Kraalvoer - First Cycle and Log

I am a newbie although being a lurker for some time... :evil:

A brief intro:

I have been training since 2010 but unfortunately it was not very focused and made a decision during 2014 that I need to get results or take up something else; i.e. beer drinking and watching soaps. So, I got some help and started focusing on nutrition and training.

My stats:
Age: 40
Height: 1.83m
Sex: Yes & Male
BF: Started +- 22% in 2014, currently 8-9%
Mass: 93kg in 2014, currently 91kg
Previous Cycles: only bicycle and motorcycle :whistle:

Nutrition:
Upon awakening. 5g BCAA 5g L Glutamine
MEAL 1 1/2 cup raw oats, 30g whey protein, 6 egg whites, 1tbs natural peanut butter, Multivit, 1g CLA, 1g Flax
MEAL 2 1 tin tuna or 150g hake, 1 medium boiled potato - cold
MEAL 3 250g Chicken fillet 1 boiled medium potato or 150g cooked weight basmati rice 150g mixed salad or mixed veggies
MEAL 4 150ml fat/sugar free yoghurt, 30g whey, 1 fruit
MEAL 5 250-300g lean steak, 150g broccoli, baby marrows or gem squash
Late night snack 2 rice cakes with 1 teaspoon peanut butter 1g CLA, 1g Flax, 30g whey,5g BCAA 5g L Glutamine

Pre-workout: 10g BCAA 10g L Glutamine
Post-workout: 5g Creatine EE 30g Protein 75g Hyperbolic mass (mostly simple sugars (dextrose, fructose, lactose, maltotriose mix))

Water intake >3l per day
Coffee/Espresso: 2+2
No additional sugar
Little Himalaya salt

Maintenance Calories: 3065kCal
Meal plan calculated calories Approx: 3100kCal (40:35:25, Protein:Carbs:Fat)

Training:
Typical 5 day resistance training split routine (45min to 1 hour) with 25min cardio

Goals:
Maintain bf% at 7-8%
Physique: Physique to Classic

Cycle and goal:
Get a bit more mass on the bones and cut for definition. Do not intent to be monster size.

10 Week Dbol & Test cycle: Started on 14 Feb

Wk 1-10 250mg Test E 2x wk
Wk 1-4 30mg Dbol (split 20 + 10mg) pd
Wk 5 to start of PCT 250IU hCG 2xwk
Wk 11-14 Bridge starts 4 days after last Test E pin, stops 2 days before PCT, 30mg Winstrol pd, 40mg Proviron pd
PCT starts 30 days after last Test E pin:
14 days 50mg Clomid pd, then
30 days 20mg Nolvadex pd

Arimidex is on hand should it be needed for sides.

I intend to keep a weekly log on the forum to share the experience. It was really hard to find a log that indicated what was experienced and the final results.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers

Hey man

nice and informative post!

1. Why the hyperbolic mass shake? maybe just change that out for about 50g whey and better quality carbs like Vitargo or a 50/50 mix of Maltodextrin and Dextrose. Fructose is a really crappy sugar on its own, except if you are getting it directly from the whole fruit.

2. Maybe bump up the Dbol abit to 40/50mg per day, depending on how you react to it.

Other than that it looks good! keep updating

Thanks for the feedback. Should I give the 30mg Dbol a chance for two weeks before perhaps changing to 40mg, depending if there are sides?

BTW I forgot to mention that with the orals I am taking Cruciale 3x pd and Milk Thistle 2x pd.

Cheers

Your 90+ KG's so start with 40mg dbols. If you can, extend your cycle to 12 weeks on test. Also up your bridge Winstrol dose to 50mg and start the bridge 2 weeks earlier while still on the last 2 weeks of test.

If you can afford it, run the proviron throughout your cycle 40mg ED

Dankie Oupa,

All comments are noted. Your suggestion about running the Proviron throughout the cycle... is the focus to use its anti-estrogenic properties or is there another reason? Would 25mg ed be beneficial or a waste? If considering costs?

the Proviron lowers SHBG it allows for more total testosterone to become bioavailable. And yes proviron is also a nice anti estrogen, it prevents the formation of estrogen so the chances of rebound later are a lot less.

