Planning my first stacked cycle

Nightwolf85
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09 Sep 2014 09:12 #174277 by Nightwolf85

Planning my first stacked cycle was created by Nightwolf85

Hey guys... im a long time reader, new poster... so be gentle please.

Stats:

29yrs
1.83m
84kg
9% bf

I've been working for 6 months to get down from 18% bf to where I am now at 9%. Following a good diet plan and taining hard! Ive been working out for 2yr prior to this and feel that im ready to go big!!

I do not want to bulk but rather gain good lean muscle mass. I work out 5 times a week on weights and do 2 games of squash for cardio.

After reading alot of posts and stickies ive come close to a decision on what gear to take and would like your advice.

Week 1 - 8 test E
Week 1 - 8 Tren Ace
Week 1 - 12 HGH Seratropin
Week 8 - 12 winny

Pct clomid/nolva and what else?

Im on a high protein low carb eating plan of about 2600kCal a day. Supplements include whey protein, casein, creatine and gaba.

Thanks guys.

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G-man
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09 Sep 2014 09:58 - 09 Sep 2014 09:59 #174280 by G-man

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hey nightwolf. Welcome to the forum.
Congrats on getting your bodyfat% down like that,that's good work.
I'm sure Oupa or one of the other moderators will comment on adding Tren to your cycle,I don't think it's a good idea if it's your first cycle tho.
Also you have to let us know what your dosages are going to be like.
If I was you I would definately extend the Test E to 10 weeks minimum.
Test E is a long ester so it might take a while before you feel it working properly.

Cheers man and best of luck:)

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Nightwolf85
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09 Sep 2014 10:58 #174291 by Nightwolf85

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Hey G-man, thanks for the welcome and the quick reply... I will post the dosage, thanks.

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PoisonedPulse
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09 Sep 2014 11:27 - 09 Sep 2014 11:28 #174294 by PoisonedPulse

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Opt for test prop instead of test e,

I am running a very similar cycle at the moment, and highly impressed..

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Nightwolf85
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09 Sep 2014 11:36 #174296 by Nightwolf85

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Thanks PoisonedPulse, I will definitely take a look at that. Do you have a log on here or thread I can take a look at?

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PoisonedPulse
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09 Sep 2014 13:49 #174300 by PoisonedPulse

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Unfortunately not bud, i havnt been on the forum in awhile..

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Mason Might
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09 Sep 2014 15:09 #174304 by Mason Might

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Hey man

As a first cycle you want to keep it simple as possible so you can easily identify the cause of any sides that might spring up...
I would advocate running a Test only cycle to start... Perhaps with a Winny bridge, which should help bring out some vascularity and give you that dry look provided you keep your BF low.

I'd propose:
Week 1-12 Test E (250mg x 2 per week)
Week 13-16 Winstrol (50mg ED)

PCT:
Week 17-18 clomid (50mg ED)
Week 19-22 Kessar (20mg ED)

You can run HCG twice a week at 250iu from early on, right up until PCT. Alternatively during PCT (as per PCT protocol 1).

Keep an AI on hand as Test does aromatise...

This would be a more responsible first attempt and is still going to leave you smiling!

Best of Luck Mate

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Nightwolf85
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09 Sep 2014 19:57 #174313 by Nightwolf85

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Hey Mason

Thanks alot for the advice and cycle idea, I will definitely consider it. Im going to my source tomorrow and will then better see what he has available and then update my cycle plan accordingly.

I appreciate everyone's comments very much.

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Oupa
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09 Sep 2014 21:16 #174315 by Oupa

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Squash & Winstrol & 30 years of age. Good luck with your joints & tendons

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Muscleaddict
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09 Sep 2014 23:03 #174321 by Muscleaddict

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Oupa wrote: Squash & Winstrol & 30 years of age. Good luck with your joints & tendons

That's going to be a nightmare. Plus the cardio killing effect of tren with the increased blood pressure and heart rate :pinch: .

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Nightwolf85
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10 Sep 2014 05:04 #174322 by Nightwolf85

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Hey Oupa and MA, thanks for weighing in. What would you rather recommended? Anavar instead of winny. And maybe Equi or Masteron instead of tren?

