2nd cycle, no expert so please check for me

Hi Good People, I have completed my first beginers cycle and am pleased with my results. Retained lots of clean muscle. On the 17th Nov I have planned the following and already purchased all goods, just need to ensure its correct and nothing is missing. Please advise me.

Week 1 to 12, Test Cyp, 600mg Weekly split in two doses
Week 1 to 10, NPP, 300mg Weekly split into three doses
Week 7 to 15, HCG, 1000IU Weekly split into two doses
Week 13 to 15, Proviron, Proviron 50mg daily
Week 13 to 15, Winstrol, 50mg daily
Week 16, Clomid, 100mg daily
Week 17, Nolva 20mg daily, Aromasin 20mg daily
Week 18 to 20, Nolva 20mg daily, Aromasin 20mg daily, HCG 1500iu split into three doses
Week 21, Nolva 20mg daily, Aromosin 20mg daily

End, anything missing or needs to be added? Thanking you.

FIllet wrote: Hi Good People, I have completed my first beginers cycle and am pleased with my results. Retained lots of clean muscle. On the 17th Nov I have planned the following and already purchased all goods, just need to ensure its correct and nothing is missing. Please advise me.

Week 1 to 12, Test Cyp, 600mg Weekly split in two doses
Week 1 to 10, NPP, 300mg Weekly split into three doses
Week 7 to 15, HCG, 1000IU Weekly split into two doses
Week 13 to 15, Proviron, Proviron 50mg daily
Week 13 to 15, Winstrol, 50mg daily
Week 16, Clomid, 100mg daily
Week 17, Nolva 20mg daily, Aromasin 20mg daily
Week 18 to 20, Nolva 20mg daily, Aromasin 20mg daily, HCG 1500iu split into three doses
Week 21, Nolva 20mg daily, Aromosin 20mg daily

End, anything missing or needs to be added? Thanking you.

Cyp ..normally 250mg per 1ml so twice a week = 500 mg and 10 or 15 weeks 2 or 3 vials ???
HCG twice a week at 250 iu from week 7

PCT starts 36 days after last cyp shot
Bridge with winny for 30 /36 days ?
HCG at 500iu EOD by 10 shots with nolva

Stock standard Test-Cyp NPP cycle. You have to wait 5 week (36 days) after cyp till PCT and that´s for 500mg test. Wait a day or two longer for PCT and start PCT on week 17. Winstrol and Proviron all the way till two days before PCT.

I would run the NPP Week 3-12 when your test plasma levels are a little bit higher. You can get away with pinning the NPP twice a week with your test cyp, but be precise with your timing.

Why run cyp if you are going to inject npp 3times a week. Personally i would rather switch to super test.

Also what are you planning to use for prolactin sides?

I would switch the cyp for enanthate and bash that at 600mg a week. Keep the NPP at 300mg a week. That way you can pin each compound twice a week. Do 300mg test E and 150mg NPP in each shot

I usually pin on monday mornings before 8am and thursday nights before 8pm to get a perfect split.

I would also lower the HCG dose to between 250iu and 500iu weekly.

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If you already have everything then

1-1.5 ml cyp ,1ml npp x 2 a week..

Bridge from week 12-16

Pct will start in week 17

Yes i already have everything PP so the plan was to get 1.5ml cyp twice weekly to make 600mg. Is 1ml NPP twice a week enough? Bridge and pct sounds good.

Pyro, i thought that test should be run two weeks past NPP bud?

Prog, i will run super test on my third cycle since i have all goodies already.

Dobby i meant 250iu at a time sorry pal.

Mike i have 3 vials of PGW cyp so was planning on hitting 600mg per week.

Thanks Fellows.

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Why run cyp if you are going to inject npp 3times a week. Personally i would rather switch to super test.

Good suggestion.

I wouldnt pin NPP twice a week, i am not into this precise timing thing.

FIllet wrote: Yes i already have everything PP so the plan was to get 1.5ml cyp twice weekly to make 600mg. Is 1ml NPP twice a week enough? Bridge and pct sounds good.

Pyro, i thought that test should be run two weeks past NPP bud?

Prog, i will run super test on my third cycle since i have all goodies already.

Dobby i meant 250iu at a time sorry pal.

Mike i have 3 vials of PGW cyp so was planning on hitting 600mg per week.

Thanks Fellows.

only axio has a 200mg/ml cypionate ? 2x 1.5ml will indeed give you 600mg

Where as PGW is 250mg/ml meaning 2x 1.5ml will be 750mg So just clarify that

If its PGW, I would increase npp too 450 mg as well, (3ml) it's a good dose in my experience

Ps. Then you can run 1ml of each Monday/Wednesday/Friday

WTF is my mind then PP, thank god i asked this question then
Hell 750mg will be just fine :oops:
Its all PGW my brew. thanks

Sweet good luck bud! Look forward to your progress

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Also what are you planning to use for prolactin sides?

Remember your cabaser on hand.

Are you going to do a cycle log ?

Thanks PP, appreciate it.

Will do Oupa. thanks
No cycle log, last time it did not turn out to pretty remember.

I changed my mind, 450mg NPP will be good with such a high test dose. So it will be 1.5ml NPP and 1.5ml cyp in each shot.

I seriously recommend the 2 shot a week approach. It works out well for me because I have a routine that ensures I don't forget to do my jabs. If you think you might forget then do 3 shots a week.


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dobby8233 wrote: It works out well for me because I have a routine that ensures I don't forget to do my jabs. If you think you might forget then do 3 shots a week.

Its not about forgetting....

Once you get older and off the tit (not being rude) you have u responsibilities/emergencies and un foreseen circumstances and you cannot always plan and action everything to the hour.

Damn right Oupa, am getting older and with kids, working longer hours etc etc its not so easy so rather klap it more frequent. i have the aromasin, HCGs, arimidex, nolva, clomid. What was that other name for cabaser again?

admin wrote: The only Cabaser you will find in SA are those imported by the supplier himself. In SA Cabaser is not sold in pharmacies and we only have Dostinex available. Dostinex is dosed lower and very expensive.

^^

Okay Oupa, give me your left over Dostinex or i will have to hurt you :whistle:
Will check with my source, i actually dont have any of that. i did read that nolva helps for prolactin but not worth the risk i suppose, need something stronger.

My ma sal jou bliksem as jy my seer maak

If he can get you PGW, sure as hell he can find you cabaser..

BTW does tamoxifen have any influence over prolactin at all? Curiosity...

FIllet wrote: BTW does tamoxifen have any influence over prolactin at all? Curiosity...

Nothing worth mentioning.

Thanks MA, will stick with the real deal then.

FIllet wrote: Pyro, i thought that test should be run two weeks past NPP bud?

Nah bud that is Oupa's thing. Dunno where he gets these crazy ideas from. :whistle: JJ Oupa! Haha Oupa also only does that when he uses Test Prop so it'll be different with Test Cyp. I normally run all compounds till the very last moment.

a final 19nor question:
If you were to start getting gyno on nandro/test cycle how would you know if you need to use arimidex for test or cabaser for nandro? This may be a dumb question to those of you who know.
On my test cycle i just finished i had no need to use the arimidex.