Ana-test-win cycle please comment

Awsum site not new to gear but need some comments or advice on improving / carrying out my cycle:

Stats: age: 25, weight- 105kg, height- 185cm, bf%- 13
My diet is in order and this is my second cycle goals are- 4kg+ lean muscle and as much fat loss as possible. i have done these test and anavar quantities in the past and dont want to change them.
Basically want comments on my ending/ length, liver protection and dosage of clen.

Cycle:
Letro- .25mg ed
Test Prop- 150mg eod, week 1-7
Test Prop- 100mg eod, week 8
Anavar- 60mg ed, week 1-10
Winstrol oral- 20mg Every 2nd Day, week 9 & 10
Clen- 1st 2 weeks PCT

PCT:
Pregnyl- 6x 500iu shots over weeks 9, 10 & 11
kesser- 40mg ed, week 11
kesser- 20mg ed, week 12 & 13

Peace.

Why don't you run your Test at the same dose from week 1 - 8?
Winstrol orals you need to take everyday, at least 30mg per day.
Pregnyl 500 IU three times per week for three weeks.
Run Kessar week 11 - 14

Did that on my last cycle 150mg week 1-8, felt quite a down wen i stopped even though stil on the anavar. Friend reccomended dropping the dose by a third in the last week.
Livers and joints will be put under pressure on that winstrol dose surely, i do alot of impact training (mma & rugby) and lots of cardio. Cant afford such sides. will 30mg cause anything? liver protection?
My pct worked very well last time is there any reason to change it?
Thanks for the tips miltuds

PCT: If it ain't broke don't fix it

Winstrol should be fine on that dose, just get yourself some joint support like Arthro Guard. I usually take double the recommended dose of it.

Also make sure you're getting enough flax-seed oil. 3 - 6 grams per day.
Liver: Use Milk Thistle and Essentiale and plenty of water. You'll need cranberry extract as well.

Mr Moose wrote:

Basically want comments on my ending/ length, liver protection and dosage of clen.

Start cycling clen with a starting dose of 40 mcg a day and build it up to approximately 100mcg/day (or a lower dose that you are comfortable with/able to tolerate)

Milktuds:
When do i start tking the- flax seed oil, milk thistle, essentiale and cranberry extract?? and how much of those??

Beesting: is the placement of my clen good?? ur idea of building up sounds good, think il go to 80mcg scared of the combo with the cardio.

thanks for tips

Yeah its good because Clen is supposed to have anabolic properties. Im not sure about what you said but are you only taking clen for two weeks or are you cycling it during ur PCT

Flax seed oil, milk thistle, essentiale and cranberry from beginning till end
Flax seed: 3000 - 6000 mg per day
Milk Thistle: depends which brand, take 2 - 4 capsules per day
Essentiale: I usually take six caps per day
Natrodale Cranberry extract: 1 - 2 caps per day

For your weight I'd try to get in between 4 - 6 L water per day

You can take the Clen after your cardio if you struggle with breathing

Oh ya and do you think ive placed my pregnyl over the correct 3 weeks??

Also if you are scared of taking the clen with the cardio you can take it after cardio as milktuds suggested. Clen will raise your body temperature as well as your heart rate so if you combine it with cardio then keep the cardio intensity constant and low/moderate (but not high intensity)

Thanks Milktuds so that covers all the bases:

Beesting i am only using the clen for the first two weeks of my PCT: gonna build as follows
day 1-2: 30mcg
day 3-4: 50mcg
day 5-6: 70mcg
day 7-14: 80mcg

May I ask why you are only using clen for two weeks?

Oh yeah you should add Saw palmetto for your prostate. Use as directed

Just to keep anabolic and to harden up/ expose my gains more>

Mr Moose wrote:

Oh ya and do you think ive placed my pregnyl over the correct 3 weeks??

Looks fine

Okay then, I just dont think that doing two weeks only is going to keep you anabolic

Surley it will help keep you anabolic- maybe not on a huge level but enough to complete a cycle without 2 much haste, ensuring permanent gains??
Thanks for the tips aswel beesting

Oh ya and milktuds wen do i take all those things, as in when during the day??

Yes it will keep you anabolic enough to complete the cycle. Just thought you would want to stay anabolic afer your PCT as well. Anyways, good luck with your cycle

Mr Moose wrote:

Oh ya and milktuds wen do i take all those things, as in when during the day??

I usually take them morning/midday/afternoon.

You're taking a multivitamin as well right?
You can add 2000mg Vit C and E along with the other vits. I know it sounds like a lot of vitamins, but your body needs it.

Mr Moose wrote:

Awsum site not new to gear but need some comments or advice on improving / carrying out my cycle:

Stats: age: 25, weight- 105kg, height- 185cm, bf%- 13
My diet is in order and this is my second cycle goals are- 4kg+ lean muscle and as much fat loss as possible. i have done these test and anavar quantities in the past and dont want to change them.
Basically want comments on my ending/ length, liver protection and dosage of clen.

Cycle:
Letro- .25mg ed
Test Prop- 150mg eod, week 1-7
Test Prop- 100mg eod, week 8
Anavar- 60mg ed, week 1-10
Winstrol oral- 20mg Every 2nd Day, week 9 & 10
Clen- 1st 2 weeks PCT

PCT:
Pregnyl- 6x 500iu shots over weeks 9, 10 & 11
kesser- 40mg ed, week 11
kesser- 20mg ed, week 12 & 13

Peace.

ok has no one noticed the 10weeks of orals,rule of thumb of orals is 6 weeks never mind the joint pains u are going to get from the anavar as it does eat up body fat... i i suggest u run all your orals within 6weeks and then run your test prop at high doses in that same period of time...

I have run the Var before for this time period no issues: really only noticed the gains and strength after week 5+- really dont wanna drop it as low as 6?
Guess i am running winnie this time tho- maybe adapt the cycle and run for eight weeks?

Shot for all the help Milktuds peace man+

Beesting: thanks alot- outa interest how would you run the clen considering iam only gonna start it on the first day of PCT?

Cycle it two weeks on two weeks off. Minimum 6 weeks (including the weeks off, So two weeks on two weeks off then two weeks on again). Alternatively you can cycle it one week on, one week off for six-seven weeks.

Mr Moose wrote:

I have run the Var before for this time period no issues

The worry with the extended orals is liver strain. Everyone is different and each cycle can give different results with additional environmental factors. How did you check that there were no issue with your previous oral usage? Did you have some tests done on your liver?

Beesting: sounds good- but that's means iam running the clen during my whole pct and then about a week or so after?? then what?? surey u can't jus wean off and stop??

Inja: that's very true, no didn't hav tests just talking about how I felt, do u also advise just 6 weeks. as I said only started feeling the strength after 4/5 weeks.