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19 Jul 2020 18:12 #222962 by Oupa
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Looking at adding Anavar 40mg a week from week 3.

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19 Jul 2020 19:09 #222963 by Jacktuary
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Sadly got a foot injury. Won't be able to train. I'm going to the doc tomorrow. Lockdown literally can't get worse from now on for me xd

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05 Oct 2020 07:50 #223654 by NOS
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@Oupa how is your experiment going? Curious to hear how your log is going. Pitty the gents participating didn't do before and after pics.would be great to see the results of the experiment.

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05 Oct 2020 15:03 #223659 by LesDoctor
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NOS wrote: @Oupa how is your experiment going? Curious to hear how your log is going. Pitty the gents participating didn't do before and after pics.would be great to see the results of the experiment.


I've got before and after pics coming after I finish my first cycle. They will be of me and my training partner. We've been using a program developed by Empire. The results will speak for themselves.
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05 Oct 2020 16:33 #223661 by NOS
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Looking forward to seeing your results @LesDoctor

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14 Oct 2020 16:46 - 14 Oct 2020 16:50 #223764 by 00pump
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:evil: Just to give this thread some attention, updated my profile pic. I didn't do a cycle but was pretty fat from the lockdown and went back on TRT for about 8 weeks to feel human after an unsuccessful PCT with free test of 130 for 5 or so months. I'm not a bodybuilder or have been in over 13 years but just some home gym and diet by Empire, thanks bud for all your advise with my complicated low protein diets because of my kidneys and stuff. This is 30 days after my last shot of TRT due to trying PCT again for another little one.

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14 Oct 2020 18:54 #223766 by LesDoctor
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00pump wrote: :evil: Just to give this thread some attention, updated my profile pic. I didn't do a cycle but was pretty fat from the lockdown and went back on TRT for about 8 weeks to feel human after an unsuccessful PCT with free test of 130 for 5 or so months. I'm not a bodybuilder or have been in over 13 years but just some home gym and diet by Empire, thanks bud for all your advise with my complicated low protein diets because of my kidneys and stuff. This is 30 days after my last shot of TRT due to trying PCT again for another little one.


As someone who is also a weed (6'4), this is something I hope to one day achieve. Congrats 00pump, you look great!
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14 Oct 2020 19:38 - 14 Oct 2020 19:44 #223767 by 00pump
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Haha, yup also 6'4, so in person things are allot bigger as with your frame. Ah bro you will be there within a few months, you eat plants and I can only take in minimal protein :lol: Stay working with Empire and you achieve great results. I might do a proper cycle after the next baby and see if I can push it a bit with my cardiologist keeping a close eye, just for 12 weeks, you get the itch and want to see what happens if you turn on the gas for a brief time. The only thing I'm worried about is dealing with the mental game, as if I blow myself up I can't sustain it and I got super depressed when I had to stop hard training and everyone asking why have you got so small, now at this size I can stay on or off gear, everyone knows where I'm at, so a catch 22, what goes up must come down.

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15 Oct 2020 10:55 #223771 by LesDoctor
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00pump wrote: Haha, yup also 6'4, so in person things are allot bigger as with your frame. Ah bro you will be there within a few months, you eat plants and I can only take in minimal protein :lol: Stay working with Empire and you achieve great results. I might do a proper cycle after the next baby and see if I can push it a bit with my cardiologist keeping a close eye, just for 12 weeks, you get the itch and want to see what happens if you turn on the gas for a brief time. The only thing I'm worried about is dealing with the mental game, as if I blow myself up I can't sustain it and I got super depressed when I had to stop hard training and everyone asking why have you got so small, now at this size I can stay on or off gear, everyone knows where I'm at, so a catch 22, what goes up must come down.


Wish you the best of luck extending your family and with your health. Being big is a nice feeling but it isn't so great if your quality of life is limited due to health related concerns. But I'd be lying if I said i'm not keen to see what you look like after a proper cycle :lol: . Best of luck!

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15 Oct 2020 11:04 #223772 by 00pump
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LesDoctor wrote:

00pump wrote: Haha, yup also 6'4, so in person things are allot bigger as with your frame. Ah bro you will be there within a few months, you eat plants and I can only take in minimal protein :lol: Stay working with Empire and you achieve great results. I might do a proper cycle after the next baby and see if I can push it a bit with my cardiologist keeping a close eye, just for 12 weeks, you get the itch and want to see what happens if you turn on the gas for a brief time. The only thing I'm worried about is dealing with the mental game, as if I blow myself up I can't sustain it and I got super depressed when I had to stop hard training and everyone asking why have you got so small, now at this size I can stay on or off gear, everyone knows where I'm at, so a catch 22, what goes up must come down.


Wish you the best of luck extending your family and with your health. Being big is a nice feeling but it isn't so great if your quality of life is limited due to health related concerns. But I'd be lying if I said i'm not keen to see what you look like after a proper cycle :lol: . Best of luck!


100s bro, thanks man, staying positive about the fertility. I think my issue is the hard/soft wiring where by I started gear at 16, so doing a PCT where am I going back to, hormones develop to what age 24/26? So not having some baseline my body only knows exogenous testosterone or none at all :blink: let's see what happens. Incorporated every single thing I could research to aid in recovery, keen to see in 4 weeks of I'm over the 300 mark.

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15 Oct 2020 11:46 #223773 by LesDoctor
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00pump wrote:

LesDoctor wrote:

00pump wrote: Haha, yup also 6'4, so in person things are allot bigger as with your frame. Ah bro you will be there within a few months, you eat plants and I can only take in minimal protein :lol: Stay working with Empire and you achieve great results. I might do a proper cycle after the next baby and see if I can push it a bit with my cardiologist keeping a close eye, just for 12 weeks, you get the itch and want to see what happens if you turn on the gas for a brief time. The only thing I'm worried about is dealing with the mental game, as if I blow myself up I can't sustain it and I got super depressed when I had to stop hard training and everyone asking why have you got so small, now at this size I can stay on or off gear, everyone knows where I'm at, so a catch 22, what goes up must come down.


Wish you the best of luck extending your family and with your health. Being big is a nice feeling but it isn't so great if your quality of life is limited due to health related concerns. But I'd be lying if I said i'm not keen to see what you look like after a proper cycle :lol: . Best of luck!


100s bro, thanks man, staying positive about the fertility. I think my issue is the hard/soft wiring where by I started gear at 16, so doing a PCT where am I going back to, hormones develop to what age 24/26? So not having some baseline my body only knows exogenous testosterone or none at all :blink: let's see what happens. Incorporated every single thing I could research to aid in recovery, keen to see in 4 weeks of I'm over the 300 mark.


That's such an interesting question. I wonder if your baseline is now whatever it was when you started. Please inform us how your journey goes, I'm really interested to know.

I'm scared to PCT because my Baseline at 18 was 190 and after years of trying everything under the sun to bump it up it was a whopping 275 at the old age of 23 :silly: .

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