Nomadlab Nomatest Combo ???

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03 Jul 2008 15:26 #4720 by acidkidsa
Nomadlab Nomatest Combo ??? was created by acidkidsa
Anyone tried or heard of it yet??

It think its kinda of the nearest thing to Test 400??

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03 Jul 2008 16:38 #4725 by jackrabbit1
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Nomatest Combo
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Active: Testosterones: Isocaproate 20mg/ml, Phenylpropionate 20mg/ml, Propionate 20mg/ml,
Cypionate 40mg/ml, Enanthate 40mg/ml, Decaonate 90mg/ml, Undecyleonate 70mg/ml


Nomad 7 Testosterone Blend
300mg/ml/10ml









The 7-ester testosterone blend from Nomad Labs is designed to give the body a wide variety of esters for maximum uptake by the receptors. the concepts is linked to that of Sustanon, where blending fast and slow acting testosterones esters allow for greater effect with less side effects due to the fat that there is less buildup of androgens overall.

The test combo will be used for building but long term users will also find it yields effects where other single esters effects have slowed down. Good size and strength increases can be expected along with the usual side effects, especially at high doses.

Nomatest Combo will fill the gap left by the very popular Test 400 no longer produces but it should work even better.

Dosage will start at 1ml a week upwards.


www.saanabolicreview.co.za/nomatestcombo.html

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03 Jul 2008 18:58 #4727 by acidkidsa
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yip read that already....

Want to use someone as a guinea pig first before I decide to try test again..

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03 Jul 2008 20:59 #4728 by admin
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Honestly, I believe this testosterone mix is nothing more effective than Sustanon...perhaps even less.

Let me explain... you see there are 7 esters attached to varying amounts of active testosterone molecules, 4 of which are very long and heavy esters.

Isocaproate 20mg/ml - 7%
Phenylpropionate 20mg/ml - 7%
Propionate 20mg/ml - 7%
Cypionate 40mg/ml - 13%
Enanthate 40mg/ml - 13%
Decanoate 90mg/ml - 30%
Undecylenate 70mg/ml - 23%

What that means is that in that 300mg mix a massive amount of that weight will be due to the big/heavy esters... eg. Decanoate and Undecylenate.

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Let’s look at what part the esters play in the final weight per dosage.

Please note I'm working with percentages below and not actual g/mol

Testosterone: Molecular Weight: 288 * 100 = 28800 (This is the ideal for pure testosterone)

Isocaproate: Molecular Weight: 98 * 7 = 686
Phenylpropionate: Molecular Weight: 132 * 7 = 924
Propionate: Molecular Weight: 56 * 7 = 392
Cypionate: Molecular Weight: 124 * 13 = 1612
Enanthate: Molecular Weight: 112 * 13 = 1456
Decanoate: Molecular Weight: 154 * 30 = 4620
Undecylenate: Molecular Weight: 166 * 23 = 3818

Total ester weight = 13508

Amount of free testosterone = 28800 – 13508 = 15292

Percentage of actual testosterone = 53%
Percentage of esters = 47%

I'm not 100% sure that my calculations are correct... I will get my chemistry books later if we want to go into more detail. If I'm correct it shows that you will only get 53% free testosterone in that mix the rest are useless esters, that only make up weight.

Another thing: Why the hell do you want Cypionate and Enanthate in the same mix... there's only a single carbon atom difference... probably for marketing purposes... 7 testosterones looks pretty good on paper...

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03 Jul 2008 21:18 #4729 by admin
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Attached is the ester diagram I made:

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BTW: In PGW Testen-300 you will get 62% pure testosterone and in PGW Prop-100 you will get 80% pure testosterone. Nomad Test Combo is only 53% pure testosterone. So you do the math... can I take your order now?

That's why short esters are more effective... Keep your cycles simple, then you don't have to inject ridiculous amounts of oil to get the same effect...

Nomad Test Combo = R480 for 10ml @ 300mg/ml (53% Pure Test)
PGW Testen-300 = R360 for 10ml @ 300mg/ml (62% Pure Test)

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03 Jul 2008 22:03 #4730 by Netro
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Sweet post admin.
That was as smooth as the PGW prop :laugh:

Like taking an umbrella and shoving it up Nomads ass and opening it :P :P :P :P :P

You think Nomad is trying to boost sales by coming up with gimmicks? I like the way the previous mentioned website compares the 7 ester test to a high dose test.

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03 Jul 2008 22:16 #4731 by admin
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I'll probably get killed because of this... oh well...

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03 Jul 2008 22:34 #4732 by Netro
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Why?

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03 Jul 2008 22:58 #4733 by admin
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Netro wrote:

Why?


Neah man, not really... just joking... ;)

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04 Jul 2008 07:57 #4734 by jackrabbit1
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Nice explanation. Must tell you that after being on prop for 7 months im REALLY looking at the longer esters fr the next cycle.
Im nursng me arse-cheeks with voltaren gel cause of all the abuse. Got a fear for the quads since injecting into the capilliary once and another time hit a nerve.

