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08 Jan 2010 10:37 #32897 by Muscles101
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Hey all,

Haven’t posted here in a while....hope everyone is well and enjoying their new year!

I have a question..I’ve just finished my second 10 week cycle and want to know what some of you recommend I should try for my 3rd course in 10 or so weeks time?
The first cycle I did was a pure dbl (just at the start obviously) and sust cycle with PCT obviously..nice and simple.
My second cycle was exactly the same as the first but I added deca and oral winny to the mix.

Since my first cycle I’ve gone from about 90kg’s to my current weight at 106kg’s so I’ve been happy with the results so far but I just need to loose some bodyfat.

I read up on proviron so I was thinking of running the last cycle I did again but just add some of that to the mix?

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks :-),
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08 Jan 2010 10:42 #32898 by Jayman
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hey bro, why don't you try losing a bit of that body fat during these 10 weeks (more than enough time trust me) and then run a 15 week super test and eq cycle?
front load with some test prop instead of the d-bol to minimize water retention and maybe run an A.I on cycle?

Train harder than the guy next to you and one day, no-one will be able to touch you

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08 Jan 2010 11:02 #32900 by Muscles101
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Jayman wrote:

hey bro, why don't you try losing a bit of that body fat during these 10 weeks (more than enough time trust me) and then run a 15 week super test and eq cycle?
front load with some test prop instead of the d-bol to minimize water retention and maybe run an A.I on cycle?


Thats a good idea bud. I'll dedicate these 10 weeks to trying to get that six pack. Ill just tweak my diet and do more cardio in addition to my weight training then I should be sorted.

Is supertest the same type of thing as the sust250? Seems to be a bit more potent and works out cheaper right?

What will adding the EQ do for me? (noob question)

The test prop is fat-acting right? That why you recommend using that instead of the dbl to start me off?

Sorry about all the questions. Just making sure I know what im doing.

Shot!

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08 Jan 2010 11:08 #32901 by Jayman
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no worries :)
the super test is a blend of test propionate, phenylproprionate, isocaprionate, cypionate and enanthate.
From a few reviews it seems to lean heavily toward the longer esters (that's why I advised the front load) and guys are seeing very good results from it.
The equi will give you quality mass gains that are very maintainable post cycle and also it will increase you're appetite helping you to pack away more calories.
and yes the prop is a fast acting ester.

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08 Jan 2010 11:22 #32905 by Muscles101
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How should I dose the AI? I never used one before. Think I'll go for Letrozole Oral.

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08 Jan 2010 11:25 #32906 by tiny
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Dammod wrote:

Jayman wrote:

hey bro, why don't you try losing a bit of that body fat during these 10 weeks (more than enough time trust me) and then run a 15 week super test and eq cycle?
front load with some test prop instead of the d-bol to minimize water retention and maybe run an A.I on cycle?


Thats a good idea bud. I'll dedicate these 10 weeks to trying to get that six pack. Ill just tweak my diet and do more cardio in addition to my weight training then I should be sorted.

Is supertest the same type of thing as the sust250? Seems to be a bit more potent and works out cheaper right?

What will adding the EQ do for me? (noob question)

The test prop is fat-acting right? That why you recommend using that instead of the dbl to start me off?

Sorry about all the questions. Just making sure I know what im doing.

Shot!


Super Test 300 (Testosterone Propionate 40mg/ml + Testosterone Phenylpropionate 40mg/ml + Testosterone Isocaproate 40mg/ml + Testosterone Enanthate 100mg/ml + Testosterone Cypionate 100mg/ml)

EQ is very similar to deca with regard to gains,but it less harsh on the shut-down.

Testprop and dbol have a similar effect when it comes to front loading,if u dont like every-other-day injections then go for Dbol.But the Dbol will make you hold more water than with prop.Dbol wont help for a cutting cycle.

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08 Jan 2010 11:25 #32907 by Jayman
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if you're using the letro then 0.25mg EOD should help to keep water retention down, otherwise just keep it on hand in case probs arise

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08 Jan 2010 11:32 #32908 by Muscles101
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tiny wrote:

Dammod wrote:

Jayman wrote:

hey bro, why don't you try losing a bit of that body fat during these 10 weeks (more than enough time trust me) and then run a 15 week super test and eq cycle?
front load with some test prop instead of the d-bol to minimize water retention and maybe run an A.I on cycle?


Thats a good idea bud. I'll dedicate these 10 weeks to trying to get that six pack. Ill just tweak my diet and do more cardio in addition to my weight training then I should be sorted.

Is supertest the same type of thing as the sust250? Seems to be a bit more potent and works out cheaper right?

What will adding the EQ do for me? (noob question)

The test prop is fat-acting right? That why you recommend using that instead of the dbl to start me off?

Sorry about all the questions. Just making sure I know what im doing.

Shot!


Super Test 300 (Testosterone Propionate 40mg/ml + Testosterone Phenylpropionate 40mg/ml + Testosterone Isocaproate 40mg/ml + Testosterone Enanthate 100mg/ml + Testosterone Cypionate 100mg/ml)

EQ is very similar to deca with regard to gains,but it less harsh on the shut-down.

Testprop and dbol have a similar effect when it comes to front loading,if u dont like every-other-day injections then go for Dbol.But the Dbol will make you hold more water than with prop.Dbol wont help for a cutting cycle.


Oh ok I see, yeah I struggle to fit in alot of injections as I dont live by myself so it can be a bit tough making up excuses as to why im in the bathroom for so long haha.

How often would I inject the EQ and what dose?

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if you're using the letro then 0.25mg EOD should help to keep water retention down, otherwise just keep it on hand in case probs arise


If its a oral liquid how do I go about taking it? Just drink 1/10th of a ml EOD if its 2.5mg/ml?

