Anavar Cycle

Good day all,

This is my first forum post and I would like to make it a memorable one.

I’m starting an Anavar cycle in two weeks and would like to get some opinions, insights and comments from the experienced forum members. Any advice would be appreciated!

Fists thing first –

STATS

Age 28
Height 1.85
Weight 82 kg (180 pounds)
Body fat 10 % (measured with calipers)

Training experience - Intensive weight training for 5/6 years, then focused on boxing only for about a year, back to weight training for almost two years now.

Goal – Want to look like a roadmap, a very muscular and vascular roadmap. Goal is to get to pick up 2/3kg and shed 2% bodyfat.

Training program – Day 1 – Shoulders/Back (Heavy low rep), Day 2 – Quads and Triceps, Day 3 - Chest & low intensity cardio, Day 4 – Shoulders/Back (Medium Rep range), Day 5 Hammies and Biceps, Day 6 High intensity bodyweight workout

Diet – High protein, moderate fat, low carb.

THE CYCLE

Week 1 & 2 – Anavar 40mg, Proviron 25mg, Creatine 10g, DAA 3g, ZMA, Cycle Support and Vits, WheyPro and Pre Workout
Week 3 to 6 - Anavar 60mg, Proviron 50mg, Creatine 10g, DAA 3g, ZMA, Cycle Support and Vits, WheyPro and Pre Workout

PCT

Week 7 – Clomid 50mg, Proviron 50mg, Creatine 10g, DAA 3g, ZMA, Cycle Support and Vits, WheyPro and Pre Workout
Week 8 - Proviron 50mg, Creatine 10g, DAA 3g, ZMA, Cycle Support and Vits, WheyPro and Pre Workout
Week 9 - Clomid 50mg, Creatine 10g, DAA 3g, ZMA, Cycle Support and Vits, WheyPro and Pre Workout
Week 10 - Creatine 10g, DAA 3g, ZMA, Cycle Support and Vits, WheyPro and Pre Workout

As stated, I’d appreciate any thoughts and suggestions.

Regards
Bamiam

I personally followed this cycle for Anavar + PCT and it worked a treat:

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/21-cycle-2

Slightly different to yours in terms of Proviron dosage and PCT.

Hi Bamiam
Here is the Chemical Structure:
The official molecular structure of Anavar is 5-alpha-androstan-2-oxa-17 alpha-methyl-17 beta-ol-3-one. When developing the formula, Raphael Pappo synthesized the drug deriving its molecular structure from dihydrotestosterone. The key difference is that an oxygen atom replaces the methylation and 2 carbon in the 17 position. Basically, Oxandrolone was intended to be a gentler Dianabol – more anabolic and less androgenic, thus eliminating many of the harsh side effects. This was accomplished by substituting oxygen for the other elements ordinarily present in dihydrotestosterone. Through this process, Pappo succeeded in creating a steroid that has one of the lowest rates of androgenicity among synthetic steroids.

I would suggest the following:
As with most oral steroids, Anavar is best stacked with at least one injectable. Just anavar and testosterone work very, very, well. After the cycle, it is recommended to use HCGenerate with a perfect PCT to solidify the gains made and to retain the muscle mass from a Test-Anavar cycle.

I would add a Test Cyp to the mix:
50mg - Anavar ED
400mg - Test Cyp per week.

Please make sure of your PCT treatment.

Thanks.

Looks pretty much on point. I also feel that the sweet spot for Var would be 80mg when not combined with a test.

I plan on keeping my first cycle back within the 6 week range. I'll definitely up the dose and increase the duration on my next cycle.

Hi Boltabolh,

Thanks for the input and the valuable background info man.

I will consider adding a test to run along the proposed cycle.

As for the PCT, would you consider adding Nolva along with Clomid and HCG if I choose to add test with the cycle.

If I stick to the Var and Proviron only cycle, would you consider clomid to be sufficient?

Thanks again guys.

PCT
This is my opinion and what I’ll suggest is running the clomit as you have stated in your previous post, but if signs of gyno / Weight loss start and your body are responding in a different way start the Nolva.

Nolva / Clomit:
Along with Nolvadex, Clomid is one of the two principal SERMs (selective estrogen receptor modulators) used for enhanced recovery of testosterone production after anabolic steroid cycles.

By occupying the binding site of estrogen receptors of a cell without activating them, Nolvadex prevents these receptors from being activated by estradiol. The cell then “thinks” that estradiol levels are very low, and responds accordingly.

Starting time of PCT:
It is important to start a PCT once you finished a steroid cycle to avoid a dramatic loss of the mass gained. The question on how soon to initiate a PCT depends on the kind of steroids you used. If your cycle is comprised of orals, which have relatively the shortest effect on the body, it is advised to start immediately. Some say PCT can begin as early as the last day of the steroid cycle. If short-acting esters or water-based injectables, PCT is recommended 4-7 days after the last injection. In the case of long-acting esters, it should be around 10-14 days after the last injection.

