Planning my next cycle.

Hello Gents

Well I'm planning my next cycle. My last cycle was test and dbol with a tbol bridge and I've done 4 or 5 test only or test and oral cycles before that.
My last cycle ended pretty shitly I wasn't able to train for the last 6 weeks deu to tension headaches and with Xmas my diet suffered a bit. On that not I'm going to contact DJ for a diet because in the past it's not something I've ever put 100 percent into. Like I've had my Oats and whey for breakfast then trained had my post whey and vitargo and then a load of chicken and rice. But never counted cals before.
So I'm thinking prop and npp for 8 or 10weeks with Var for the last 8 weeks up until PCT.
I'm currently 112kg at about 13 bf
I've just finished PCT so this cycle will only be in a couple of months once I've done blood work.

Now I've never tried npp can I run caber throughout? Ill run letro throughout as normal because I am gyno prone.
I'm gonna do 1.5ml maybe 2ml prop eod what dose npp would you guys recommend?

Thanks for your advice, I'm just doing a bit of homework for now

Never used any of those so cant comment ..but lets push u back to the top and see if the experianced guys have a comment.

Only used Prop , 1.5ml is perfect. Cant comment on the rest.

Thanks guys.
Ye I just dont have any experience with npp or dealing with prolactine so I'm just wanting to get my head around it before I make the jump.

So I think I'm going 10 weeks prop eod at 1.5 ml and 8 weeks npp at 1ml eod. Plus 80mg var a day for the last 8 weeks.
Can anyone advise me on caber or dealing with prolactine..? Everyone seems to just skip this topic,

if I'm being a chop just tell me.

Cabaser dosed at .5mg twice a week should do the job keeping progesterone and prolactin sides in check.
Also controlling estrogen will also keep prolactating-gyno sides low cuase the higher the estrogen the more excitable the receptors are to progesterone.

You should really be fine with 0.5mg cabaser a week (0.25mg twice a week). It is very strong stuff. Like Fakey said by keeping estrogen low with an AI you will also minimise prolactin as well. Taking your size into consideration even 0.8ml NPP EOD is more than enough for your first time and then you can run it for 10 weeks instead of 8 weeks. with 3 vials NPP that would leave 2ml extra that you use to frontload with in your first week. That's what I would do.

Thanks guys really appreciat your help.

Hey Lads

So I was thinking of running super test instead of Prop and only pinning twice a week.
Can I pin super test twice a week?
And then what do you recon my npp dose should be taking my size into account and the fact that its my first time using Npp?
I was thinking 1.5ml npp and 1ml super test Monday Thursday for 10 weeks and Var for the last 6 or 8 weeks up until pct.

Thanks

Howzit bro

Pin the Supertest EOD so you have constant blood levels of the shorter esters of test.Maybe something in the line of 0.8ml Supertest Monday/Wednesday/Friday/Sunday/Tuesday...etc....

I've used Supertest a couple of times but always pinned twice a week,mondays/wednesdays and had good gains but following some suggestions here on the forum EOD would be best....

Personally I would run the supertest for at least 12 weeks...

Never used NPP before so not sure....

I just thought with it mainly being teste and cyp twice a week would be fine and that it'd just kick in a bit quicker than teste deu to the other shorter esters...

It will definitely kick in quicker with the shorter esthers but being shorter esthers you will only have the effect of them for short periods and then leaving only the long estehers to work on days that the short esthers are no longer active.

I use to do the same..pin twice a week but gonna try pinning EOD when I use Supertest again...not sure if it will make a massive difference but it should give better gains....


Whats your stats?

Couldn't train for quite a while deu to injury so lost some weight and gained a bit of fat but I'm back on track now.
183cm 109kg and about 13 or 14bf.

I used to get very bad tension headaches all the time. After I started waking up at the same time every night I went to see my doc and I found out that i have naturally low serotonin levels which were causing the extreme migraines,tension headaches and interrupted sleep. And as you can imagine my body was failing to reach the R.E.M stage of sleep which is vital for muscle growth too. I found I have been feeling a lot better and sleeping great and getting better gains since I have received treatment for it. Just some food for thought if anyone else suffers from these symptoms.

Hope that you’ve used ST before, some have serious pin burn… :pinch:
3ml NPP / week & 2ml ST / week split equally - Mon Wed Fri – Sorted.
Running NPP 150mg & Prop100mg currently as above and I find it fine.
Much lighter though @85Kg.1.72cm@12Bf.
Purposefully not using the word smaller… :whistle:

Agreed, super test hurts like a bitch, training legs has become a balancing act between shots and days your legs dont hurt so much you cant sit on them:lol:

Train..? couldnt walk for days...
Had to swop gear out with the grosser for some TestE what at relief
didn't know about the pin the day after.

Ian79 wrote: Hey Lads

So I was thinking of running super test instead of Prop and only pinning twice a week.
Can I pin super test twice a week?
And then what do you recon my npp dose should be taking my size into account and the fact that its my first time using Npp?
I was thinking 1.5ml npp and 1ml super test Monday Thursday for 10 weeks and Var for the last 6 or 8 weeks up until pct.

Thanks

Hey bro! I am trying to form an opinion of why people use things like Sus and Supertest instead of simply using prop or the other single esters. Please explain to me why you want to use supertest instead of the test prop?

I've used sus in the past at 2 jabs a week and had great results so I was just wondering about supertest..?
I don't really mind but am not bowled over by prop eod's and I'm of the opinion that if I'm using a short ester like npp why wait 2 weeks for teste to kick..?
Just doing a bit of homework I'm not sure what difference EOD and biweekly would really make with a supertest/npp cycle... I recon very little... But I'm not keen on waiting 2 weeks for teste to kick in I think it's a waste on what is already a short cycle.

Does anyone have a graph on supertest? Or what are the Mods thoughts on biweekly pins?
I see in Pumps power house cycle he has it at once a week jabs...

I am finding injecting prop and tren everyday makes quite a big difference.

Thanks Bro! Least you have the time for an opinion, most would rather just comment on bloody Oscar.

If your cycle is 8-10 weeks i would go for the prop over st.

Thanks, that what ill do 2mlprop and between .8 and 1ml npp EOD for 10 weeks, you no how hard it is getting .8ml spot on:-)
and 80mg var for the last 8 weeks until PCT.

8weeks before pct?