Newbie to the steroids scene!?

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29 Jan 2008 12:49 #766 by ryry21
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Hi,

I am 21 m, 1.7m, 72kg, 17% bodyfat, 24BMI.

I have been training for quite a few years now. i have tried many products and exercise and personal trainers but nothing seems to help me get the results i am looking for.

I am keen to try steroids, and see if they work for me.. i would like to build (but not huge) and cut.

I have been told to get DECA and WINSTROL and take them together for the desired effect.. can anyone give me some advice?

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29 Jan 2008 13:07 #767 by MxT
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Youe 2 young to even think of gear- trust me on this MINIMUM age 23 BUT you can definately look at an ECA stack to help u get into shape- I believe your diet and training could prob use tweaking-please post us ur diet and trainig schedule.

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29 Jan 2008 13:51 #768 by ryry21
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thanks for the advice.

Here is my gym program.. i am not following any specific eating plan at the moment. (File Removed)

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29 Jan 2008 13:52 #769 by thunda
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Hi

i am also a nube.....23,102 kg,1.8 meters tall

I want to lose belly fat and build my upper body more.I am only entering the gym scene now,but my work is like gyming....lol.My biceps are 38 cm and i would like it more like 45 cm and up.My waist is 106 cm,and i definately want to make that beer boep history.I am in the process of obtaining anabol 10mg...what must i take with this to make it safer or is there a product you can advise me on that will burn fat like a lazer and help me build like hulk?

thanx guys

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29 Jan 2008 14:34 #771 by MxT
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Hi Thunda here is a budget cutter diet- anabol will bloat you if u need to take something- look at ECA and not gear (File Removed)

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29 Jan 2008 14:38 #772 by MxT
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Hi ryry

Here is a bulking diet- google MAx OT training and get the program. Take those 2 and call us in a year

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29 Jan 2008 14:38 #773 by MxT
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Let me try again (File Removed)

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29 Jan 2008 14:45 #774 by thunda
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thank you

MxT

i will give it a bash.

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29 Jan 2008 14:45 #775 by ryry21
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thanks! :-)

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29 Jan 2008 14:52 #776 by thunda
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hi Mxt

Where can we obtain heat and what does it cost?

thanx

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29 Jan 2008 15:00 #777 by ryry21
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should i be taking any supplements?

at the moment i'm on CLA, Muscle Science - Ripped, and EAS-Pure Protein.

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29 Jan 2008 17:13 #778 by MxT
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sorry i actually kind sent u the wrong diet there....my bad-its all good and well just replace ur afternoon carbs with vegies and do ur shakes with water not milk. u need to pick up muscle and lose BF- thats nt the easiet thing to do. Stick with the supplemts you are using currently- if you see ur BF% climbing start hitting the cardio youl get to a spot where it balances out...Instead of buying Muscle Scien ripped again invest in a good ECA stack

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29 Jan 2008 20:54 #780 by ryry21
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ok cool.. thanks.
whats an ECA Stack?

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30 Jan 2008 07:46 #784 by admin
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ryry21 wrote:

whats an ECA Stack?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECA_stack

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30 Jan 2008 07:51 #785 by MxT
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Brilliant !!!!!! I love wiki!! Sorry im being mean.

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30 Jan 2008 20:06 #794 by thunda
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hey guys

ok i have my anabol 10mg 50's and gym contract...what do i have to know to start cutting and growing.....please tell me what i can do to grow fast and burn fat and not look like a jelly baby...lol

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30 Jan 2008 21:09 #796 by kraz
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Do yourself a HUGE, no actually MASSIVE favour and thoroughly read the following:
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/func,view/id,311/catid,10/

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30 Jan 2008 21:44 #797 by thunda
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hello

nice one kraz.I went to the gym and neared one of the big guys that looks like he knows whats going on...he agreed to show me the ropes...i dont wana fall in with the roids he might think bad of me and squash meou for the diet plans to a pulp.Thank you for the idea..my calorie intake calculated comes to 2805...here is a stuped question.......proteins are meat....cabs are potato's but where do i get the fat?Are you talking about the fat on the meat?do i cut it off and mesure it?please

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30 Jan 2008 23:44 #801 by Doctari
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Thunda, I think you should do a search on the site's archives on strings containing subjects on dieting. Start by the string on "how much calory intake?". That string ran for a massive 7 pages! The information there that I supplied, is its weight worth in gold! If you read it, please go and save it somewhere or print it - the formulas in there are used by professional dieticians. Any novice b/biulder can use it and probably put a diet together and know how to change it, just as good as a registered dietician would do for you.

About fat - yes, you need to remove the visible fat from ALL your food BEFORE cooking it. Always use low/non-fat dairy if you must. The fat that we are talking about in the diet section, is the naturally occuring type, meaning embedded in between the fibres of all that healthy food you're planning to put in your diet - you cannot and should not remove it - this fat is the basis from where your body obtains its cholesterol rings, which it then uses to produce most of your steroid-like hormones. So yes - you should take fat in. For instance, 300 gram of lean(again, no visible fat) chicken breast, contains ± 84gr of protein and ± 13,5 gr of natural occuring fats.

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31 Jan 2008 11:01 #807 by thunda
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whoa!

that is a very powerfull article....Can that whole forum(all 7 pages) maby be converted into a txt file?I think that is almost everything a nube has to know to become an expert...lol.I can do copy and paste the whole time,but isnt there an easier way?I can print all seven pages to pdf,but then its coing to be seven pdf file's....it can then be ziped into one file.....but how can i get it to you to put it up for download?

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31 Jan 2008 15:17 #809 by kraz
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Thunda, aslo invest in a caloric calender, or visit Bodybuilding.com and look under Nutrition for their food indexes. There it gives you the basic layout of a product per 100g.

Learn and enjoy!

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31 Jan 2008 16:33 #811 by thunda
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sweet.......thanx kraz


oh and another thing....Winstrol is better then dbol...Do you agree?In terms of damage to the body,water retension,acne and testicle shrinkage.....

thanks guys

im learning alot.........look out Arnold......ill be back....hehehehehe

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31 Jan 2008 21:49 #818 by thunda
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creatine monohydrate and taurine.is that bad on the kidneys?and what would you guys say is the best grouping for muscles.back and legs and so forth.how does calstatic exercises mesure up?thank you for ur info on the creatine pgw.

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01 Feb 2008 15:09 #827 by kraz
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Thunda, I dont want to be rude or anything..... But, DUDE..... You got A LOT more to learn before even considering Steroids. Do some research and read articles on Bodybuilding.com.

Your questions due..... Eish.... This site is 2 advanced if you know what I mean...

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01 Feb 2008 15:30 #828 by thunda
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i dont know what im allowed to say and what not.....on the steroid topic.i have done quite a bit of reading up on te products that i want to be using.my thoughts were between Db and winnies.......i have decided to go for winnies for the fact that it will be less harder than dbol on my system and it will not make me poofie!i was craped on the other day for being to nosy and i got frieked out.I dont want a pack of dangerous body builders after my ass....i dont want to offend anyone or step on anyones toe's.All i want is a supplier then i will leave everyone alone.

is that realy to much to ask?

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