1st Cycle Stack

Hey guys.

I started my first cycle today. Got pointed to this stack by a friend who has trained for a long time.

Want to know what you guys reckon:

Nomad Lab Deca 300
Nomad Lab Nomaviron 300
Testaject 200
Tribolin '75

Its all put into 5ml injection, up to 2ml full all of the above split 0.5ml. I took it today, 2 shots. On both sides of the shoulder. Taking twice a week. And is it a decent stack for mass?

Respeckta

2.5ml per shoulder good luck with that most people stuggle putting that into a quad

hey,

thanks for the reply. but I think I must have not explained properly
its 1ml in each shoulder. total of 2ml. well its the next day now and I have a bit of

pain on both sides where it went in. nothing over the top. but what do you think of the stack. also how do u rate I should come off? just pregnyl?

pregnyl clomid and kessar is a brilliant idea for pct,if u can afford it switch kessar for arimidex though

i 2nd that or try some of that letro that admin's cooking up.

In a pinch Kessar only
Then Kessar and HCG
Then Kessar , HCG , Clomid
Then Kessar, Armidex, HCG ,

A the combos are endless the money is always the deciding factor- chat to Netro- best advice at the best price:side:

I've done a lot of experimenting with Letro lately and I have to tell you that I will never do a PCT again without it.

It was proven that Letro can raise natural testosterone levels by up to 150% and believe me it is true. It achieves this by causing a positive feedback-loop relating to LH production ect. It does kill your sex drive, but that is only the case on doses higher than 1mg per day.

Because estrogen is part of the negative feedback loop of the HPTA, Letrozole (and other anti-estrogens) are able to raise testosterone in male subjects. Letrozole was studied in men, and found to significantly increase LH levels to a 339 and 323% in the young and the elderly, respectively and Testosterone by 146 and 99%, respectively. (3) Letrozole was also able to produce a peak LH response to Gonadatropin Releasing Hormone equal to a 152 and 52% increase from baseline in either young or older men, respectively (3). In a similar study 0.02 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 45% after 2 days.

Admin, how would you describe your perfect PCT/HCG protocol for a 14 week decca 350/ testen 600 cycle?

@ Admin ref. using an AI for PCT.

How long does it take before the positive feedback kicks in?
Would it help starting the AI before the end of the cycle to reduce estrogen so as external test drops, estrogen is already low?

admin wrote:

I've done a lot of experimenting with Letro lately and I have to tell you that I will never do a PCT again without it.

It was proven that Letro can raise natural testosterone levels by up to 150% and believe me it is true. It achieves this by causing a positive feedback-loop relating to LH production ect. It does kill your sex drive, but that is only the case on doses higher than 1mg per day.

Because estrogen is part of the negative feedback loop of the HPTA, Letrozole (and other anti-estrogens) are able to raise testosterone in male subjects. Letrozole was studied in men, and found to significantly increase LH levels to a 339 and 323% in the young and the elderly, respectively and Testosterone by 146 and 99%, respectively. (3) Letrozole was also able to produce a peak LH response to Gonadatropin Releasing Hormone equal to a 152 and 52% increase from baseline in either young or older men, respectively (3). In a similar study 0.02 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 45% after 2 days.

admin did u have any joint problems with the letro, some say it dry's out ones joint's?

Hey guys.

Just wanted to know if this is normal. I injected into my triceps on Friday and damn it was painful over the weekend it has only now worn off. I was pretty much paralyzed in pain.

I spoke to a friend and he said that it could be because of the nomaviron. But it never hurt in the shoulder so I don't get it. I was also recommended to get "Sweet Oil" to mix with it my stack to make it disperse better. All of these statements don't make sense.

I just want some clarification.

Shot.

Why do you need to inject your shoulders and tri-s you have quads and glutes for that. Offcourse its going to hurt in your tri-cep

LOL ok. I assume it's because its a a smaller muscle.. It soo insane the amount of contradictory information. I was told it would be fine awell, guess not. will stick to my glutes and quads then. Oh and since when are shoulders are no go? I heard they fine. I already had in my shoulder and it was all good.

well you heard that tricep was fine too and that information seemed to pay off.....if u are thinking site injections are gonna help u grow that muscle well then think again,if i am not mistaken i think someone said on the forum before that only short esters help with site growth...well why dont u take the information u heard from MxT and stick to glutes and quads...at least if it is painful u will still be able to raise your hand and give him the middle finger,with the shoulder shot i doubt u will be able to raise that hand...

If you are going to site inject, best stick to short esters and cutting compounds like winny and tren ace etc. Injecting a long ester in a small muscle group has no benefit IMO