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08 Jan 2010 13:32 #32913 by Empire
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Dammod wrote:

Oh ok I see, yeah I struggle to fit in alot of injections as I dont live by myself so it can be a bit tough making up excuses as to why im in the bathroom for so long haha.

How often would I inject the EQ and what dose?

If its a oral liquid how do I go about taking it? Just drink 1/10th of a ml EOD if its 2.5mg/ml?[/quote]

i would inject 1ml super test and 1ml equipoise twice a week to keep blood levels constant.

yes u will drink 1/10th of a ml eod to get your dose.

also just do your injection in the bathroom when u shower or when u wake up in the morning or just before u go to sleep...

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08 Jan 2010 13:42 #32914 by Muscles101
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djeasye wrote:

Dammod wrote:

Oh ok I see, yeah I struggle to fit in alot of injections as I dont live by myself so it can be a bit tough making up excuses as to why im in the bathroom for so long haha.

How often would I inject the EQ and what dose?

If its a oral liquid how do I go about taking it? Just drink 1/10th of a ml EOD if its 2.5mg/ml?

i would inject 1ml super test and 1ml equipoise twice a week to keep blood levels constant.

yes u will drink 1/10th of a ml eod to get your dose.

also just do your injection in the bathroom when u shower or when u wake up in the morning or just before u go to sleep...



Ok cool thanks for the reply dude.

So will it be ok to be taking slightly more EQ per week then test? Thought you had to take more test then EQ and/or Deca?
The EQ im getting is 350mg and supertest is 320mg.

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08 Jan 2010 13:45 #32915 by Empire
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equi is not a 19nor so it doesnt shut u down to badly like deca,for deca i always say 1.5x deca = the amount of test u need. so if u taking 300mg deca use 450mg test to be safe. 500mg deca 750mg test.. i always run my equi cycles at 700mg and test just slightly lower than that... u will be fine with that..

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08 Jan 2010 13:48 #32916 by Muscles101
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djeasye wrote:

equi is not a 19nor so it doesnt shut u down to badly like deca,for deca i always say 1.5x deca = the amount of test u need. so if u taking 300mg deca use 450mg test to be safe. 500mg deca 750mg test.. i always run my equi cycles at 700mg and test just slightly lower than that... u will be fine with that..


Cool. sounds good to me :)
Thanks so much for the help gents! ;)

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08 Jan 2010 18:04 #32924 by vega5
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djeasye wrote:

equi is not a 19nor so it doesnt shut u down to badly like deca,for deca i always say 1.5x deca = the amount of test u need. so if u taking 300mg deca use 450mg test to be safe. 500mg deca 750mg test.. i always run my equi cycles at 700mg and test just slightly lower than that... u will be fine with that..

I'm looking to run 900mg test and 700mg equi my next cycle. Will this be okay, you think?

Sorry for the hi-jack!

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08 Jan 2010 18:36 #32925 by Empire
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of course thats ok bro, i am just saying equi doesnt cause as much shut down as deca does so your test should be around the same amount as your equi dosage.

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08 Jan 2010 19:22 #32929 by vega5
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djeasye wrote:

of course thats ok bro, i am just saying equi doesnt cause as much shut down as deca does so your test should be around the same amount as your equi dosage.

I was 200% sure that would have been the answer but you never know with you clever dudes. You might have found that you grow a third testicle if you exceed the test dosage or something! LOL

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11 Jan 2010 21:25 #33232 by Muscles101
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I am going to buy 2x viles of EQ and 2x of test. This will last me 10 weeks but ive heard that EQ should be taken for like 15 weeks to get the most out of it. Is it worth paying +-R**** more for more test and EQ to extent it from 10 to 15 weeks? Will I see alot more gains that justify the extra cash?

Shot guys!

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11 Jan 2010 22:26 #33238 by Inja
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Please do not post prices, and please reread the forum rules, thanks.

Yes, I think you will see great benefit from extending the cycle to 15 weeks. :)

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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12 Jan 2010 08:13 #33246 by Muscles101
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Oh shit sorry bro! Wasnt thinking lol.

Cool cool, seems this EQ is pretty pricy. Its really pushed the price of this cycle up compared to other cycles Ive done. Really hope it worth it :-)

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12 Jan 2010 09:23 #33251 by SNOK1986
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Dammod wrote:

I am going to buy 2x viles of EQ and 2x of test. This will last me 10 weeks but ive heard that EQ should be taken for like 15 weeks to get the most out of it. Is it worth paying +-R**** more for more test and EQ to extent it from 10 to 15 weeks? Will I see alot more gains that justify the extra cash?

Shot guys!


Front load it for 8/10 weeks with low doses of hcg until u start ur test. Than run ur test and equi for the 10 weeks after initial 8/10 weeks frontload of equi.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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12 Jan 2010 14:23 #33291 by Happyraven
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djeasye wrote:

of course thats ok bro, i am just saying equi doesnt cause as much shut down as deca does so your test should be around the same amount as your equi dosage.


with Equi being very similar to deca, would the progesterone sides also happen on Equi??

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12 Jan 2010 14:26 #33293 by Empire
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minimal,19nors give u the progesterone issues and equi isnt a 19nor, equi has similar gains to deca but not the same compound bro

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12 Jan 2010 14:28 #33295 by SNOK1986
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So dj u just got home ahhahahaah straight onto the forums.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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12 Jan 2010 14:29 #33296 by Happyraven
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djeasye wrote:

minimal,19nors give u the progesterone issues and equi isnt a 19nor, equi has similar gains to deca but not the same compound bro


Thanks :)

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12 Jan 2010 14:30 #33297 by Empire
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thats how i roll dude ;)

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29 Jan 2010 09:35 #34694 by Muscles101
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Guys just another question....how do I take letro? Do I mix it with anything?

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