Pump's Intermediate lean mass and strength cycle

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06 Aug 2017 15:37 #211592 by Spazzz
Good day all

I will be doing a "Pump's Intermediate lean mass and strength cycle' shortly. This will be the 2nd time I do this one, as I have seen great results. I want to add some quality muscle and get the strength I need.

My stats:

Length - 1.87m
Weight - 84kg
BF - 12%

Cycle:

*Week 1 – 6 = Tbol Frontload @ 40mg ED
*Week 1 – 12 = Test E @ 500mg weekly (2x 250mg per week)
*Week 1 – 18 = Proviron @40mg ED (still deciding on this one)
*Week 1 - 18 - Primo @ 400mg weekly (2x 200mg per week with the Test E)
*Week 13 – 18 = Anavar at 60mg ED
*Week 19 - 23 = PCT 3 as per the sample cycles section
*HCG from week 4 @ 500iu weekly (2x 250iu per week)
*Arimidex on standby for gyno symptoms

Diet:

Meal 1
*50g oats (raw weight) - I mix in some sunflower and pumpkin seeds with cinnamon, and teaspoon almond/peanut butter
6 egg whites and 1 whole egg
1x Banana

Meal 2
150g Hake
2x slice pineapple
1x Rice cake with teaspoon peanut/almond butter

Meal 3
200g Chicken breast
50g Broccoli
Half an avo

Meal 4
1x Tin tuna
Mix greens (lettuce, cucumber)

Meal 5
250g Steak
Mix greens (lettuce, cucumber)

Meal 6
6 Egg whites

Vitamins:

Omega 3 & 6, Vit C & D, Zinc, Magnesium, Essential

Questions:

1 - I struggled with the small balls in my previous cycle, can I up the dose of the HCG in cycle, and by how much?
2 - How would you rate my diet? Maybe add in some basmati/sweet potato somewhere?
3 - If I want to add HGH to my cycle, what recommended dose would be advised, and the frequency? (Fillet - you gave me advice in a previous post, but want to confirm this to be sure)

Thank you :-)

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07 Aug 2017 12:23 #211607 by FIllet
Don't overdo the HCG, your compounds are not overly hectic - lets see as we go. Let us know around week 5 - 7. We can take it from there...

GH just for the cycle duration? Waste of time IMO. GH never short of 9 months to see good benefits.
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07 Aug 2017 18:16 #211616 by FIllet
If your cholesterol is in check 200g sweet potato, 200g chicken liver done in olive oil. Extra meal for mass.

Hcg at 750 international units is fine if you not gyno prone, are you?

Shoot some b12, better than all the others.
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07 Aug 2017 18:42 #211617 by Spazzz
Thx Fillet

Thx for the diet tip - cholesterol is fine at the moment

With my last cycle i took adex when nipples got itchy, but cleared quickly. But really scared my balls will be non-existent again after 3 weeks into the cycle ;) ;)

Do u say then hcg @ 250iu x3times a week?

And i have the HGH stock as well... how would u take that.

Thx bro and I appreciate your help and guidance

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07 Aug 2017 18:51 #211618 by FIllet
Relax bud, good old days they would shoot up 5000iu one shot, fucking with fire Bru. 750 you good.

How much gh you got? More importantly what brand?
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07 Aug 2017 19:38 #211620 by Spazzz
Hehe thx bro!

I have Syntropin. 10iu x 10vials. I will get more if need be
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07 Aug 2017 19:59 - 07 Aug 2017 20:00 #211621 by FIllet
Far from what you need bud.100iu will do you no good. If expire date is good save it, you need 5 iu daily for duration I mentioned. Seriously, tried and tested.
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07 Aug 2017 20:03 #211622 by Rooi Bul 86
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Howzit Big Fillet.

Could he get away with 4iu GH per day?

It is on you. It always has been...

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08 Aug 2017 05:35 #211626 by FIllet
Sure strong RB, 2 in the morning 2 at night.
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26 Aug 2017 11:38 #212265 by Spazzz
Hey Fillet

I got another shipment of the HGH, so im giving it a go when my cycle starts on monday, as per the above. Would you suggest I start the HGH also from day 1 with my test, primo and tbol?

