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06 Jun 2014 10:53 #170033 by AlexRon
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Hi All

I will be starting this course in the next few days: Dianabol & Testocyp (Beginner bulking cycle)

I have some questions please:

• Can I run a bridge with this? Why would there be no bridge listed for this course, is it due to the half life of Testocyp of 12 days? And if so what should I be taking?
• I don’t like the side effects of the Novladex – “Tamoxifen is toxic to the liver and liver cancer is a concern. A scary study carried out clearly states that liver damage occurred in every animal that was administered by this drug” – At age 11 I had Hep B – this is a concern for me, can I just run Clomid and HCG?
• Can I run HGH on this course – would it be beneficial?
• Based on the above liver concern and Hep B, should I run oral Dianabols – if taking Milk Thristle, would this be ok?
• Arimidex is administered at 1mg per pill per day, my supplier will sell me 10pills, would this be enough if I feel its required if my nipples start to hurt or show sign’s or would more be required?
• When referring to intramuscular injections, must this be any major muscle only? Or will any muscle be ok? Triceps? Biceps? Or should one stick to glutes and quads only?
• The HCG “Epifasi” once mixed, should it be placed in the fridge?

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06 Jun 2014 11:19 - 06 Jun 2014 11:20 #170036 by mike123
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1. yes ..its a choice eg want to drop water / cut but keep diet good..will keep u anabolic till PCT
2.U must use nolva.. it is a concern if u taking big doses for long periods 99% of people will not be effected but there is always the 1% thats life. THE MA will have the technicalities.Ok if u had Hep B u might have to stay away from orals Dbol is move liver toxic ..have it checked at the Doc..lots of milk thistle or essential ...
3.yes
4.speak to a doc..
5.I havnt use Arimadex ...I use Letro so cant say.
6.yes ...your legs or butt... go look in the articles section on how to inject and were ...
7.yep or cool place dont shake ..
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06 Jun 2014 11:36 #170040 by AlexRon
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Awesome, thanks Mike

In response

1 - I would like to bridge, what should I consider? - Anavar looks rather good to me - between 40 - 100mg per day, starting out, how much should I consider, maybe 60mg per day?
2 - So using Nova for a short period then would be ok I gather
3 - HGH at 2 injections per day, morning and after lunch, 1 hour before or after fatty meals injected into the stomach, costs are rather high on this and results are only seen after 3 months, what sizes are they supplied in and how long would it last me?
4 - Can I not be reported to the police by my Doctor?
5 - Ill read up on it
6 - Thanks will do
7 - Will it be supplied in a normal glass bottle with lid? Ive see glass vials that need to be broken, what would I do with it if I get a glass vial unit as per this image on google - once mixed, what would I put it in?
[img size=IMAGE] www.google.co.za/search?q=epifasi&tbm=is...in-.html%3B247%3B187 [/img]

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06 Jun 2014 12:04 #170047 by mike123
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1.Anavar at 60mg ...but it is also liver toxic
2.yep
3.U will have to use the search function to get details but normally start 3 months before so u run for 9 months or at least 6. at 5iu F*cking expensive and not really for a first cycle ...
4. Ask him /her IF u decided to use ? there is a doctor client privalage and he gains nothing ...
7.HCG comes in a vial with a tablet or powder and another containing 2 to 5 ml of water u mix 2ml of water slowly into the vial with a syringe that gives u 5000iu..

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06 Jun 2014 12:15 #170050 by AlexRon
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Thanks again Mike

Going to ask again, as I know this is going to be an issue for me

if the HCG comes in a vial, you break the glass at the top correct, you then mix them with a syringe, now you have a broken vial, how do you store this thing with out messing it, as it has no lid to seal it???

Its not like a bottle with a lid?

Sorry, stupid question but I know its going to be a problem for me

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06 Jun 2014 12:21 - 06 Jun 2014 12:21 #170055 by Oupa
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You are concerned about the strain Nolvadex has on the liver but you plan to use dbols ? :P
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06 Jun 2014 12:26 #170058 by Nate40
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Difference between a vial and an ampoule Alex.

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06 Jun 2014 12:28 - 06 Jun 2014 12:31 #170060 by mike123
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Just be clear Alex all orals are liver toxic especially Dbol ...
Ok u have a vial with the powder it should be sealed with a rubber stopper like the one your test comes in ...u then brake the top of the glass vial / bottle draw the water and inject into the vial with the rubber stopper ...if it doesnt come like that then u will have to mix and inject into a sterile vial with a stopper ...dont know were u will get that maybe a chemist ...


