Recomp/cutting

Afternoon everyone.

Id like to ask some advice for a cycle I would like to run.

Please see my stats.

COMPLETE stats;

Age: 29
Height: 179cm
Weight: 91.5kg (110kg at 04/2016)
Body fat %: 13.5 (30% at 04/2016)
Years of training: 3 years on, 12 off 1.5 on
Complete cycle history: Ran 4 weeks of winny 12 years ago.
PCT for each cycle: none
Goals: Recomp/cut
Supplements: Creatine (stopped taking whey)
General idea of nutrition: I follow a low cal high fat diet. +- 60% fat and 30% protein.
Any other relevant info: I take several meds on a chronic basis
1. Prexum (for high BP)
2.Serdep (anti depressant for anxiety)
3. Simvastatin (high cholesterol, was prescribed in Jan 2016 before I lost any weight)
4. Concerta (ADHD)
5. Ivedal (insomnia; may be caused by the Concerta? Switching over to Melatonin soon)

I like to gain a little more lean mass while dropping my bf to about 8%.

I currently follow a 500cal deficit daily with a weekly cheat day.

I think that my bf would maybe be too high to run a AAS cycle efficiently.

How effective would a cycle of GW501516 and Ostarine be to achieve my goals even at minimum dosages? Otherwise, what else would be effective?

I know it sounds like Im rushing but after losing so much weight the last 16 months Im getting impatient and would like to help things along.
I can squeeze about an hour in at the gym everyday and I'm there about 4 times a week, sometimes more. I do 40min of weights and 20mon of HIIT cardio. I use the push pull method on the weights.

Regards

I forgot to mention.

I would like to keep it at about R1000/month.

GW501516 and LGD for 8-12 weeks.

Why don't you get full bloods done again and get blood pressure checked again. It should be better after dropping weight

Hey bud.

I had em redone. My cholesterol dropped to the perfect level but my BP is still high. I think it might be the Concerta (stimulant) which i take at the maximum dose.

I don't know much about concertina other than it being a bastard andif your on it all other stimulants are a no go.

That said you should be good on GW and LGD

Hey Travincal, cheers for the detailed stats mate, makes advising easier. Also, well done on the progress so far, I don't think your desire to accelerate progress to a goal, that you've work long at is unjustifiable or difficult to understand.

Methylphenidate: From all the people I've talked to that have used methylphenidate (Concerta, Ritalin), they never mentioned high blood-pressure as a side effect experienced -and the side-effects usually are noticeable. Brisked through RxList, WebMD, and Drugbank.CA . Only place where I saw mention was WebMD:

This medication may raise your blood pressure. Check your blood pressure regularly and tell your doctor if the results are high.

Ivedal (Zolpidem): On Adco-Zolpidem Hemitartrate myself. Works pretty well if you follow instructions. Melatonin is child's play compared to Zolpidem though. So if your sleeping pattern is fixed, don't wait for the Zolps to run out. Stop the Zolpidem immediately (keep others as spare) and start Melatonin. "Sleeping troubles" is often stated as a potential side-effect of Methylphenidate. But again, none of the people I know that used Concerta has sleep issues. Also, if you are taking your Concerta early mornings, it really shouldn't be the reason for your sleep issues.


1. GW501516 + Ostarine (MK-2866): Cool combo, would lead to improvement.
2. GW501516 + LGD-4033: I reckon this combo is more potent and would lead to better strength and muscle gains.

I also had major sleep issues.

I was on Zolpidem but shit I got major hallucinations at knight. My lady has videos of me reenacting situations that caused what I believe is suppressed PTSD to me in Iraq and Afghanistan. It worked to set my sleeping routine but I didn't even finish 30tabs.

I switched over to Valdoxane (Agomelantine) 25mg at night as you lay in bed ready to go to sleep, and man it works like a bomb I sleep lik a rock and wake feeling good and rested. No funny shit. Speak to your doctor about it.

But Furk also based on what we saw in GuineaPigs results I thing he can Consider GW and RAD 140 also. So now it is only left to decide RAD 140 or LGD 4033

Ah thanks so much guys.

I follow that other guy on Youtube, Dylan Gemelli. One of his stacks are S4 (20mg), Ostarine (25mg) and GW (25mg). Also included "Tongkat ali" followed by a mini pct.

The S4 doesn't seem to be available locally but unfortunately at this moment my budget only allows about a grand a month.

Dude. Dylan is a prick. His cycles are unnecessary with those high dosages and multiple compounds he owns or works for most of the companies that he advertises for so he pushes compounds and dosages to make more profit. Look at him he looks like a carck junky.

We got your back.
In my book for guy it would be GW 50156 with RAD 140 or LGD 4033 look the Rad stack is even more potent than GW and Ostarine but not as potent as GW and LGD.

I just like Rad because it was designed to make your body and tissue act like you are getting a good dosage of Testosterone but with no bloat or water retention witch Is why I would go for it especially on a recomp.

Dylan Gemelli is part of iSARMS and the associated Web store (name I won't mention). So he pushes SARMs heavy, not that they are a bad option. His video's are repeating the same thing over and over and not always going in depth even. Not worth clicking the subscribe button IMO.

