolon
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The test cyp releases at the same rate, so whether you pin cyp ED or E5D, you will eventually have roughly the same amount of oil in your muscles. So yes, keep the timing constant.

What I meant was:

Week 1-4: 1ml of the s450 (that's 300mg of long esters)
Week 5-xx: .8ml/1ml PGW cyp/c200 (200mg cyp)

So at least you've got the long esters relatively constant for the duration of your cycle, and you don't have to bin any gear. Plus you're frontloading and got the props as kickers.

Obviously increase the dosage to suit your goal. You could do the s450 EOD and the cyp M/F, for instance.

Google roidcalc for an illustration of how the hormones release and stabilise with more frequent pinning.
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