PGW Test Cyp and Db

Ok so i am starting your sample cycle,beginner bulking,its my first time taking PGW but i will stick to this cycle too the last bit,i can get most gear out there (Dragon,Axio,Alpha,Illium,RWR and Organon) i have tried most off them but i am looking forward too the PGW,got it today with a full sealed 1000tab Db's from British.Current weight is 100kg bf 11% so i will keep posting my progres,i dont wanna use any pre-workout really but i am taking Beta-Alinine and Ganic F caps,will this in anyway have an affect on my gains?Protein shake is in the form of BSN Syntha 6 and a good dieet.I will give my honest oppinion on PGW afterwards but i am sure i will love it,i pinned my 1st with no pain in the shoulder,i know its a beginer cycle,but i wanna keep with one test so i can see the affects.Hope on clearing alot of questions on the PGW matter..... :woohoo:

PGW matter??? PGW has proven itself as the best

Good luck with the cycle!

By "matter" I mean that a lot of people think that most people on this site is only marketing PGW,I don't wanna cause any problems and I will only give my honest oppinion on it.I don't mind the Labs,aslong as it works!

So you're saying most of us are dishonest people with hidden agendas?

Listen @Eidolon,can you read?I did not say that anywhere,I love this site and all the great advice admin gives,don't start a shit story,rather read my post and comment on the question I asked,no you wanna go and pick a fight.Again I say:I love any gear that works,its a pitty I waited so long before joining the PGW family but I am sure I won't have any regrets.A lot of guys are saying stuff about this site,and that's why I started this,not to pick a fight with you!!!!I want to show everybody that is thinking that how wrong they are and that this is truelly a great site for any advice,no matter what labs you wanna use.That's how we all learn,by reading and asking advice,so Eidolon take a chill pill!!!! I don't wanna start a full discussion on you putting words in my mouth!Hope this matter is resolved now and we can get back to helping each other.

If English wasn't my first language I'd still be able to pick up the humour in eidolons post, well if not humour definitely just messing with you, nothing serious. Relax you are over reacting I am sure your unbiased opinion on PGW is going to be greatly appreciated

Thanx Chapel,what's your take on the pre-workout issue?What do you think of the Ganic-F,Beta-alinine combination?

Eidolon and myself are very similar. Have the same humour and temper lol. So to add what Chapel said....Don't take offense. I'm positive it was just a little left jab to the ribs nothing to get ur ovaries tied in a knot about

As for the pre-workout....makes no difference really. Never used the ganic caps so can't really say anything about it. Beta-aline is awesome and I'm definitely going to get some when I do my next cycle again. Ganic already has beta alinine in though... It won't affect your gains negatively.

So out of curiosity, what are people saying about this site? Besides the "pgw issue"?

People feel the site is just for PGW and that other brand are knocked down not always in an polite and justified manner.some guys i know feel the sites info is solid but just a bit too conservative if you want to be competetive.

I love PGW and LP and the site but thats just in a nutshell to some up the feedback i got.

Well the info and advice on here may be seen as conservative to some (people like "Jakes" I presume) but they don't HAVE to listen. We advise responsible, safe and sustainable steroid use with the emphasis on staying healthy short and long term. I'm sure those who feel that way are more than welcome to start their own site

Was not reffering to jakes(He has changed a lot since he met koe.) i was reffering to my friends that compete.

Lol I said people LIKE jakes. Not it IS jakes.

Back to topic

VonD wrote: Was not reffering to jakes(He has changed a lot since he met koe.) i was reffering to my friends that compete.

He really has changed a lot, actually quite a nice guy he is on a base cycle at the moment no insane dosages and getting good results.

