Anavar plus Cardarine(Cardarine) for CrossFit

I am wanting to use both Anavar and Cardarine.

I train at a CrossFit gym, so I want to improve on my strength and cardio while also improving my physique. I have chosen these two substances as I believe these two substances can best help me to achieve those goals.

This will be my first time using, so excuse me if I come across naive or misinformed.

I would add in a bit of test into that cycle depending of your stats. Give a bit more info about your stats.

well, it is dependent on what you are battling with. Are you struggling with strength or recovery? what is your weight, and caloric intake? what is your body fat %?

My stats are:

Bench- 105kg
Squat- 120kg
Deadlift- 170kg
5km run- 28 minutes
Clean- 100kg

I am wanting to improve my cardio and strength.
Height is 174cm
Weight is 81kg

so I don't need or want to gain weight.
I would say im struggling more with muscle fatigue during the workouts (more of the cardio side).

What us your daily diet like and how often are you Training? If you are struggling with endurance you need to push red blood cells count up, so a baseline trt does of test with some tbol pre workout and anavar post workout would probably be your best bet with your diet getting in check you will get to where you need go go.

Bravo 1 wrote: Squat- 120kg

And that's why you don't skip leg day

Seriously though, you should be squatting a lot more given the other weights you're lifting.
Are you carrying old injuries?

Ive got no prior injuries, so I haven't got any excuse for the weight being so low.

Ill definitely being putting in extra work with my legs, especially after that comment. hahaha

I train 5 days a week for about an hour and I often run twice a week too.

My diet is consistent, but I do eat four meals a day ( 1- is oats, 2- muesli and yogurt, 3 and 4- will often be dinner which various everyday and every week.)
My biggest weakness is probably the snacks before bed.

Thanks for the help

You nutrition is the downfall as to why you performance is kak.

:lol:

Why are you doing CrossFit?

Each to their own when it comes to training, body building, crossfit and powerlifting strong man. End of the day, people are being active. Even those assholes on the road cycling, that's personal preference. The issue is your nutrition is lacking.

Empire wrote: Each to their own when it comes to training, body building, crossfit and powerlifting strong man. End of the day, people are being active. Even those assholes on the road cycling, that's personal preference. The issue is your nutrition is lacking.

Well if the goal is aesthetic or even performance, we can easily give him a better training plan.

CrossFit + drugs can be replicated with nutrition and a proper training program ie. proper form.

Look you not going to like this. But majority of recreational crossfitters look better than recreational bodybuilders. Remember these guys go to classes and are subjected to programming, although not the greatest application, and are taught progressive progress with moderate to heavy weights. They do that in a group setting which is incredibly motivating, and they are kinda of overseen by someone with some form of training intelligence.

Most gym rats don't train correctly, train hard enough, with someone overseeing them for long enough periods of time to actually want to push harder and farther they did before.

I love the concept of cross fit..I hate the application due to incorrect programming, people having minimal rests between Olympic lifts under high amounts of fatigue due to the cardio work in-between heavy lifting and majority going to heavy to cause big injuries.

You may not like hearing that but it's kinda true.

Empire wrote: Look you not going to like this. But majority of recreational crossfitters look better than recreational bodybuilders. Remember these guys go to classes and are subjected to programming, although not the greatest application, and are taught progressive progress with moderate to heavy weights. They do that in a group setting which is incredibly motivating, and they are kinda of overseen by someone with some form of training intelligence.

Most gym rats don't train correctly, train hard enough, with someone overseeing them for long enough periods of time to actually want to push harder and farther they did before.

I love the concept of cross fit..I hate the application due to incorrect programming, people having minimal rests between Olympic lifts under high amounts of fatigue due to the cardio work in-between heavy lifting and majority going to heavy to cause big injuries.

You may not like hearing that but it's kinda true.

let's talk about the drug use of men in CF.
It is suboptimal on all levels for hypertrophy.

Normalizing for drug use, crossfit is a joke.

MPhilosopher wrote:
Normalizing for drug use, crossfit is a joke.

Its a sport not a joke.

like I say all the time, what is the objective of drug use? let's take billy the box champion.

billy wants to get his bench press bigger, and his clean and jerk bigger. so he wants to take drugs. he jumps on the internet, and low and behold he finds tons of sites saying that steroids are bad, sarms are good. also, he doesn't want to inject cos well that means he is going to get too big you know. SARMS ARE CRAP FOR MEN. the whole sarms movement is to remove the androgenic part so that they are safe for use in females. The only one that is really anywhere with real studies is osterine. but these guys are taking them left right and center. so he gets his 20kgs on his bench, and 20kgs on his clean and jerk, for 1 rep max. he has achieved his goal, he never once trained in an optimal range for muscle growth.

remember CrossFit is the sport of fitness by definition, so they are doing, singles, doubles, triples combined with marathon runs, etc, so if you look at the nature of the beast, you aren't training for hypertrophy, and 2 you are doing endurance training in between. so at best you are going to look like a little jacked marathon runner to say the least.
yet look at how the women look? jacked little freaks, cos they are training with heavy loads and training for progressive overload.

you are never going to use drugs in CrossFit for aesthetic reasons, only for strength (powerlifter) and endurance( marathon runner) and at best you are going to look like a combo of the 2.

and trust me, I have seen CrossFit cycles that will make your eyes water, over 500mg of test, 500mg equi and masteron, some up to 2-3grams of gear, insulin and GH, however, they are not training for hypertrophy.

look at 90% of the ufc athletes. they are all using trt and insulin and GH that would be great of normal people to grow, yet none of them are jacked to what you would consider bodybuilder jacked. why? it's not what they are training for. they are training to be deadly in a ring with a gorilla on their back trying to kill them. not an 8-10 set of dumbell press for a big chest.

same with tour de France athletes, some of them are at 5mg per kg of testosterone, how many of them are jacked? NONE.

its not the drug use that depicts the hypertrophy, its the training style and progressive overload and progressively getting stronger in a certain rep range.

