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11 Dec 2012 13:36 #129990 by rj66
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age 28
weight 88kgs (mostly lean bit of a gut, working on it)
height 5ft 9inches (short arse)

training- full body circuit with moderat weight 3 times per week 45mins intense effort
recently started 1 body part per day , record weight and reps , try to increase on every workout

protien = 160-180grams per day, lean mince, chicken breast, whey protein
carbs = 120-150 grams per day, basmati rice, brown flour tacos,future life smart food, mixed veg, few tsp of peanut butter per day, 500ml milk per day.

goal= burn fat, strentgh increase some size would be nice, basically a trade off, would like to stay around 85kg but leaner, where i live they cant give bf percentage,can supply a defaced pic of my current self.

budget=R2000

QUESTION, 1ST TIME USER, please advise on what to take, 1 compound would be great but 2 if that would be better, nt scared of needles, diet can be adjusted, i can be disciplined.

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11 Dec 2012 21:58 #130010 by Bobcat
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Dianabol ant Test Cyp

I'm not afraid of death,I just don't want to be there when it happens

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11 Dec 2012 21:59 #130011 by Bobcat
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Dianabol and Test Cyp

I'm not afraid of death,I just don't want to be there when it happens

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11 Dec 2012 22:12 #130012 by rj66
thanks, and how should i take it, dosages what of pct

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11 Dec 2012 22:50 - 11 Dec 2012 22:57 #130014 by Oupa
Test Prop + Anavar
6 weeksTest @ 100mg EOD + 6 Weeks Anavar @ 60mg ED
Pct2
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11 Dec 2012 22:56 #130015 by rj66
from what iv researched test prop and anavar sounds about right, please advise duration of cycle,and pct. EOD means every other day, so that would be how many times a week, sorry i went o shady goverment school in zim

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11 Dec 2012 23:47 #130020 by rj66
ok, any thing else i coud take that i only have to inject once or twice per week.

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12 Dec 2012 02:03 #130023 by iMan
Upload a pic so we can estimate bf bud.

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12 Dec 2012 07:10 #130025 by p1et
Good luck doing a prop/anavar cycle for 2k
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12 Dec 2012 07:43 - 12 Dec 2012 09:12 #130032 by mike123
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U need to decide what u want to do cut or bulk both are diet related ..read the diet stickies ..try Keto if u want to loose weight..when u are below 15 % and better 12%...[not always easy for some to get below 12% ] then decide on AAS as wortel suggests for cutting but this is not within your budget... check out test cyp winny and a good diet PCT no2
Too-much

by the way 5.9 is not short :)
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12 Dec 2012 10:09 #130046 by rj66
ok,let me try drop as much weight as possible in the next 2 months, i will read about keto diet, im here to learn so i will take your advice, just 1 question tho, can i use something like heat for now to help aid with weight loss, will try up load a pic tho. thanks

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12 Dec 2012 10:21 #130047 by mike123
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If your diet is sorted ,cardio and training so u are starting to loose then Heat will assist with loosing a little quicker but please note it is 90 % diet and cardio heat is only a aid and not a quick fix.

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12 Dec 2012 12:32 - 12 Dec 2012 12:37 #130055 by rj66
ok, thanks. yes i have been losing gradually, i will use the heat as an aid, please advise if the following is correct.

heat- 2 days on 2 days off max duration 4 weeks then 4 week break, 1 tab in the morning 9am 1 tab around 2pm. to check tolerance. is it safe to take heat before intense circuit or rather straight after workout to keep RmR going.
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12 Dec 2012 12:50 #130056 by mike123
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Dont cycle use straight and up the dose when u feel comfortable..as with any drug u need to monator yourself ...if u are doing cardio and your heart starts jumping out of your chest do the obvious and decrease cardio ...monitor heart rate when exercising.

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12 Dec 2012 13:08 #130058 by rj66
ok so i must use it everyday, for how long, is 6 weeks o.k here is link to my current self i suppose shirt off would have helped more, anyway. lightie refused to move

picasaweb.google.com/1039167376984533422...#5821010885108906290

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12 Dec 2012 13:14 #130059 by mike123
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finish the bottle and then try clen yombe but it is not good to stay to long on these.

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12 Dec 2012 13:58 #130065 by rj66
ok, not sure what issue is with pic, anyway now that we moving forward, i researched keto diet, it seems fine i wont have a problem eating like that.

question 1- can crea pump be taken before workout whilst on keto.
question 2- which type is better

TKD:

A TKD is one where you will eat carbohydrates right before and right after your workouts. This is the best bet for those who are involved in more intense activities and require some carbohydrates to fuel them and who are not as interested in doing carb loads and depletion workouts.


CKD:

A CKD on the other hand is a diet where you will eat a minimum amount of carbohydrates per day (that 30-50 gram number) and then on the weekend (or at a time that is appropriate for you) do a large 'carb-up' phase where you will eat a large amount of carbohydrates in an effort to refill your muscle glycogen stores so you can continue to workout the coming week.

Normally right before the carb-up phase you will do a depletion workout where you try and get your muscles to completely eliminate their glycogen supply. Then when you do the 'carb-up' phase, you cut almost all the fat out of the diet so you are now just consuming protein and carbohydrates.

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13 Dec 2012 09:13 - 13 Dec 2012 09:15 #130089 by mike123
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no 1 = no...not on keto. = sugar

u are doing carb cycling which is good ...if u hit a platue..try Keto and then back to C/Cyc mix and match keep the body guesing
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13 Dec 2012 11:16 #130094 by Oupa

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Good luck doing a prop/anavar cycle for 2k


It's the festive season , have some faith buddy :-)

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13 Dec 2012 12:10 #130096 by mike123
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LOL

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13 Dec 2012 15:57 #130100 by Oupa
Mike, sit vir jou n prentjie op man, jy lyk soos n blank skaakstel ;-)
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13 Dec 2012 16:01 - 13 Dec 2012 16:02 #130101 by mike123
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O fok nou vra jy my n ding :) ... ek sal sien of die dinasour iets kan regry op die PC B)
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13 Dec 2012 19:15 #130104 by Waldu
Dbol and test cyp could be a lean cycle only need to inject once but twice would be perfect. i made very good lean gains on that cycle. water retention can be controlled by diet. i went from 12% to about 6% and added on 6kg along with that. i bridged with winstrol anavar was bit expensive still worked very well, yet to try anavar

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16 Dec 2012 11:16 - 16 Dec 2012 11:37 #130166 by rj66
ok, will keep doing what im doing till end of feb, then will go with one of the following

test cyp for 10 weeks

week 1-4 250mg per week
week 5-8 500mg per week
week 9-10 250mg per week.

can gyno dvelope at these levels, if so what should i take to avoid that, pct no 1 .

option 2

Week 1-4: Dianabol at 30mg per day.
Week 1-8: Testosterone Cyp at 250-350mg per week.

pct no 1

any thoughts
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16 Dec 2012 16:42 #130168 by Mike504
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1-4weeks. Dbol 40mg
1-10weeks test cyp 500mg

Pct 2

Have arimidex on hand in cause of any Gyno symptoms

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