8 week cycle??

Hey guys,

My first post on the forum.

My Stats: Male
Age 29
Height 1.87
Weight 91-92
Bf : estimating below 10% (all 6 abs clearly vissable with veins on V-line and bottom 2)

Cycle history
1st Cycle: Beginner Bulk on sample section with a bridge of winstrol
2nd Cycle : Test E 600mg a week for 10 weeks, kickstart with T bol 30mg a day and bridged with Winstrol 40mg a day. Pct was Clomid and Nolvadex and ran Hcg on cycle at 500ui per week.

Results on the first cycle was awsome and made a huge transformation, 2nd Cycle I had good gains nothing compared to the first and kept a lot after the PCT. Waiting period after first cycle PCT and 2nd Cycle start was 4 months.

Now keeping my current stats in mind it's time for my 3rd Cycle. The problem I've got is this time round I've got 8 weeks where I can cycle not including bridge and PCT. Going on holiday and want to do a cycle before going on holiday. I dont have anything specific in mind and I'm open for suggestions. My goals: Make solid gains while staying as lean and ripped as possible. My diet has been solid and on point ever since I started with the first cycle.( Hitting calories and keeping it clean)

Want to run Test Cyp as a base and considered some Tren this time round. Dont know if I can kick or bridge with it or even use at all, and what other compounds will help in this cycle. I would really appreciate some help with this cycle.

Regards,
Mr Plankton.

Test Prop and Anavar ?

If you say you have 8 weeks to cycle I would say consider the following:

*Test prop & anavar like 00pump suggested
*Test prop & tren Ace is nice especially if you want to stay lean and ripped - I saw veins on it that I never knew I had!
*Test prop & NPP is a real great one to go to, will pick up more size but its more bulky/bloaty because of the NPP- BUT if you are already so lean and eat clean with a great diet I think you will see great results.

And if you can't make up your mind just run test prop - Nice and plain, not too many worries.

The Prop and Anavar sounds good. My thoughts on dosage would be:
Prop @150 mg eod for 8 weeks
Anavar 60/80mg a day for 6 weeks
Pct ? (Clomid and Nolvadex)
Hcg from week one to week 8?
Please give advice and input as I am no expert yet. I read up as much as I can to broaden my knowledge and understanding.

Regards,
Mr Plankton

That sounds good to me concerning dosages and time. PCT i personally don't think HcG is necessary but the Chlomid & Nolva is. Maybe letro on hand for gyno.

Otherwise that sounds good and like a nice basic, yet proper cycle and also more safe.

Thanks for the reply. Ive got Aromasin and Arimidex on hand for gyno. Gyno hasnt been an issue this far, but rather prepared. Would like to get more input on the HCG though.

Do I start the Anavar on 60mg and then bump it up to 80mg or what would be ideal for my body weight?

Thanks,
Mr Plankton

As far as I understand HcG is mostly only necessary with your more hectic cycles where you start adding more things to the cycle. But I think it might not be a bad idea to run the HcG as well in order to assure yourself with a proper recovery, someone correct me in anything i'm saying here if it's wrong please!

I think that is all up to you bud whether to start on 60 or 80 mg. With orals I usually take the higher dose from day 1 through to the end (except with clen) but a lot of people also like to start their dosages lower and then build up to the max dosage. This will also assure that the sides aren't too harsh when starting on a high dosage, but then again Anavar is considered as one of the safest steroids so I think 80mg would be fine to start with.

Any mods opinions on the HCG and the rest of the cycle planning?

Thanks

Anything more than An oral only cycle you need to add HCG. Testosterone also shuts you down completely so you need PCT 2 as a minimum.

Thats how I understand it as well. So would I run it from day 1 untill 14 days after my last prop injection and then start with my PCT? (Clomid and Nolvadex PCT2)

Either use HCG on cycle from week 2 til 1 or 2days pre Clomid and then Nolvadex or use as per PCT 2

Thanks Rooibul, will go with the first option. Run it on cycle and then do the clomid and nolva. Should I run the Anavar for only 6 weeks or could I go for the full8 weeks?

8 no problem but use Essential Extreme whole cycle and PCT and 4weeks post pct

How many weeks is this cycle planned for?

8 weeks oups not including the pct. week 1-8 Test prop @150mg eod and var 60-80mg week 1-8 then 14 days after last prop injection start pct 2. Hcg on cycle

You can't use 80mg Var for 8weeks...

Rooibul, in your previous post you suggested it would be ok for 8 weeks,(or as I understood it). Not a problem buds, would 60mg for 6 weeks be fine then? Or should I lower dosage to 60mg?

Thanks,
Mr Plankton

60mg for 8weeks with liver protection. Or 80mg for 6weeks with liver protection.

Rooibul, thanks buddy. Understood. Usually I make use of ONE Cycle support. Would that be sufficient or should I take some essentiale extreme alongside the cycle support? Sorry about all the questions.

I would go with both if you can afford it. If you can not afford both then run Essentiale Extreme. Rember entire cycle and past PCT

Thanks Rooi Bul. Much appreciated

One cycle support has Milk Thistle in doesnt it?

I checked now Oupa it does contain Milk Thistle 500mg 80% pure extract per serving.

I have heard some say it makes a cycle less effective how so? Interrupting IGF-1 in the liver?

Plankton I did some searching. I also learned now from your question and from Oupa.
The Milk Thistle interferes with the IGF-1 that increases when taking orals. It also interferes with the binding to the androgen receptor so it interferes with gains actually reducing it making your cycle less effective.

So run the Essential Extreme rather.

Thanks Rooibul and oups. Then I'll do it like that.