Cycle help please - Good Quality gains

Hey there, how you doing?
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> Need some cycle advise or advise on keeping muscle mass....
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> This is the cycle I want to go on
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> Deca 300 and testo for 10weeks (1ml deca and 2ml testo per week)
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> Dianabol 25 - 30mg per day for 1ste 4weeks
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> Oxandrolone 20mg per day for week 7-10
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> This a good cycle?
Any other cycles you may suggest?
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> My goals are to have 44cm biceps (currently 40cm) and have big chest
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> I'm stuggling with my arms, my chest and shoulders grow very fast and
> get very big comparing to my arms? Do you have any advise for me?
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> My arms workout is :
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> Bicep curls (light weigths) + triceps pushdowns (light weights) 20reps
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> Chin ups : 8reps 4sets
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> Dips : 12,10,8,8 reps 4sets
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> EZ-bar bicep curls : 10,8,8,6 4sets
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> Close-grip bench press : 10,10,8,8reps 4sets
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> Dumbbell curls : 8,8,6,6 reps 4sets
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> Tricep push down : 10,8,8,6 4sets
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> Hammer curls : 8,8,6,6 4sets
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> Overhead extensions : 10,8,8,6 4sets
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> Thanx a lot for your time..

You will never build big arms with drop-sets.Do 4 sets x 8 reps,8th rep should be failure.Do your arms on your back training day,also include deadlifts and squats into your routine.

lets see you diet and your stats like height,weight,age bf and years training

Was just gonna ask that. Too much orals.

i'm 1.74m 80kg 25 12% bf and my 4year of trainning
I'm eating roughly 2500calories per day
tranning 5 times per week
monday chest + calf
tuesday back
wednesday legs + calf
thursday shoulders
friday biceps and triceps + calf

Is this your first cycle?

shoe if i ate 2500 calories i'd cut to pieces...

You training looks ok, how many sets you doing per body part? also do you swop biceps with triceps? another thing do you put in as much on Friday as you do on Monday/Tuesday? Why I ask is 5 days a week really taxes me and I swop my stuff around and make sure I start a different body part each week.. never get my body into any kind of routine.. You want to grow your arms, you going to need to destroy them.

well if u are trying to grow u need more calories,i wanna see this diet of yours to see the choice of your 2500calories please post it up...

BREAKFAST
*COOKED OATS OR OAT BRAN WITH ONE EGG 1 GREEN APPLE
LUNCH
*MEDIUM BAKED SWEET POTATO OR POTATO, 1 LARGE SKINLESS CHICKEN BREAST OR HAKE KILLET, BROCCOLI
* DINNER
* BAKED SWEET POTATO, CHICKEN BREAST OR HAKE FILLET, BROCCOLI

Between meals I take a muscle mass shake (optimum nutrition
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BREAKFAST
2 SLICES OF RYE BREAD WHEAT FREE
3 EGG WHITES AND ONE WHOLE EGG
LUNCH
BROWN RICE, TIN OF SOLID TUNA IN WATER,PINEAPPLE, MIXED VEGETABLES
DINNER
GRILLED STEAK
COOKED BROWN RICE OR
SWEET POTATO
GREEN BEANS

Between meals shakes and at night before bed I eat low fat cottage cheese on provitas

I do 4 sets of each exercise and I do 6 exercises per body part. I do one exercise of biceps and then on exercise of triceps and so forth. No every monday is chest and every tuesday is back and so on..........should i change it. So if you say i must destroy my arms, does it mean that i should do arms twice a week or do more exercises or more weights?

U gonna need a better diet than that my man.

So what do you suggest then?

Djeasye does diets..he will sort u out with a lakka diet.

He chargers for the diet but its totally worth every penny.

Im sure he will post his email address up for u.