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04 Jul 2008 10:16 #4738 by acidkidsa
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I going to find out more and give it a try . I get it for R400...

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21 Jul 2008 21:26 #5068 by Batman
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I love the stuff,, -- admin your math is a little out,, the test combo is 197mg of base test per 1ml 300mg,, so it's about 66% ,, test enanthate is 69% base test, and prop is 79%

If it's not working,,, take double,,,

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21 Jul 2008 23:15 #5070 by admin
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Batman wrote:

I love the stuff,, -- admin your math is a little out,, the test combo is 197mg of base test per 1ml 300mg,, so it's about 66% ,, test enanthate is 69% base test, and prop is 79%


I wasn't too sure about my calculations anyway, but one thing I know from personal experience is that Nomad products are way under dosed at the moment. I'm not sure if it applies to all their products, but certainly to Test Cyp. There are shortages of Test Cyp at the moment, so maybe they are just trying to stretch it out as far as they can.

I've read about complaints on this forum about Test Cyp, Dianabol and Anavar.

Do you mind telling me how you got your percentages?

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22 Jul 2008 08:53 #5073 by chemical g
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Admin well done on that explanation. I dont think anyone could have put it better.

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22 Jul 2008 18:04 #5086 by R.Knez
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Starting My Test 300 In A Week Will Keep My Progress Posted But Looks Like Power Stuff..!!!

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22 Jul 2008 19:20 #5089 by acidkidsa
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R.Knez wrote:

Starting My Test 300 In A Week Will Keep My Progress Posted But Looks Like Power Stuff..!!!


Is that the Test Combo ? Or the PGW?

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22 Jul 2008 20:30 #5095 by R.Knez
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Test Combo

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22 Jul 2008 21:02 #5096 by Batman
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Here is a quick Calculation

Testosterone Isocaproate 71.00% X 20mg = 14.2mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 66.00% X 20mg = 13.2mg
Testosterone Propionate 79.00% X 20mg = 15.8mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 67.00% X 40mg = 26.8mg
Testosterone enanthate : 69.00% X 40mg = 27.6
Testosterone Decanoate 62.00% X 90mg = 55.8
Testosterone undeclynate 62.50% x 70mg = 43.75

= Total of 197mg of Base Testosterone per Ml

I found the % on the web somewhere,, can't remember where,, I have it saved

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Think of it this way,, look at your chart,,, even the heaviest molecules,, testosterone decanoate and undeclynate,, are still more than 60% base testosterone,, so how can the total be less than that?


There is no cyp anywhere at the moment as far as I know

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22 Jul 2008 21:50 #5101 by admin
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Oh, I see. Valid point you have there. Don't know where my calculations went wrong, but thanks for pointing it out.

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23 Jul 2008 16:19 #5112 by Batista
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im on testen by pgw.. works line the bomb but injections painful!!:(

its as satisfying to me as cuming is ,you know as having sex with a woman and cuming..so can you believe how much Im in heaven?im like getting the feeling of cuming in the gym im getting the feeling of cuming at home im getting the feeling of cuming backstage,so im cuming day and night!!

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23 Jul 2008 16:29 #5113 by admin
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Batista wrote:

im on testen by pgw.. works line the bomb but injections painful!!:(


Where are you injecting. Quads are sometimes painfull.

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23 Jul 2008 21:37 #5114 by Batista
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Yeah i always shoot in my quads and it always hurts!Can hardly walk next day..

its as satisfying to me as cuming is ,you know as having sex with a woman and cuming..so can you believe how much Im in heaven?im like getting the feeling of cuming in the gym im getting the feeling of cuming at home im getting the feeling of cuming backstage,so im cuming day and night!!

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24 Jul 2008 08:40 #5115 by admin
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Batista wrote:

Yeah i always shoot in my quads and it always hurts!Can hardly walk next day..


Yip, try your thighs or glutes and let me know if it is better. Also don't inject too close to your knee if you do quads, keep it higher up your leg. I had similar issues when I run out of injection sites and got adventurous enough to inject lower down.

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24 Jul 2008 16:15 #5123 by Batista
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I always inject in outer upper quad.. cant turn around to inject in my upper outer glute lol

its as satisfying to me as cuming is ,you know as having sex with a woman and cuming..so can you believe how much Im in heaven?im like getting the feeling of cuming in the gym im getting the feeling of cuming at home im getting the feeling of cuming backstage,so im cuming day and night!!

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24 Jul 2008 17:25 #5126 by jo1
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i have injected nomad test cyp in the past in my bis tris and delts it wasn't painfull,is pgw's test enan. more painfull to inject than the nomad or also the old depotrone, i injected those also with no problem,in the past??

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