@Rooibul: Completely forgot about RAD140 there. LOL look at the time of some of my posts and you'll see why I sometimes don't think everything through. I mentioned LGD immediately cause as I understand it's the strongest for building muscle. But RAD140 might be better suited, I'm not familiar with the subtle nuances of each. Which ones have you used?

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That makes sense.
Ok so to decide between Rad and LGD. Would I be able to run Cytomel with them?

I forgot to mention, I'm running a low carb diet.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: I was on Zolpidem but shit I got major hallucinations at knight. My lady has videos of me reenacting situations that caused what I believe is suppressed PTSD to me in Iraq and Afghanistan. It worked to set my sleeping routine but I didn't even finish 30tabs.

I switched over to Valdoxane (Agomelantine) 25mg at night as you lay in bed ready to go to sleep, and man it works like a bomb I sleep lik a rock and wake feeling good and rested. No funny shit. Speak to your doctor about it.

Jis you and me both. Zolpidem makes do stupid sh*t if I don't get in bed immediately. I won't recommend Zolpidem if you don't have a partner. I often get "drug induced blackouts" where I do random-ass, weird shit and have no recollection the next morning. I've also sleep-walked, sleep-ate, "sleep get in car drive to petrol station and fill it up". All that aside, I've felt so much better since I could sleep again.

RooiBul did you also experience massive trips of euphoria between taking the Zolp and sleeping?


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Travincal wrote: That makes sense.
Ok so to decide between Rad and LGD. Would I be able to run Cytomel with them?

I forgot to mention, I'm running a low carb diet.

You mentioned it in your opening post low carb for the win. It's possible to build muscle on low carb, and even keto.

Regarding T3, I don't forsee any problems or interactions. But I think RooiBul is ahead of me with RAD and LGD.

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I have used RAD 140 yes the 10mg dosing per day once in the am worked fine for me as a bridge on my last 2 Cycles. I am still holding of on LGD 4033 as I am waiting for feedback from 00Pump and tothers using it. My Lasdy has also used Ostarine as a fist Cycles she dit 4weeks at 15mg she recomped and gained strength she was impressed but not amazed. Then she ran RAD 5mg per day for 6 weeks and man we were both amazed. This at the same time as my first bridge with RAD at 10mg per day I kept all my strength and didn't lose muscle only water. She gained muscle and strength and dropped body fat.

In this one how long do you want to go in cycle? It really is your choice between RAD and LGD just note that LGD is the more steroid like in terms of muscle gains and potency. For me 10mg of RAD equates to a TRT dose of testerone.

Yeah Furk I have got those Zolp trips

I'm planning on running it at least 12 weeks and throw in some T3 along with it. CouldnI run it longer?

I guess 10mg of rad/lgd a day with 10mg of GW would be it. I see that T3 is available in packs of 50 tabs either in 25mg or 50mg. 25 would be the best first time option it seems.
Would I be able to get from 13.5%bf down to 8% in 3 months?

1% Loss of body fat per month is very realistic in my opinion.

I wouldn't recommend longer than 12 weeks but yeah guys run 14-16weeks on AAS and SARM's are not near as harsh or rough so I can't se a problem with going 16. T3 advice I am going to leave that to Furk.

As this is your first time on SARM's I say give the RAD a go but if you decide you want to run the LGD then cool. Either way do PCT 1 after it.

So I guess the only question is will RAD and LGD be anabolic enough to offset the catabolism of the T3?

Should I rather drop the T3?

Would it not be advisable to maybe look at running Male Hybrid Ripped?

Although I assume that LGD would yield better results regarding muscle gain than Male Hybrid Ripped so I guess LGD would maybe have a more pronounced effect with the recomp then?

The MHR is actually a solid viable option stacked with GW I completely forgot about the new product thanks Outlaw.

Furk I believe LGD 4033 would be anabolic enough to offset the T3 that said I also doubt he or anyone needs to go higher than 40mcg on T3.

I would actually like to try that stack to see for myself if the LGD would offset the T3 Catabolism. I have never done T3 but have always wanted to.

Hmm excuse my stupid question but how would I go about to 'test' if yhe catabolism has been effectively mitigated? I read elsewhere that I should rather skip the T3 if I'm not running test.

I forgot to mention, the reason that want to run for 16 weeks is because I'm going to start studying part time again from about Feb 2018. That's why I'd like to make the most of the time I have available so that I don't neglect my studies tok much.

You taper the T3 dose to up to 75mcg. Every step of the taper should last 3-5 days (going on memory). Both up and down.

Look I think MHR should be enough to counteract catabolism. Some sources even say the anti-catabolic effect of Clenbuterol should be suffice to offset T3 catabolism (although I've seen no proof and don't believe this myself).

Regarding measuring muscle loss, you best just judge by strength and visually (although when loosing subcutaneous fat it's difficult). Only accurate methods are Dexa or Bodpod, which aren't really viable options for most of us.

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Im currently on 40mcg of clen (Ciccone).

From what i read, most people say that Rad was better suited to recomp than LDG and gave better results when not going for a straight bulk.

As soon as my salary comes in ill place my order.