Stephan wrote:

BREAKFAST
*COOKED OATS OR OAT BRAN WITH ONE EGG 1 GREEN APPLE
LUNCH
*MEDIUM BAKED SWEET POTATO OR POTATO, 1 LARGE SKINLESS CHICKEN BREAST OR HAKE KILLET, BROCCOLI
* DINNER
* BAKED SWEET POTATO, CHICKEN BREAST OR HAKE FILLET, BROCCOLI

Between meals I take a muscle mass shake (optimum nutrition
)

BREAKFAST
2 SLICES OF RYE BREAD WHEAT FREE
3 EGG WHITES AND ONE WHOLE EGG
LUNCH
BROWN RICE, TIN OF SOLID TUNA IN WATER,PINEAPPLE, MIXED VEGETABLES
DINNER
GRILLED STEAK
COOKED BROWN RICE OR
SWEET POTATO
GREEN BEANS

Between meals shakes and at night before bed I eat low fat cottage cheese on provitas

bro,dont take this the wrong way,how can u tell me u are eating 2500calories and u do not have a single gram weight next to the amount of food u are taking in.... it like saying a banana has 100calories in it,but is it a banana the size of your arm or the size of your index finger... u dont quite realise that u need to weight your food... some one can tell me that 1 scoop of whey protein is 22g of protein,but is it a flat level scoop which proably weighs 20g (so there is not 22g of protein in that) or is it a heaped scoop which could weight 35-50g (which means there is more than 22g of protein in that scoop) someone can tell me to have a tablespoon of peanut butter but i can take a teaspoon and fit more on the teaspoon than on a tablespoon...u have to weight your food to be accurate... and u need to up your protein and carbs and fats if u are trying to put on any muscle...

he does only charge pennys for his diets...

I think he should X his price by at least 10X

thanks pump...i will drop u an sms just now dude...need to tell u something

I started yesterday morning with a custom DJ diet and tonight will start my 15 week cycle(WHOPEEEEE!!!!).
DJ's diet makes a helluva lot more sense than my old miserable diet. Will keep everyone updated on diet and cycle.

Footnote: If that ain't marketing then I don't know...LOL...

Why I told you i'm eating 2500calories per day is because the trainer at my gym gave me this diet and said with this I would get roughly 2500calories per day in, where can i find a proper diet then? How many calories do i have to take in if i want to weigh 90kg

Stephan wrote:

Why I told you i'm eating 2500calories per day is because the trainer at my gym gave me this diet and said with this I would get roughly 2500calories per day in, where can i find a proper diet then? How many calories do i have to take in if i want to weigh 90kg

google should be your best friend......

Okey know that I know my diet is faulty and that I must concentrate more on my diet, would you say that the cycle looks good? Or what would you suggest?

the diet is the most important.. first sort out the diet, and train hard, eat correctly, and rest adequately.. then after you have done that for a while, start looking at aas...

cool bro

Stephan wrote:

Okey know that I know my diet is faulty and that I must concentrate more on my diet, would you say that the cycle looks good? Or what would you suggest?

dude diet is 80% of the work,if u are not getting in enough food u will not grow at all even if u are on steroids... its like putting nitrous in a 1.4 and saying u are going to take on a ferrari and win,but what about your breaks(fats) your suspension(carbs) and the rest of your engine(protein) if they are not all upgraded your nitrous is a big waste... u can email me for a proper diet where u will weight everything to the gram and u will see how many calories u really need,i do charge for custom diets but it will be custom to your stats not some cookie cutter diet off the internet... EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED

it would be a valuable investment into your body to follow a diet by DJ.
i have been on a diet he made for me for a week and a half now, HUGE difference... if your diet is in check everything else will follow..

thanx for all your help, i really do appreciate it all

North_Boy1 wrote:

I started yesterday morning with a custom DJ diet and tonight will start my 15 week cycle(WHOPEEEEE!!!!).
DJ's diet makes a helluva lot more sense than my old miserable diet. Will keep everyone updated on diet and cycle.

Footnote: If that ain't marketing then I don't know...LOL...

Can we have before and after pics plz