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Nightwolf85
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10 Sep 2014 06:57 #174324 by Nightwolf85

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New idea...

Cycle:

Wk1 - 12 : Equipoise @ 500mg/w
Wk1 - 12 : Sustenon @ 750mg/w
Wk 1 - 12: masteron @ 500mg/w
Wk 6 -12: anavar @ 75mg/d

Pct: liv52, clomid/nolva, milk thistle
Ai: aromasin/arimidex

What do you guys think?

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Fakey_AK
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10 Sep 2014 07:03 #174325 by Fakey_AK

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Morning bud

What's your cycle history?

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Nightwolf85
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10 Sep 2014 07:58 #174329 by Nightwolf85

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Hey Fakey.

About a year ago I had not read up on any gear and a gym bro suggested doing dbol. So thats the only experience I have. Did a dbol only cycle. Had no idea. So thats why I came here to read and to plan a good cycle with help from guys in the know.

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Rhino
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10 Sep 2014 08:11 #174330 by Rhino

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Bud if you've only done a dbol cycle adding all those other compounds will be an absolute waist. You will grow like a weed with the beginner bulking cycle plus you want to find out how you react to test before you start adding all that other stuff.

Go big or go home...

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Oupa
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10 Sep 2014 08:14 #174331 by Oupa

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Run a test & equi cycle. It will be great for your activities and goals. You can bridge with var for 6 weeks before pct

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Nightwolf85
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10 Sep 2014 08:17 #174332 by Nightwolf85

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Thank you Rhino and Oupa. Would you recommend test and equi for 12 weeks followed by var for 6? Then pct with clomid and nolva and ai during with small dose of aromasin?

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Fakey_AK
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10 Sep 2014 08:28 #174334 by Fakey_AK

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I'd also just go for a simple test only cycle for 10 weeks + var bridge.

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Nightwolf85
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15 Sep 2014 06:53 #174499 by Nightwolf85

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Just a quick update...

Order has been placed, and decided on the following...

Cycle:

Week 1-10: Sust 250 x 2 e3d
Week 7-12: var 50 ed
Week 12- : fof ed

Pct:

Week 13-17: clomid 60/40/40/20
Week 17-21: nolva 40/40/20/20

Aromasin on hand...

Any advice? Will be taking before pics and posting a log once I get my gear.

Thank you admin for all the help.

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Rhino
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15 Sep 2014 07:49 #174502 by Rhino

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You need to get some HCG and run it 250mcg Mondays and Thursdays on cycle to keep your balls functioning also if possible run the Sus for 12 weeks because it takes a while to kick in and pinning Twice a week(Mondays and Thursdays) would be fine with Sus.

Go big or go home...

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Oupa
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15 Sep 2014 10:31 #174514 by Oupa

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Good cycle and follow Rhino's advice.

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Nightwolf85
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15 Sep 2014 12:45 #174529 by Nightwolf85

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Thanks Oupa and Rhino, will do... putting order in.

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Mr T1984
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22 Sep 2014 14:47 #175009 by Mr T1984

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Listen i have done it all as a Gym rat and taken some silly advice and didnt do enough reading.

I personally think if its your first cycle rather go simple less complicated, this way you can get a gauge of how the gear will react to your body and if you are getting the desired effects.

personally and im no expert but i have run a few cycles, if this is your first time then maybe try something simple like the following

D bol 40 mg week 1 - 4
Test cyp 500mg 1 - 11

the run the PCT 2 as per the stickies

personal opinion before stacking multiple gear know how the chemistry works.

must be honest after reading a few hundred threads to this day things can get very confusing.

if you look for aesthetics then keep it simple.

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Nightwolf85
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22 Sep 2014 14:57 #175012 by Nightwolf85

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Hey Mr T... Thanks for the input, since i started this topic i have learned alot, and will be doing a Sust and Var cycle, thus keeping it very simple. Thanks for your concern. Have a great day.

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Nightwolf85
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22 Sep 2014 15:07 #175014 by Nightwolf85

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Hey Rhino... i can get hCG 5000ui with SABAX water and a 2ml vail... how do i dilute it to get to 250ui per 1ml injection? Sorry if this is a really stupid question... i have to learn somewhere.

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