1st cycle plan 2015

hi
I decided to purchase all my gear, all which expires in 2016.

stats
159cm
23 years
54kg
bf-15percent (it's an estimate)

so far I was planning beginner bulk cycle.
this is what I have on stock atm..

3x pgw test cyp 250mg
1x Kiefie winstrol 10mg 100tabs
1x tbol (axio)(50tabs)-got it almost for free so I took it
3x evolve 25tabs 25mg proviron
1x 25mg proviron 10tabs (don't know the brand)


1x adex 10tabs on hand

pct
1x 25tabs nolvadex 20mg (evolve)
1x 2Otabs clomid 50mg (evolve)

I was planning..

week 1-12 - test cyp
bridge with winstrol weeks 12-until pct

pct 1(I was told I'm getting 30tabs on the nolvadex but only received 25.
how should it be set out.. can I mix it with my older axio nolvadex?

where can I start my proviron as I only have 85 tabs at 25mg
I also have Kiefie hcg but it's expired in 12/2013 (will this be a problem)

any thoughts on correcting this or adding the tbol as a kick start?

cycle history
dbol only
Superdrol only
anap only with proper pct all a while ago..

I just checked the beginners bulking cycle. Why don't you just follow it exactly?

honestly I'm bit keen on the dbol plus I got the tbol.. And I want to try the winstrol..
Plus I already have it all..
I don't have to take the tbol.. I can always keep it for next time..

so if I do just the test.. can it look like this

week 1-12 - test cyp
bridge with winny
Howmuch mg proviron should I take per day..25mg fine?
hcg during cycle.. from week 5 onwards?

follow pct 1..

adex on hand..

and regarding the nolvadex taking my evolve one and the 5 axio one.. is this fine?

I'm just planning this so I can get it correct when I start..

Use the Tbol for a kick start if you've already got it, Ye and mixing brands of Nolva is fine.
Personally I've never noticed any benafite in adding Proviron(I think it's an over priced waist) but some swear by it.

Hay rhino

What about in the bridge ? Do you feel that adding proviron to the winni in the bridge is still a waist??

Go for it you've got nothing to loose only gain.Like I said a lot of people swear by the use of Proviron. I personally don't feel any benefits and would rather spend the cash on something else.

tanx for the reply

so my cycle is going to look like this

week 1-12 - test cyp
week 1-3 - tbol
week 5-pct - hcg
week 12- 17 - winny

then pct 1 from week 17 onwards

adex on hand
proviron I'll add in from mid cycle to end of pct at 50mg a day

hopefully when I start I'll open a thread..
thank you

You stop the Proviron before you pct. It's still a steroid and will hamper your recovery.

tanx..will take it till the bridge period and plan it to stop a week or 2 before pct begins

smally99 wrote: tanx for the reply

so my cycle is going to look like this

week 1-12 - test cyp
week 1-3 - tbol
week 5-pct - hcg
week 12- 17 - winny

then pct 1 from week 17 onwards

adex on hand
proviron I'll add in from mid cycle to end of pct at 50mg a day

hopefully when I start I'll open a thread..
thank you

Looking good

I'm going to do one very similar to this one.

Week 1 - 12 Test Cyp - twice a week (Sunday and Wednesday) + Proviron 50mg ED
Week 1 - 4.5 (25 days) - TBol 40mg ED
Week 8 - PCT - HCG EOD
Week 13 - 16.5 (25 Days) - Winny 40mg ED + Proviron 50mg ED
Week 17 - 21 - PCT (HCG+Clomid+Nolvadex)

tanx man.. When you plan to start? will this be your first cycle?

sorry seen this is not your first cycle..ignore the question..

smally99 wrote: tanx man.. When you plan to start? will this be your first cycle?

Lol. :lol:

I'm planning on starting March or April. Depends on when funds allow me to start. I don't have any of the gear yet.

When are you starting? Sorry if I'm asking a question that's been stated before on the thread.

January 5.. still doing some searching on injecting myself and watching YouTube videos etc.. if you have any good videos that explain it well please share.. no wifi so I'm limited in watching and searching lol..
lots of different approaches on the videos I've Watched.

I've watched some as well. The guys seem crazy though. a Buddy of mine said he tried it and freaked himself out too much and couldn't do it. Guess it depends from person to person.

Try and get someone to help you with it. My girl does mine. I'm sure a friend in your gym would help you.

I have a guy but I know I can't rely on him every Monday and Thursday to be there to inject me.. so need to learn myself first..

To buy list

B12
1" 23G needles
3ml syringe
swabs

Sit on the loo or bed, withdraw the b12, change the needle to a new one, make sure there is no bubbles in the syringe/needle cap, swab your quad or delt, wait a few seconds.. 20 will do. pray to god, stop being a pussy, smile and put the needle in your leg. inject slowly and post here (it was kak easy)

good luck

tanx Oupa..that's exactly what I needed.. will try that out..

so I started my test course..
Oupa, it was kak easy,I hardly felt a thing..and altho I'm not doing it myself..
I have a friend to do it for me..
And I removed the tbol.. I'm doing :

test cyp 1-12
winstrol through the bridge
and then pct 1
and hcg from week 5

Looks good Bro!
Keep a log man, and best of luck!
Train hard and eat well...

Nice bud.

I'm starting in Feb.

Weeks:

1 - 14: Test Cyp
1 - 3.5 Winstrol
Winny on bridge again with HCG
and pct 2

good luck man..
keen to see your results..

I have a question..
I have 85 tablets of proviron at 25mg each which gives me 42.5 days.. when will the best time for me to add them in?

As late as possible. The most important is to run the Proviron with the Winstrol.

Smally, hows your cycle going?

going great..
week 2 of pinning started last night..
up 1kg already.. I'm feeling good..
and I don't know if it's in my head but I'm lifting heavy already..
I'm pinning in the shoulder with 23g needle.. no pain but a small prik..
I'm looking slightly fuller..
I'm going to post my diet next week..
just want to get through this weekend's wedding then I'll be free..


I have one question.. is it best to train heavy.. light or moderate..?
at this moment I'm doing heavy to moderate between 6-12reps..