Which is the Ideal roid?

I am put in a spin about chice!
I am not sure what to use now, I am looking for something for cutting and weight loss, but that will exit my system fast,

I know this is not everyone's concern but, any advice would be great.

I am considering anavar or ECA!!

Can any one advise?????

Low doses of test can also help with fat loss... TESTOSTERONE SUSPENSION leaves the body in about 3 day which is why you have to inject so frequently.

Here's a detection time chart it might help you in your search...

www.steroid.com/detect.php

thanx will look into it

Also remember... Even if you take very low doses of ANY steroid you need to still run post cycle therapy, no mater how low the dose is.

I am taking HEAT ECA Stack at the moment it seems quite effective at fat loss but I have no idea how long it takes to exit the body I cant Imagine it is very long.

Ok now you lost me!!!!!!!

Post cycle?

Google it "PCT"

To start your body's natural production of test after the roids have shut your system down.

cool thanx

yup, do a little more research Wolf Bite.

you havnt even given us your stats with regard 2 age, years training, diet etc. so we cant reallly help u base a decision without that

I am 28
1.75 tall
and am 93kg
my body fat is about 20 - 21 %
and I have been training for about 2 years. lost some weight and have gained some muscle.

I am going into firefighting and need to loose more weight and soon.

If i where you i would leave the roids for now and maybe run a few ECA cycles to get your body fat down to around 15 - 16 % then do a cutting steroid cycle maybe... Winny/Primo/Clen

Like i said i am taking HEAT ECA Stack at the moment and it seems to be quite good... If you cant get hold of some try asking around on the forums someone might know a source in your area...

But by the looks of things you do need to do a bit more research before taking any substances...

Also clean your diet up and you should be able to loose quite a few kgs just from that....

primo is a highly priced product and for the same price i would rather do more of other substances to be honest...

look if u looking to cut down there are 3 ways to do it,chop off limbs,diet,and diet cardio and cutting compounds.

the first option is instant wieght loss and u might be able to claim disability but wouldnt go for that...

dieting on its own will work but the results may become sluggish in the end...

now diet,cardio and cutting compounds is the best way to maintain muscle...

if u are looking for a decent fat burning stack i would suggest 2 weeks clen,2 weeks heat or an eca of sorts.do that for 12 weeks with a diet and i am sure u will be do well,throw in a nice little lean mass stack at the end of something such as anavar,winstrol,test prop for 6weeks and u will be smiling,substances such as anavar and winstrol have been known for burning fat on the abdominal area. but when using winstrol your test levels drop so therefore the adding in of test is essential. seeing u are using substances that dont cause water retention u want to go with a test that doesnt cause water retention such as prop. longer ester tests will eventually aromatize and cause a watery bloat. a pct after that cycle will be essential but the results should be worth it... i can help u with your cutting diet but will have to charge u for it... if u are interested email me at EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED

thanx. I do weights 3 timesa week and cardio for about 10 hours a week.so I do alot of cardio (well I think so atleast)

I am seeing a Dietitian at the moment and she is good. I am not sure but will mail you any way.

ummm well thats your problem bro, first of all u need to cut that cardio right back and concentrate on putting on more muscle...sorry to say that u might actually be over training with that amount of cardio on a calorie reduced diet... you should concentrate on weight training more.

look at your body as an engine.whats gonna be burn more fuel a 1.3l or a 4.8l v8 engine? thats how your body works. if u look at taking 40l of fuel and running a 1.3l engine at u are gonna get 500kms on it. if u are a v8 and u are using 40l of fuel you are only gonna get 250km. so look it this way,the more muscle u put on the more fuel u are going to burn and if are dieting your body is going to need to get the fuel from your stored energy sources which is body fat.

you dietitian,now is she a sports nutritionist or just a dietitian cos if she isnt a sports nutritionist she is gonna put u on 1g protein per kg of body weight and tell u to eat 6 fruit and veg which is far from a good idea in my mind..

Ok, you have convinced me. I have sent you a e-mail.

djeasye wrote:

look at your body as an engine.whats gonna be burn more fuel a 1.3l or a 4.8l v8 engine? thats how your body works.

Nice way of putting it

Get your diet etc in line, have a chat with the DJ and then once you have dropped enough Body fat look at anabolics. Stay away from gear and look at fat burners etc till you have reached your goal around BF.

I have spoken to so many people about this and almost everyone in telling me to combine var with winstrol and that will be best for what I want.
it will apparently help reduse my % and help me gane sum.

I am married to a chef and she know's alot about food, and not just the Nice kind but the healthy kind to. and I think combined with a good diet and some Juice many people think this is the way to go.

No one has told me not to use, and I know everyone on this form is using something.
So what do you think Netro, Do i go ahead or not?????????

wolf bite i suggest u run your anabolics for the last 6 weeks of your cutting phase,as u would've dropped a decent amount of body fat and will be able to notice the gains your are going to get because of the lower level of body fat... winstrol will drop your natural test levels so i would add in a testosterone base with your winny and var...it will also help with the fat burning process.

It's up to you what you want to take and you know your body best... But if I where you with a BF% of around 20% I would run maybe 2 fat burning cycles with ECA on a low carb diet. If you do a cycle of roids now you might lose a bit of fat and gain a bit of muscle but your not really going to see the results. Trust me if you drop a bit of the fat first then do any steroid course you will see the results which is much better for your motivation to keep the weight off. It will only take you 10 weeks to get down to 14% or 15% BF if you eat right and train properly while using either clen or and eca stack. but its up to you.

Ja, drop the body fat first, you will not notice gains under the fat. get the BF to a decent level and then look at the gear.

agreed with faulty boy on this one,u can loose a kg a week and thats a decent amount of fat to burn,your first 1 or two might be a bit more seeing that u will drop water weight but if u can train heavy and do some cardio in 6 weeks u should be at a decent level to start a cycle to burn some decent fat and look pretty decent...i would say not so much low carbs to start with more along the lines of low calories i would stick u on a 40% protein,40% carbs and 20% diet for 3 days and then up your calories for 1 day,this is called carb/calorie cycling or zig zag dieting..this is very effective way to diet,if u look at what skyth did in the contest prep section its a perfect example as to how good calorie cycling works with a decent weight training program as well as some cardio...

My opinion is too cut the body fat right down,
That is what I am currently doing, get some clen from the link at the top of the page.

I have tried most "fat burners" over the years but let me tell you that this stuff is the real deal, Get DJ to help you out with a good diet first, once that is in order then take the clen. I started on Sunday and have lost 1.5 kg. My wife is astounded at the results from this stuff.
But remember, everything bust be done correctly, diet, supplements, workouts and rest.
Any question or problems ask the guys here, they know their stuff.

cycling fat burners is also a good plan,as your body becomes receptive to the chemicals u use,esp clen. if u are not cycling clen i would suggest running ketofin to upgrade your receptors and that way u can run clen through out..but i personally like,2 weeks heat and 2 weeks t3 action(an ephadra and albutrol cocktail) and it has brilliant results

Thanx guys, lots to consider. Can I run Clen with VAR? and i was given a low carb cycle diet this morning so going to give that a shot.
I must be honist i am getting desperate to loose these love handles. bugging me big time.

I was considaring running a 8 week on and 8 week off cycle?
as for bulking, I am naturaly big, and it shows easy it is the cut that I am after.

So I will take all advice to heart!!!
thanx again