Tbol

Hey guys,I'm new here

I've decided to try Tbol,I haven't used any sort of orals before or any steroid..I'm concerned about the suppressing and shut down on the bodies natural testorone.I'm going to use 50mg for 4 weeks,will I require pct or not?,will it shut me down with such a short cycle?

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Cam007 wrote: Hey guys,I'm new here

I've decided to try Tbol,I haven't used any sort of orals before or any steroid..I'm concerned about the suppressing and shut down on the bodies natural testorone.I'm going to use 50mg for 4 weeks,will I require pct or not?,will it shut me down with such a short cycle?

Orals are steroids mate.

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Cam007 wrote: Hey guys,I'm new here

I've decided to try Tbol,I haven't used any sort of orals before or any steroid..I'm concerned about the suppressing and shut down on the bodies natural testorone.I'm going to use 50mg for 4 weeks,will I require pct or not?,will it shut me down with such a short cycle?

You have much to learn before you ready to use any for of anabolics.

Furk wrote: Orals are steroids mate.

Just like creatine :whistle:

Cam007 wrote: Hey guys,I'm new here

I've decided to try Tbol,I haven't used any sort of orals before or any steroid..I'm concerned about the suppressing and shut down on the bodies natural testorone.I'm going to use 50mg for 4 weeks,will I require pct or not?,will it shut me down with such a short cycle?

How about giving us s run down what tbols are, what it does, whats the side effects and so on :dry:

Cam007 wrote: Hey guys,I'm new here

I've decided to try Tbol,I haven't used any sort of orals before or any steroid..I'm concerned about the suppressing and shut down on the bodies natural testorone.I'm going to use 50mg for 4 weeks,will I require pct or not?,will it shut me down with such a short cycle?

Pct needed yes

I think this one is going to be better off with a 4week Ostarine at 15mg everyday cycle...

What he's actually trying to say is that he's already bought the stuff because some gorilla at gym says it's the stuff that's going to get him on the podium at Mr Olympia next year.
What said gorilla forgot to tell him is how to use it because he didn't have a fkn clue but just wanted to sell stuff.

I haven't bought it yet,no dreams about The Olympia..

Gorilla says take 50mg a day for 4 weeks,so I just needed advice and information before I purchase.

Cyclo wrote: What he's actually trying to say is that he's already bought the stuff because some gorilla at gym says it's the stuff that's going to get him on the podium at Mr Olympia next year.
What said gorilla forgot to tell him is how to use it because he didn't have a fkn clue but just wanted to sell stuff.

I'm going to take this opportunity to talk about something serious regarding demand and supply. I'm not trying to blow my own horn, most of you fellas know I don't have a monstrous physique. I have nothing to prove.

I get asked often (average once every two days), for gear or other banned substances. I've denied every person so far. Not because I genuinely can't get hold of it, but because what they ask for and how they do it. Here is the problem, someone asks me Dianabol. Straight. Not for "anabolic steroids" or "looking to do a cycle". If I were a money hungry dealer I could easily have a small customer basis right now, supplying exactly what's asked. My point is this, I don't think it's always the dealers that encourage (push) things like a D-bol only cycle just to make a fast buck. The uninformed buyers don't know shit about AAS, and go searching for a single product that they heard about.

Ideally the buyers need to be informed what they are doing (seeking to do) is wrong and harmful. But as a person in a professional working environment I can't give everyone a lecture. So I can understand how dealers can easily sell recklessly, because they get asked for reckless requests. All that they are doing is supplying for a demand.

Disclaimer: This post is not about dealer practices or defending asshole dealers.

Cam007 wrote: I haven't bought it yet,no dreams about The Olympia..

Gorilla says take 50mg a day for 4 weeks,so I just needed advice and information before I purchase.

Thanks for being honest mate. Take a look here:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1
Substitute D-bol with T-bol and you have a safe cycle. Plan it out properly including PCT. We would be more than happy to help if you take your safety seriously.

Cam007 wrote: I haven't bought it yet,no dreams about The Olympia..

Gorilla says take 50mg a day for 4 weeks,so I just needed advice and information before I purchase.