U brake the ampoule...contains the sterile water ..thanks Nate
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06 Jun 2014 12:31 #170062 by AlexRon
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Oupa wrote: You are concerned about the strain Nolvadex has on the liver but you plan to use dbols ? :P


Oupa, in the readings provided, Dbol does not have:

"Tamoxifen is toxic to the liver and liver cancer is a concern. A scary study carried out clearly states that liver damage occurred in every animal that was administered by this drug"

But does have:
"Milk Thristle is necessary"

Which in my mind tells me all will be ok if I take that while taking Dbols!!!

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06 Jun 2014 12:32 #170063 by AlexRon
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Nate40 wrote: Difference between a vial and an ampoule Alex.


Ah ha, you right, had them mixed up, perfect then

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06 Jun 2014 12:40 #170069 by AlexRon
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A mate of mine has put me on to his supplier who is new to me, I asked him what manufactures he has, he said to me all of them

When I arrive there tomorrow to purchase my test and dbols - is there a manufacturer that is say better than the rest or are they all pretty much the same?

Thoughts please

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06 Jun 2014 12:43 #170072 by Nate40
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As high a pharmaceutical grade as you can find in each product Alex. Don't risk anything by trying to save a few bucks. Its not worth it.

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06 Jun 2014 12:49 #170078 by AlexRon
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Nate40 wrote: As high a pharmaceutical grade as you can find in each product.


How would I tell - Anyway to tell?

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06 Jun 2014 12:50 #170080 by mike123
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LP orals and PGW test...

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06 Jun 2014 12:51 #170081 by Nate40
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PGW or alpha Pharma. If your guy is worth his salt he will make solid recommendations.

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06 Jun 2014 12:52 #170082 by AlexRon
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Perfect thanks

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06 Jun 2014 12:57 #170084 by AlexRon
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What I would love to look like - my goal

Im 35 now, maybe by the time im 40!!!


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06 Jun 2014 13:12 #170087 by Nate40
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That is a mighty goal bru. Wow

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06 Jun 2014 13:30 - 06 Jun 2014 13:30 #170093 by Oupa
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AlexRon wrote:

Oupa wrote: You are concerned about the strain Nolvadex has on the liver but you plan to use dbols ? :P


Oupa, in the readings provided, Dbol does not have:

"Tamoxifen is toxic to the liver and liver cancer is a concern. A scary study carried out clearly states that liver damage occurred in every animal that was administered by this drug"

But does have:
"Milk Thristle is necessary"

Which in my mind tells me all will be ok if I take that while taking Dbols!!!


You seem educated enough to do this by yourself. :huh: Good Luck.
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06 Jun 2014 13:41 #170097 by AlexRon
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Is there an alternative to the Dbols that I could consider running with my test?

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06 Jun 2014 13:42 #170098 by MikeM
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Tbol is a little less heavy on the body.

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06 Jun 2014 14:07 - 06 Jun 2014 14:13 #170103 by mike123
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All orals are liver toxic ...only Anavar is less but still toxic and then primo wich works differant is not liver toxic ...If I was u I would go to the doc and ask for your liver to be checked ..u piss in a cup and they can tell u ...u had the problem at 11 and now u 35 I am sure it would have recovered / healed but make sure ...the liver does heal itself ...then if all is ok start milk thistle a week before and essential on cycle and MONITOR yourself any signs of blood in the urine or lower back pains u in the k*ck so stop ....use 30 mg of Dbol only would be enough ... B)
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06 Jun 2014 14:20 #170107 by AlexRon
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Awesome Mike

Thanks bud, sounds like a solid plan

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07 Jun 2014 08:36 #170137 by AlexRon
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Morning All

Would like to ask about the gains at the end of the cycle

If the PCT is followed correctly and Im eating according to my new weight at the end of the cycle, what are the chances ill lose some of the gains and if so how much based on the following example

Example
90kg - current
After course - 100kg

How much of this will be water weight on the course im doing?
What can I expect my weight to drop to after the course?

And how do I keep my body at 100 if at all possible

Also how long do I have to wait before I can start my next course?

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07 Jun 2014 10:53 - 07 Jun 2014 10:54 #170148 by T-Style
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All depends but bank on at least half or possibly more bud.
If you eating clean and really kick your training up a couple notches during pct it will be a little less than half.
Training when you come off gear is the hardest part as you lose stamina and strength so you have to mentally prepare yourself for that.
You have to even stricter with diet and training during pct to avoid major loss.
Unfortunately it's almost impossible to keep all your gains sadly.

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