In both cases i'll have nolva on hand just in-case.....

Hope this helps

Nice post Bolt. +1

Boltabolh wrote: PCT
This is my opinion and what I’ll suggest is running the clomit as you have stated in your previous post, but if signs of gyno / Weight loss start and your body are responding in a different way start the Nolva.

Nolva / Clomit:
Along with Nolvadex, Clomid is one of the two principal SERMs (selective estrogen receptor modulators) used for enhanced recovery of testosterone production after anabolic steroid cycles.

By occupying the binding site of estrogen receptors of a cell without activating them, Nolvadex prevents these receptors from being activated by estradiol. The cell then “thinks” that estradiol levels are very low, and responds accordingly.

Starting time of PCT:
It is important to start a PCT once you finished a steroid cycle to avoid a dramatic loss of the mass gained. The question on how soon to initiate a PCT depends on the kind of steroids you used. If your cycle is comprised of orals, which have relatively the shortest effect on the body, it is advised to start immediately. Some say PCT can begin as early as the last day of the steroid cycle. If short-acting esters or water-based injectables, PCT is recommended 4-7 days after the last injection. In the case of long-acting esters, it should be around 10-14 days after the last injection.

In both cases i'll have nolva on hand just in-case.....

Hope this helps

Quoted 100% from Elitefitness.com

If you're going to copy and paste info don't make that it is your own. Give credit where credit is due even though the PCT timing is nonsense.

Same goes for your previous post which is also copy and pasted from another forum. Don't let it happen again...

+1 MA

Well spotted bud

My Apologies for the post that was copied.
Should have added the Author.

I'll post my own work and PCT understanding due to I do have my own private gym and assist guys with Diets ; supplements and work-out programs.

Boltabolh wrote: My Apologies for the post that was copied.
Should have added the Author.

I'll post my own work and PCT understanding due to I do have my own private gym and assist guys with Diets ; supplements and work-out programs.

Post Cycle Therapy
Clomit: Clomiphene Citrate / Serophene
Medically this is prescribed for Women with low fertility

Why use Clomit:
Androgens (Anabolic Steroids) cause inhibition of the body's own test production.
Coming off a steroids cycle, your natural testo production is low to zero and the steroid in your blood system is starting to fade away, so the catabolic ratios leave.

Anabolic hormones in the blood high, hence the body is in a state of catabolic and as a result much of the muscle gained will be lost.

Clomit in this case stimulates the hypothalamus in turn stimulant the anterior pituitary gland.
This causes the hormones to be stimulated.
This process is called HPTA (Hypothalamic pituitary test axis) and results are an increase of your body's own testo production.

This is very important to minimize post cycle muscle loss.

NB.Not all steroids causes shutdown, and that every person is different.
Doses and your term on the cycle will determine if clomit is needed or not.


One more thing on Clomit:
It is also an Anti-estrogen - Just a short look in to what that means.
Clomit is a weaker or should a say a low active synthetic estrogen and this estrogen binds with your receptor and blocks them.

This does not eliminate but minimize the side effects such as gynecomastia and water retention.
Result of estrogen that has aromatised from testo (Anabolic steroids).

Tip: If your are prone or pre-disposed to gynecomastia you should not rely on only clomit, and I would advise you to make use of:
Nolvadex / Arimidex.


When should I take clomit?
It’s all depended on your cycle of steroids that was taken.
Each steroid has its own half lives.

Here are some details:
These are only guide lines and research I have found.

Drug Time After last inj Cycle time of clomit
Anadrol 50mg 8 / 12 Hours 3Weeks
Equipoise 17/21 days 3Weeks
Deca Dura 3Weeks 3Weeks
Dinabol 4-8Hours 3Weeks
Testosterone Cyp/Ena 2Weeks 2-3Weeks


Hope this clears the air.

Boltabolh wrote: NB.Not all steroids causes shutdown, and that every person is different.

That's incorrect, all steroids cause shut down.

Well according to all info i have and studies have conducted and tested on my-self a must disagree with you.
But like i said this is my opinion and this is different with each person.

Boltabolh wrote: Well according to all info i have and studies have conducted and tested on my-self a must disagree with you.
But like i said this is my opinion and this is different with each person.

Not trying to argue with you but I don't know where you are reading your info because every reputable book or information site that I've ever read or studied will tell you that adding any exogenous form of testosterone or testosterone derivative will start to shut you down

Hormonas wrote:

Boltabolh wrote: Well according to all info i have and studies have conducted and tested on my-self a must disagree with you.
But like i said this is my opinion and this is different with each person.