Kek, ok your gorilla is an asshole. If you are dead set on oral only, you can give this one a shot:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/sample-cycles/21-cycle-2

With the topic of Tbol going on, I've got a quick question that's been bothering me for some time and I would greatly appreciate any light on the subject:

If I ingest something like Turinabol [4-Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone] without a test-base, would my body be messed-up once suppression starts and my indigenous production of testosterone stops?

If I were to get an external source of test, then all the functions of my body that requires testosterone can continue and I'd basically still feel healthy/awesome, correct?
But if I take something like T-bol alone and my body's natural testosterone gets suppressed, isn't the Turinabol sort-of replacing your testosterone? Like, isn't it a derivative of testosterone and basically now becomes your external source of a 'form' of test, albeit not pure testosterone?

Basically, how would 100mg of Turinabol differ from 100mg of test [aside from the important liver-toxicity]?

I've noticed the Anavar+Proviron cycle and that's what got me thinking about this.

Testosterone has a Anabolic to Androgenic ratio of 100:100 Tbol is greater than 100 Anabolic but only slightly more than 1 Androgenic and most experienced guys would agree that miligram for miligram Tbol is not going to pack on size and strength like testosterone is. So the problem with using a testosterone derivative like Tbol as a exogenous source of testosterone lies in its lack of being androgenic. What testosterone does for us like keeping libido up and body fat low and midsection tight that is al due to its androgenic nature not its Anabolic nature.

Proviron in the Anavar and Proviron cycle is used as the androgen to keep libido cranking and you feeling spot on.

Hope this makes sense?

Dude... That makes so much sense, holy crap! This helped me a lot. Thanks for the reply, I salute thee!

No problems.

If you are set on an oral only cycle and want to do Tbol you can do Tbol and Proviron but it is not optimal best would be low dose test as your base and Tbol or whatever oral you choose.

But like I said Tbol and Proviron could work. Proviron no less than 50mg a day but 75mg would be preferred and Tbol no less than 40mg but 60-80mg would be optimal.

Thanks guys for all the advice,I appreciate it

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: No problems.

If you are set on an oral only cycle and want to do Tbol you can do Tbol and Proviron but it is not optimal best would be low dose test as your base and Tbol or whatever oral you choose.

But like I said Tbol and Proviron could work. Proviron no less than 50mg a day but 75mg would be preferred and Tbol no less than 40mg but 60-80mg would be optimal.

just a thought... if you were after a performance improvement rather than size, would this tbol and proviron cycle be worthwhile?

as i mentioned in another thread i have a friend (quite a few actually) who play soccer and are always looking for that extra performance. by what i read tbol should be perfect for performance enhancement without the increase in size

Yes but so is Anavar and Proviron.

As you know I am a big guy 1.68cm short but 107kg with 14-17% Body Fat and I run and cycle a lot I found for endurance and performance Anavar tops Turinabol any day of the week. On Anavar I notice better endurance and my breathing and lung capacity and fitness all improve. Tbol puts more weight and size on me than Anavar but Tbol pumps get annoying when after performance but Anavar also increases strength. So for your soccer or athlete friends I would go Anavar and Proviron and GW 501516. On that stack when I go for my 18k runs my fiance is on the mountain bike and she is like just slow down you are scaring me

thanks RB answered everything i asked.
I haven't used tbol, but have used anavar. the pumps from anavar were crazy and i couldn't run hence me thinking tbol would be better. in general i don't read about tbol pumps being that bad.

i think oupa also suggested anavar for sports in another thread. i guess anavar is the way to go then.
oh and i defintely want to try GW! think i will go on GW until i hit my next cycle closer to the end of the year

For sports start on Anavar 40mg per day keep it there and if you are used to the pups and they become less annoying usually around week two then up to 60mg but I never go beyond 40mg not with Tbol or Anavar and always had decent results

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: If you are set on an oral only cycle and want to do Tbol you can do Tbol and Proviron but it is not optimal best would be low dose test as your base and Tbol or whatever oral you choose.

To be honest, I was considering something like an oral-only, but now with what you've said it actually makes sense that a test-based approach would be most sensible. I'm not really afraid of needles - but in my head it's a much bigger thing than simply swallowing a tablet. Kinda scared of screwing it up, gauges, aspiring, etc .

Cool man, but thanks for the help. Stay well

dude once you pin yourself once you'll be over that fear... then its as easy as swallowing a pill.. you in and out of the bathroom in a couple of minutes