Thx bro!!

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26 Aug 2017 18:00 #212271 by FIllet
Yes I would but "shipment" means nothing for me. How much you got in total big guy? I buy an entire cycle with ancillaries upfront.
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26 Aug 2017 21:47 #212279 by Spazzz
Thx Fillet! I got another 100iu. So have 200iu now. Will again buy 200iu next month to ensure i have enough throughout the cycle by ordering every month. The rest of my cycle above i have everything!

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27 Aug 2017 07:29 #212286 by FIllet
Run your hgh into your pct, you will be surprised how it helps with recovery and maintaining muscle. Only if you use it from get go since build up of gh takes a while.
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27 Aug 2017 08:51 #212289 by Spazzz
Awesome thx Fillet!!

Last question - so i can pin 2iu before work every morning, and then 2iu late afternoon? I read alot of different opinions, but would want to go with your recommendation. Keeping in mind that i will also pin 3x 250iu hcg per week, starting around week 3 or 4

Thx my bro, appreciate your help and insight!!

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27 Aug 2017 09:54 #212290 by FIllet
2 as u wake and 2 close to bed. Don't get overly excited about your timing.hcg you can pin when u like, I normally only have time in the night. Don't add your hcg to your gh. Two separate pins.
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30 Aug 2017 09:44 #212389 by Spazzz
Thx for all your help Fillet, much appreciated!!

Did my 1st pin of the hgh last night.. 10iu with the 2ml water, if i take 2iu x2 daily gives me 0.4ml per pin. Just checking my maths here ;)

I woke up with a headache thats still not under control, but i know its a side effect maybe due to the blood pressure elevation. Just hope it wont be like this during the use of the hgh. Started on monday with the test and tbol and all good so far.

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30 Aug 2017 09:50 #212390 by 00pump
Use a high dose of hawthorn berry in the meantime to control your BP, it works quick but doesn't stay effective for long, so multiple doses a day...

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30 Aug 2017 11:28 #212393 by Spazzz
Thx Pump!

And any opinions/suggestions on my diet in the 1st post would be highly appreciated!! ;)

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30 Aug 2017 11:40 #212396 by 00pump

Spazzz wrote: Thx Pump!

And any opinions/suggestions on my diet in the 1st post would be highly appreciated!! ;)


No, as I don't feel like going to calculate all that, lol...

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30 Aug 2017 11:51 #212397 by Hoosain

00pump wrote:

Spazzz wrote: Thx Pump!

And any opinions/suggestions on my diet in the 1st post would be highly appreciated!! ;)


No, as I don't feel like going to calculate all that, lol...


hahaha... sometimes honesty is the best policy

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30 Aug 2017 12:54 #212398 by Spazzz
Heheh ok true that :)

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05 Sep 2017 13:57 #212517 by Empire
Hey bro, as requested.

Your calories are too low, i wouldn't count the calories in veggies and also start measuring out the weight of your fruit, also where are your post work out carbs? If i was you i would be aiming around 2300-2700 calories daily. Making sure your protein is divided equally through out the day. Substitute the carbs from veggies for proper complex carbs. Also how much is half an avo? Is it the avo the size of a golf ball or a rugby ball?
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05 Sep 2017 14:11 #212519 by Spazzz
Awesome thx bro!!

Did a calculation on a tool a member posted some time back, and got to 1490 calories per day.. way to low!! Will add some rice/sweet potato to my meals. The avos are about hand palm size, so i split in 2 then. I was scared to gain more fat if i increase the carbs. Do u recon oats is good for post workout?

Much appreciated Empire!!
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03 Oct 2017 07:24 #212915 by Spazzz
Hi gents

Just a checkin regarding my cycle..

In week 6 now and all going well. Strenth and lean mass coming on nicely! Only symptom is my balls shrinking since last week, so i will up my hcg to 250iu x 3 from this week. Also no gyno, i believe the proviron is enough to keep it from flaring.

Question - i know your balls will shrink on cycle, but with the hcg, are my balls supposed to get bigger again, or just help with the recovery?

Thx and you all have a blessed day!

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