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27 Nov 2013 16:47 #158113 by Hardstyle
Hi all

I have been running PGW test cyp @ 500mg per wk for the last 6 weeks. I am currently in my 7th week and was thinking of upping the dosage to about 750mg per week until my last wk which is wk 10.
I plan on running only till wk 10 before I start my bridge and pct.

I have been using the below

• 500mg test cyp per wk
• 40mg Dbol – 31day frontload
• Proviron – 40mg ed. (I stopped after week 5 and will continue after my last pin, during bridge)
• PCT protocol 2

Pre cycle stats
BF 12.6%
Weight – 68kg

Current stats
BF 11.2%
Weight 73KG

Can I increase my test dosage?
Will my PCT still be the same?

This is my 2nd cycle. Previous cycle was about 5 years ago.

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27 Nov 2013 16:56 #158115 by Oupa
Rather extend the cycle for 12 weeks @ 500mg pw.
PCT stays the same of you can add the HCG in cycle.
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27 Nov 2013 18:32 #158121 by Hardstyle
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Thanks Oupa

I will seriously consider that. Can I also run liquid clen before the bridge? Or must I leave it for bridge only?

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27 Nov 2013 19:45 #158127 by Pyroclasm
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Bud remember that some people just wait a bit longer for the test to properly greet you. Late bloomers so to speak. Extend the cycle to 12 weeks like Oupa said and keep it at 500mg per week, or I would do 2.5ml per week.

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27 Nov 2013 20:54 #158129 by Oupa

Hardstyle wrote: Thanks Oupa

I will seriously consider that. Can I also run liquid clen before the bridge? Or must I leave it for bridge only?


That depends on your diet & calorie intake when you want to add clen.

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27 Nov 2013 22:35 #158131 by Hardstyle
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Pyro and oupa. My diet is a lot more focused on building lean muscle and dropping BF. Can I post my diet up and would u kindly critique then advise how I can bring in the liquid clen to lean out even more towards the end and during my bridge

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27 Nov 2013 22:52 #158132 by Oupa
Yes, post and lets see what can be done..

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28 Nov 2013 10:43 #158143 by Hardstyle
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After putting some thought into this, I think I will extend my cycle to 12 weeks. This is because I have not yet seen the full effects of the test and like Pyro mentioned I am probably a late bloomer. Please critique my diet. I am currently seeing a consultant who has put my diet and trainin programme together for me (excl the roids)

As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop BF. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle.

Herewith my diet log:

Meal 1, 7:30am – 3 whole eggs, 1 cup tea, 1 apple, 1 table spoon olive oil
Meal 2 10:30am – 3 egg whites
Meal 3, 12:30pm – 150g chicken fillet, apple
Meal 4, 4pm – 150g chicken fillet, banana
Meal 5 (pre workout), 6pm – 1 scoop blended protein (muscle tech phase 8), apple, 1 tablespoon olive oil
Meal 6 post workout – 8:30pm – 2 scoops O.N Whey
Meal 7 (post workout), 9:30pm – 100g chicken mince, 2 slices whole wheat bread, 1 tablespoon olive oil, small salad.

Further to this I have the below supplements:
• Vit c 500mg after breakfast only
• B complex vitamins – after breakfast and after supper
• Opti men multi vit – 3 tablets per day after meals 1, 3, 7
• Essential (liver support) – 2 capsule per day

As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop bodyfat. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle.

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28 Nov 2013 10:52 #158147 by mike123
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with your diet I would say u have reached your max perhaps another kg or two will come ...if u increase your test to 750 mg u will get more sides not size ..check the diet stickies out ..I would stick to 10 weeks then bridge with winny /anavar and 3f with a decent diet ...

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28 Nov 2013 14:20 #158185 by Hardstyle
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thanks Mike

so from the 5 Kgs that i picked up i might just add another kilo to that, and if im lucky il manage to hold onto half of it? depending on diet and genetics.
i would think thats bad

Furthermore i am not sure which way to go, stil waiting for a response from oupa and Pyro.
Do i hold for 10 wks or shoot for 12.