Vond and Johan are right that is the perception of most regarding this site, however I know PGW is solid my results speak for themselves however people don't believe dIet is key as everyone is looking for a quick fix.

johann83 wrote: Ok so i am starting your sample cycle,beginner bulking,its my first time taking PGW but i will stick to this cycle too the last bit,i can get most gear out there (Dragon,Axio,Alpha,Illium,RWR and Organon) i have tried most off them but i am looking forward too the PGW,got it today with a full sealed 1000tab Db's from British.Current weight is 100kg bf 11% so i will keep posting my progres,i dont wanna use any pre-workout really but i am taking Beta-Alinine and Ganic F caps,will this in anyway have an affect on my gains?Protein shake is in the form of BSN Syntha 6 and a good dieet.I will give my honest oppinion on PGW afterwards but i am sure i will love it,i pinned my 1st with no pain in the shoulder,i know its a beginer cycle,but i wanna keep with one test so i can see the affects.Hope on clearing alot of questions on the PGW matter..... :woohoo:

Look forward to hearing your progress bud. The shake is good just overpriced IMO but your prewo out combo will have you on a buzz with all the beta alanine, take one or the other or you will mess your receptors and sensitivity to it up quite quickly. Whey Ondiers is solid quality and his prices unbeatable. Again all we want is your honest opinion keep us updated

MCJ wrote: Eidolon and myself are very similar. Have the same humour and temper lol. So to add what Chapel said....Don't take offense. I'm positive it was just a little left jab to the ribs nothing to get ur ovaries tied in a knot about

Spot on MCJ .

Johann, most of us joined this forum with the same reservations that you and your friends have. Time and time again, however, people are converted to PGW and LP. Not because we are forced to, but because of the quality and consistency of the product. Which is why I took a tiny stab at you: if you end up getting great results on PGW, why do you think people will believe you any more than they do anyone else on this forum?

But I look forward to you confirming what we already know - PGW is awesome.

Ok so I just got back from gym,did shoulders,I feel very positive so far,I know its 2 fast for the cyp 2 be working,only injected my first 250mg 3days back,but the db's feels like its doing their part,starting 2 feel more bloated and power is up a tiny bit,weight was 102.4kg today but I must say I really wanna give this cycle its all so am eating like crazy,eating anything I can get my hands on.Will worry about fat latter.Will keep you posted and weigh in again next friday.

Will using Acnetane with this cycle stop any gains on this cycle,I am taking 20mg per day for 20months,I am taking a shit load of water,and no lower back pains yet,but can it influence gains?

Hey guys,I am feeling a bit down today,wanna really push the weights but my joints are keeping me back,started taking Omega 3&6 hope it works,trying also to stay away from straight bar bicep curls,scarred of getting pain in forearms,happened on previous cycle.Strength is getting there just need 2 sort the joint pains.Eating is good,also taking my Glutamine and BCAA,still hoping 2 get good results on PGW....

Ok so I am a bit more than 3weeks in now,I must say in the beginning I was thinking I was in the wrong taking a beginner cycle,not being a roid novice,but I felt the gear kicking in very nicely today,blood pressure is up a bit,nipples a bit more sensitive but nothing major,I did chest today,my heaviest incline press yet,felt good.Weight was 103.5kg.

Please keep updating, would love to see your opinion and results!

Hey guys all is well so far,had a couple of bad days on the food side but strength and weight stayed up,i would like to know,what supplements do you recomend using with the cycle? Creatine?Glutamine?BCAA? I finished the ON shake so i got some Evox 100% Whey.

Hi johann, creatine,glutamine then bcaa's. In that order, creatine is above glutamine because youll get enough if you drink like 60-100g whey daily. well done with the cycle.

Shot man,thanx

CHAPEL wrote: If English wasn't my first language I'd still be able to pick up the humour in eidolons post, well if not humour definitely just messing with you, nothing serious. Relax you are over reacting I am sure your unbiased opinion on PGW is going to be greatly appreciated

Fuck Chapel you crack me up sometimes!!

CHAPEL wrote: If English wasn't my first language I'd still be able to pick up the humour in eidolons post, well if not humour definitely just messing with you, nothing serious. Relax you are over reacting I am sure your unbiased opinion on PGW is going to be greatly appreciated

Fuck Chapel you crack me up sometimes!! +1 karma