If you can stick to the 40mg Oupa suggested

Demolish wrote: the Proviron lowers SHBG it allows for more total testosterone to become bioavailable. And yes proviron is also a nice anti estrogen, it prevents the formation of estrogen so the chances of rebound later are a lot less.

If you can stick to the 40mg Oupa suggested

What he said

Ok, so far all is going good. Had my second shot of Test yesterday and is on 40mg Dbol. Nutrition is going well as well as water consumption. Actually I am very thirsty! Cannot say that I feel any sides yet, although it is early days and it is said that from week 2 one should see all "kick" in. I think muscle pump is up already but my training programme has changed also this week so imagination could play a role in it.
Weight 92.2kg (90.8kg start on Sunday) 5 days in
BP fine at 74/129

Cheers

if you get lower back pumps from the dbol, try some taurine

Quick update...
Had 3rd pin of Test on Sunday. Injection area is a bit sensitive. All is going well. BP is still good, BF% has stayed constant the last two weeks, LBM is up approx 3kg. I definitely noticed that recovery rate after training has increased; very nice!

Good all in all.
Cheers

Glute has been sensitive for 3 days after shot. I understand this is normal. There is no swelling or redness. Today it is almost back to normal. Otherwise, all is good. Water consumption is still higher than normal. Approx 4 litres per day min.

yeah that's part of it, you will get used to it after a while. keep it up

Going into week 3. Body weight up to 94kg. Training going well, recovery is very good. Seems that I have an increased appetite since last week. Had 5th pin on Sunday, halfway with the Dbol duration. Butt is still sore because of test shot. Will start with Proviron this week. There is a bit of water retention but not too serious. Skin has changed by being more oily, which was expected. All is actually good currently.

Update...
Week 3 ended on Sunday.
Stats:
Weight 95.2kg
BF% 8.3%
Blood pressure 130/78
No serious sides. Very little to be honest. Slight water retention and that's all.
Recovery is excellent and strength has definitely improved.

Last week of Dbol @40mg, on 25mg Proviron and still 500mg Test E per week.

Cheers

looking good man, did you do before cycle photos ?

I have some of a couple of months back. I was planning to, but yes... I'll try and keep some from now on...

A quick question... is there any advantage or recommendation to increase the dosage of Dbol at this stage, based on my experience thus far? Or do I keep with the 40mg to the end of the week? Just wondering. I know "if a little is good, more is not necessarily better". Comments please.
Cheers

Stay on the 40mg dbol

Update end week 4. Weight is currently 96kg. All is good. Blood pressure is fine at 128/74. Will start taking hcg twice this week. No sides to report. Great training sessions and love the recovery afterwards. Really feeling good. The pinning is also not that sensitive anymore. Maybe I am getting better with the technique . A third of the cycle is completed already. Time flies when having fun.
Cheers

Are you sure your gear is legit with that blood pressure lol

Does it sound strange? I did a verification of the unique number on the packet and it checked out. Any other way to check?

To be honest I did not see any change in BP at all!
Cheers

Its very strange that your BP didn't change and is sitting at those readings while on gear.

In your experience will test alone also increase BP? How could one tell if my meds are actually legit? It came from a supplier that has been promoted by quite a few individuals competing and it is also one of the known brands? Could it be under dosed perhaps? What is your view on the weight gains thus far? Can it possibly be only due to the test?
Thanks

Apologies for being so slack to post experiences... don't even want to start to make excuses, but life happens

The Dbol part went well and ended at week 4. I did start noticing some back pump the last week. That was really uncomfortable. Blood pressure stayed nice and healthy all along.

So currently at week 9 and still on 500mg Test-E, 500iu hcg p/w and 50mg Proviron daily. No sides to report back on. Up to now this cycle has treated me well! I especially love the fast recuperation after training. Really wished it could always be like this!

Current stats:
Weight 96.2kg
BF 7.3%

Cheers

Today is the last pin of Test-E... start of bridging with 50mg Winnie. All good still. Had a check-in on Saturday with weight sitting at 97.3kg. Up to date the gains are about 8kg lean body mass! Body fat has also dropped from 8.6 to 6.5%. I am really happy with the results. This was at the beginning of week 12.

Cheers