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28 Nov 2013 14:27 #158189 by mike123
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Yep it takes a lot of cycles to get big ...10 weeks or 12 doesnt matter ...for conveniance sake 10 shots of 2ml = 2 vials ....or u could go for 12 and keep the balance for next cycle or shoot for 15 weeks if sides are under control ....
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28 Nov 2013 14:42 #158197 by jackrabbit1
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mike123 wrote: Yep it takes a lot of cycles to get big ...10 weeks or 12 doesnt matter ...for conveniance sake 10 shots of 2ml = 2 vials ....or u could go for 12 and keep the balance for next cycle or shoot for 15 weeks if sides are under control ....


i get 9, 1ml shots from a vile - maybe less - i'm a bit greedy :blush: .
You want my vote? Get 3 and finish them.

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28 Nov 2013 14:45 #158200 by Hardstyle
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cool thanks, then alot of cycles it is...

Im was already thinking of my next cycle.
So its time on cycle + pct = time off before i can start my next cycle hey? and the earliest i can start my next cycle would be 3 months after last pin of test? or 3 months after PCT?

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28 Nov 2013 14:53 #158202 by crawler
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why the apples and bread?

what is your total calories currently? also state protein, fats and carbs intake...

"meal 2" is not really a meal to me...

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28 Nov 2013 14:55 #158203 by Hardstyle
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jackrabbit1 wrote: i get 9, 1ml shots from a vile - maybe less - i'm a bit greedy :blush: .
You want my vote? Get 3 and finish them.


i am already on the 3rd bottle :P

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28 Nov 2013 14:56 #158204 by Hardstyle
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crawler wrote: why the apples and bread?

what is your total calories currently? also state protein, fats and carbs intake...

"meal 2" is not really a meal to me...


apples as a carb and fibre source.
the same with the wholewheat bread. wholewheat bread only post workout.

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28 Nov 2013 16:44 #158211 by Muscleaddict
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That's not a lot of food if you're planning on building a decent amount of muscle. You can't eat so little and plan to get ripped and gain size as well.

3 months wait before your next cycle.

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28 Nov 2013 17:17 #158220 by Hardstyle
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Muscleaddict wrote: That's not a lot of food if you're planning on building a decent amount of muscle. You can't eat so little and plan to get ripped and gain size as well.

How much more was i suppose to be eating? can you shed some light on what u may be thinking?

3 months wait before your next cycle.

is this 3months after pct or after last test pin?

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28 Nov 2013 17:28 #158221 by Muscleaddict
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After PCT.
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28 Nov 2013 18:16 #158223 by FatBoy
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Hardstyle wrote: Pre cycle stats
BF 12.6%
Weight – 68kg

Current stats
BF 11.2%
Weight 73KG


Based on those stats you have made some awesome LBM gains so well done.
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29 Nov 2013 08:41 - 30 Nov 2013 01:00 #158242 by Pyroclasm
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Hardstyle wrote: After putting some thought into this, I think I will extend my cycle to 12 weeks. This is because I have not yet seen the full effects of the test and like Pyro mentioned I am probably a late bloomer. Please critique my diet. I am currently seeing a consultant who has put my diet and trainin programme together for me (excl the roids)

As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop BF. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle.