Oupa wrote:

MPhilosopher wrote:
Normalizing for drug use, crossfit is a joke.

Its a sport not a joke.

Fair enough I would agree it is a sport.
I would not say it is ideal for strength, hypertrophy, or a balance thereof.
It is a specific sport with a specific design of completing specific exercises.

OP is not doing himself a favour if his goal isn't exactly that.

MPhilosopher wrote:

Oupa wrote:

MPhilosopher wrote:
Normalizing for drug use, crossfit is a joke.

Its a sport not a joke.

Fair enough I would agree it is a sport.
I would not say it is ideal for strength, hypertrophy, or a balance thereof.
It is a specific sport with a specific design of completing specific exercises.

OP is not doing himself a favour if his goal isn't exactly that.

There's "drugs" in every sport in this industry be it on the track or in a cage, bud.
His goal is strength and cardio endurance. Anavar and cardarine will definitely help with that with test. He can always add other compounds to improve those factors if he wants.
Most of all DHTs will work for him in this case, together with a very low dose of clen etc. The list can go on.

training style will always determine the outcome of the person as Empire said.

SamZ4000 wrote:

MPhilosopher wrote:

Oupa wrote:

MPhilosopher wrote:
Normalizing for drug use, crossfit is a joke.

Its a sport not a joke.

Fair enough I would agree it is a sport.
I would not say it is ideal for strength, hypertrophy, or a balance thereof.
It is a specific sport with a specific design of completing specific exercises.

OP is not doing himself a favour if his goal isn't exactly that.

There's "drugs" in every sport in this industry be it on the track or in a cage, bud.
His goal is strength and cardio endurance. Anavar and cardarine will definitely help with that with test. He can always add other compounds to improve those factors if he wants.
Most of all DHTs will work for him in this case, together with a very low dose of clen etc. The list can go on.

training style will always determine the outcome of the person as Empire said.

Again, if he training to look good.
We can advise a program for that.

If he is training specifically because he likes crossfit, that is fine too.

Cardarine is not a drug I feel comfortable advising any human to take, anyway.
(at least without them understanding the potential risks, as with any PED really but more so that one)

everything is dose dependent at the end of the day.

SamZ4000 wrote: everything is dose dependent at the end of the day.

Are you saying cardarine is safe?

My point is, I don't think OP is ready to use PEDs yet.
Assuming the stats are 1 RPM, he can easily progress without drugs.

Proper nutrition and intelligent supplementation are what he needs.

A basic hormone panel would also be very useful before he takes anything.

Are you saying that having elevated cholesterol, taking pando, breathing the city air, or drinking alchohol or even eating processed food are safe? Nope. But neither are taking drugs.

Also the OP will get the desired results from the cycle he is wanting to do, he wants to improve his strength and cardio, and his physique. Anavar is known to burn fat and build muscle, its in clinical studies. The issue is what is his expectation of using these drugs to the level of his physique enhancement..

Will they work, they are drugs, of course they will work. Will he gain 3kgs of muscle, probably, will he gain 20kgs, no. Will he improve his cardio vascular endurance, yes. Will he become Usain bolt. No. Is this all in line with training, nutrition and long term adherence? Yes. Will he stick to the nutrition and long term adherence of a nutrition plan? Probably not.

You have to take what his goals are into consideration and what his expectations are of using these drugs into consideration.

Yes we can all progress without drugs? Do we want to? No cos being natural sucks dick.

Empire wrote: Are you saying that having elevated cholesterol, taking pando, breathing the city air, or drinking alchohol or even eating processed food are safe? Nope. But neither are taking drugs.

Also the OP will get the desired results from the cycle he is wanting to do, he wants to improve his strength and cardio, and his physique. Anavar is known to burn fat and build muscle, its in clinical studies. The issue is what is his expectation of using these drugs to the level of his physique enhancement..

Will they work, they are drugs, of course they will work. Will he gain 3kgs of muscle, probably, will he gain 20kgs, no. Will he improve his cardio vascular endurance, yes. Will he become Usain bolt. No. Is this all in line with training, nutrition and long term adherence? Yes. Will he stick to the nutrition and long term adherence of a nutrition plan? Probably not.

You have to take what his goals are into consideration and what his expectations are of using these drugs into consideration.

Yes we can all progress without drugs? Do we want to? No cos being natural sucks dick.

The study on oxandrolone was in overweight men for starters, and was used relative to other drugs, not in any controlled equivalent dose. It is not known to "burn" fat in healthy men.
I don't think a cycle will achieve what he wants, maybe for a few months he will, indeed, increase performance.

His goals were too vague, what % improvement does he want, and what are his specific goals.
How old is he?
How much is he expecting to hold from this cycle?

PPAR-δ agonists aren't exactly well researched, again semantics but why not let OP know the full picture, there are safer ways to enhance endurance.
Edit: the current research is actually not promising at all

I maintain he does not need anabolics yet, I am surprised not more people have taken this position.