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Hardstyle wrote: Thanks Oupa
I will seriously consider that. Can I also run liquid clen before the bridge? Or must I leave it for bridge only?
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mike123 wrote: Yep it takes a lot of cycles to get big ...10 weeks or 12 doesnt matter ...for conveniance sake 10 shots of 2ml = 2 vials ....or u could go for 12 and keep the balance for next cycle or shoot for 15 weeks if sides are under control ....
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jackrabbit1 wrote: i get 9, 1ml shots from a vile - maybe less - i'm a bit greedy :blush: .
You want my vote? Get 3 and finish them.
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crawler wrote: why the apples and bread?
what is your total calories currently? also state protein, fats and carbs intake...
"meal 2" is not really a meal to me...
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is this 3months after pct or after last test pin?Muscleaddict wrote: That's not a lot of food if you're planning on building a decent amount of muscle. You can't eat so little and plan to get ripped and gain size as well.
How much more was i suppose to be eating? can you shed some light on what u may be thinking?
3 months wait before your next cycle.
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Hardstyle wrote: Pre cycle stats
BF 12.6%
Weight – 68kg
Current stats
BF 11.2%
Weight 73KG
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Hardstyle wrote: After putting some thought into this, I think I will extend my cycle to 12 weeks. This is because I have not yet seen the full effects of the test and like Pyro mentioned I am probably a late bloomer. Please critique my diet. I am currently seeing a consultant who has put my diet and trainin programme together for me (excl the roids)
As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop BF. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle.
Herewith my diet log:
Meal 1, 7:30am – 3 whole eggs, 1 cup tea, 1 apple, 1 table spoon olive oil Fruit is sugar so for your purposes cut out all fruit except around workout times.
Meal 2 10:30am – 3 egg whites I don't understand this meal. Try 2 whole eggs and 4 egg whites with 1tblsp peanut butter
Meal 3, 12:30pm – 150g chicken fillet, apple Leave the apple. Add 200g potato
Meal 4, 4pm – 150g chicken fillet, banana
Meal 5 (pre workout), 6pm – 1 scoop blended protein (muscle tech phase, apple, 1 tablespoon olive oil Big NB no fats around workout times. Add 10g BCAA's and Creatine Mono
Meal 6 post workout – 8:30pm – 2 scoops O.N Whey Add 10g BCAA's, Creatine, and 50g Vitargo or Dextrose
Meal 7 (post workout), 9:30pm – 100g chicken mince, 2 slices whole wheat bread, 1 tablespoon olive oil, small salad. Again here NB no fats. Instead of the bread I would eat two cups of cooked rice.
Further to this I have the below supplements:
• Vit c 500mg after breakfast only 2g per day min to get the proper effects.
• B complex vitamins – after breakfast and after supper Vitamin B tabs only feed the mind. Only the injections work.
• Opti men multi vit – 3 tablets per day after meals 1, 3, 7
• Essential (liver support) – 2 capsule per day
As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop bodyfat. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle. Especially for this goal you need to eat super clean. No bread or fruits or things like that, and make sure you don't eat carbs with fats.
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Hardstyle wrote: thanks Mike
so from the 5 Kgs that i picked up i might just add another kilo to that, and if im lucky il manage to hold onto half of it? depending on diet and genetics.
i would think thats bad
Furthermore i am not sure which way to go, stil waiting for a response from oupa and Pyro.
Do i hold for 10 wks or shoot for 12.
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168cmmanery wrote: whats your height? just curious.
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Pyroclasm wrote:
Hardstyle wrote: After putting some thought into this, I think I will extend my cycle to 12 weeks. This is because I have not yet seen the full effects of the test and like Pyro mentioned I am probably a late bloomer. Please critique my diet. I am currently seeing a consultant who has put my diet and trainin programme together for me (excl the roids)
As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop BF. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle.
Herewith my diet log:
Meal 1, 7:30am – 3 whole eggs, 1 cup tea, 1 apple, 1 table spoon olive oil Fruit is sugar so for your purposes cut out all fruit except around workout times.
Meal 2 10:30am – 3 egg whites I don't understand this meal. Try 2 whole eggs and 4 egg whites with 1tblsp peanut butter
Meal 3, 12:30pm – 150g chicken fillet, apple Leave the apple. Add 200g potato
Meal 4, 4pm – 150g chicken fillet, banana
Meal 5 (pre workout), 6pm – 1 scoop blended protein (muscle tech phase, apple, 1 tablespoon olive oil Big NB no fats around workout times. Add 10g BCAA's and Creatine Mono
Meal 6 post workout – 8:30pm – 2 scoops O.N Whey Add 10g BCAA's, Creatine, and 50g Vitargo or Dextrose
Meal 7 (post workout), 9:30pm – 100g chicken mince, 2 slices whole wheat bread, 1 tablespoon olive oil, small salad. Again here NB no fats. Instead of the bread I would eat two cups of cooked rice.
Further to this I have the below supplements:
• Vit c 500mg after breakfast only 2g per day min to get the proper effects.
• B complex vitamins – after breakfast and after supper Vitamin B tabs only feed the mind. Only the injections work.
• Opti men multi vit – 3 tablets per day after meals 1, 3, 7
• Essential (liver support) – 2 capsule per day
As mentioned my goal Is to build lean muscle and drop bodyfat. I currently have a lil tummy which I want to convert to a 6 pack by the end of my cycle. Especially for this goal you need to eat super clean. No bread or fruits or things like that, and make sure you don't eat carbs with fats.
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