Herewith my diet log:

Meal 1, 7:30am – 3 whole eggs, 1 cup tea, 1 apple, 1 table spoon olive oil Fruit is sugar so for your purposes cut out all fruit except around workout times.
Meal 2 10:30am – 3 egg whites I don't understand this meal. Try 2 whole eggs and 4 egg whites with 1tblsp peanut butter
Meal 3, 12:30pm – 150g chicken fillet, apple Leave the apple. Add 200g potato
Meal 4, 4pm – 150g chicken fillet, banana
Meal 5 (pre workout), 6pm – 1 scoop blended protein (muscle tech phase 8), apple, 1 tablespoon olive oil Big NB no fats around workout times. Add 10g BCAA's and Creatine Mono
Meal 6 post workout – 8:30pm – 2 scoops O.N Whey Add 10g BCAA's, Creatine, and 50g Vitargo or Dextrose
Meal 7 (post workout), 9:30pm – 100g chicken mince, 2 slices whole wheat bread, 1 tablespoon olive oil, small salad. Again here NB no fats. Instead of the bread I would eat two cups of cooked rice.

Further to this I have the below supplements:
• Vit c 500mg after breakfast only 2g per day min to get the proper effects.
• B complex vitamins – after breakfast and after supper Vitamin B tabs only feed the mind. Only the injections work.
• Opti men multi vit – 3 tablets per day after meals 1, 3, 7
• Essential (liver support) – 2 capsule per day

As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop bodyfat. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle. Especially for this goal you need to eat super clean. No bread or fruits or things like that, and make sure you don't eat carbs with fats.

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29 Nov 2013 08:45 #158243 by Pyroclasm
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Hardstyle wrote: thanks Mike

so from the 5 Kgs that i picked up i might just add another kilo to that, and if im lucky il manage to hold onto half of it? depending on diet and genetics.
i would think thats bad

Furthermore i am not sure which way to go, stil waiting for a response from oupa and Pyro.
Do i hold for 10 wks or shoot for 12.


Do 12 weeks. Yes it takes many cycles to get huge but it will take less if you optimism your cycles and plan them carefully.

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29 Nov 2013 11:58 #158256 by manery
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whats your height? just curious.

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02 Dec 2013 19:52 #158341 by Hardstyle
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manery wrote: whats your height? just curious.

168cm

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02 Dec 2013 19:56 #158342 by Hardstyle
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Pyroclasm wrote:

Hardstyle wrote: After putting some thought into this, I think I will extend my cycle to 12 weeks. This is because I have not yet seen the full effects of the test and like Pyro mentioned I am probably a late bloomer. Please critique my diet. I am currently seeing a consultant who has put my diet and trainin programme together for me (excl the roids)

As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop BF. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle.

Herewith my diet log:

Meal 1, 7:30am – 3 whole eggs, 1 cup tea, 1 apple, 1 table spoon olive oil Fruit is sugar so for your purposes cut out all fruit except around workout times.
Meal 2 10:30am – 3 egg whites I don't understand this meal. Try 2 whole eggs and 4 egg whites with 1tblsp peanut butter
Meal 3, 12:30pm – 150g chicken fillet, apple Leave the apple. Add 200g potato
Meal 4, 4pm – 150g chicken fillet, banana
Meal 5 (pre workout), 6pm – 1 scoop blended protein (muscle tech phase 8), apple, 1 tablespoon olive oil Big NB no fats around workout times. Add 10g BCAA's and Creatine Mono
Meal 6 post workout – 8:30pm – 2 scoops O.N Whey Add 10g BCAA's, Creatine, and 50g Vitargo or Dextrose
Meal 7 (post workout), 9:30pm – 100g chicken mince, 2 slices whole wheat bread, 1 tablespoon olive oil, small salad. Again here NB no fats. Instead of the bread I would eat two cups of cooked rice.

Further to this I have the below supplements:
• Vit c 500mg after breakfast only 2g per day min to get the proper effects.
• B complex vitamins – after breakfast and after supper Vitamin B tabs only feed the mind. Only the injections work.
• Opti men multi vit – 3 tablets per day after meals 1, 3, 7
• Essential (liver support) – 2 capsule per day

As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop bodyfat. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle. Especially for this goal you need to eat super clean. No bread or fruits or things like that, and make sure you don't eat carbs with fats.


Thank You Pyro
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