Not trying to argue with you but I don't know where you are reading your info because every reputable book or information site that I've ever read or studied will tell you that adding any exogenous form of testosterone or testosterone derivative will start to shut you down

Agreed
But this is my reason for say this:
If the steroids are discontinued abruptly without addressing internal hormone production the result could be prolong state of hypogonadism.
Hypogonadism(low androgen levels).

Not to say its a complete shutdown.
That is why i say it depending on the steroid used.
If the system has shutdown it will be post cycle crash.

But i agree with what you said it will start and low androgen levels will be seen.
Don't agree with all steroids will shutdown the system if clomit is not used.

But thanks will keep that in-mind next time a post.

Hi all,

I’d appreciate some topical advice here especially with regards to PCT.

I’ve decided to stick with the Var and Proviron only cycle for six weeks. Yes, I know what results can be expected from this cycle and that I can’t expect to achieve massive muscle gains. This is not my goal and I will ensure to work as hard as I can to maximize the attainable results.

All that being said. Var and Proviron will cause shut down, the degree of shut down can be debated, but the fact can’t! Anyone who doesn’t know this, please don’t feel compelled to give me any advice. My view is that seeing that the actual cycle compounds will not aromatize, excess E is not the problem which needs correcting during PCT. You need to get natty test production and E levels back to normal, right?

Therefor you need to stimulate T production and not necessarily block E reception.

So based on the fact that my cycle length is 6 weeks, Anavar will be dosed at max 60mg and Proviron at Max 50mg. I see 50mg Clomid cycled every second day for 20 days or 5 days on, 5 off and 5 days on along with some natty boosters as the way to go. PLEASE tel me if I’m wrong, but I think adding Nolva to the PCT might cause more harm than good?

I would do a Nolvadex and clomid PCT as seen in the sample PCTs. There is no reason to use a natty test booster as part of your PCT protocol when you have something that's even better and cheaper.

Hormonas wrote: I would do a Nolvadex and clomid PCT as seen in the sample PCTs. There is no reason to use a natty test booster as part of your PCT protocol when you have something that's even better and cheaper.

I agree 100%

Hi guys,

Just an update. Started the Anavar/Proviron cycle last week and it’s going quite well.

My appetite has remained up and I can already start feeling increased strength during training sessions and slight improvement in body comp.

The guy who usually does my BF measurement (with calipers) is away for the next two weeks and I’d like to get some views on where my BF was at the start of the cycle.

Is there anyway for me to upload pics without using tinypic? I've read the sticky but can't access tinypic from my pc.

Update -

Going extremely well 10 days in. Weight up almost 4kg(85kg) with very clean slight calorie surplus diet. Take it this is normal, but it's more than I expected... No noticeable water retention.

Added 3g taurine twice daily for some back pumps, not ideal but I'll push through. Also have nolva ready for PCT as suggested by fellow members.


I'll upload pre-cycle and updated pics as soon as I can get a way around not having to use fcking tinypics.

try photobucket or imageshack

Good day all

I'm new on this forum. I am a female. I started a cycle of Anavar only 5mg a day for the first two weeks ,10 mg a day from week three, four and five and then back down to 5mg a day for week six and seven. I have done this cycle before and it really worked so well for me and gave me the results I was looking for before my beach holiday. I am now in week 3 of my cycle and sadly my boyfriend broke up with me a few days ago, I have not eaten much at all due to the break up I have absolutely no appitite, probably 1 meal a day. I'm still training hard but not eating, when I feel weak I drink black coffee and maybe a whey protein shake.
So please can you help me with two things
1. I just wanted to know if this will cause any negative results for me
2. Due to the break up my boyfriend was getting me some more Anavar tablets as I'm running low, can you please suggests a trusted site I can order from that deliver etc.
thanks so much. And I will apreciate some feed back. Have a great day x

Smartie wrote: Good day all

I'm new on this forum. I am a female. I started a cycle of Anavar only 5mg a day for the first two weeks ,10 mg a day from week three, four and five and then back down to 5mg a day for week six and seven. I have done this cycle before and it really worked so well for me and gave me the results I was looking for before my beach holiday. I am now in week 3 of my cycle and sadly my boyfriend broke up with me a few days ago, I have not eaten much at all due to the break up I have absolutely no appitite, probably 1 meal a day. I'm still training hard but not eating, when I feel weak I drink black coffee and maybe a whey protein shake.
So please can you help me with two things
1. I just wanted to know if this will cause any negative results for me
2. Due to the break up my boyfriend was getting me some more Anavar tablets as I'm running low, can you please suggests a trusted site I can order from that deliver etc.
thanks so much. And I will apreciate some feed back. Have a great day x

1: Yes, your progress will be affected negatively.
2: That question is not allowed on the forum, please see the rules.

Sorry Admin I Apologize! Didn't read the rules properly and I understand fully now.

In what way negativity will this affect me, will I gain weight, lose muscle, definition, fat etc. should I stop taking Anavar? Some advice would be appreciated. I know I need to eat but I have no appetite.