cycle advise

okay so i have sold my entire cycle and this is what ive got in mind for my next one in a few months time:
(pgw)supertest320 week1-10@2ml per week
(pgw)deca350 week1-10@1ml per week
(british dispenseries)anapolin week1-4@1 tab per day

i would like to ad stanazol, winstrol or prim from week 8-12 and start pct on week13.

i would like to know what cutting steroid i can get from pgw since i dont no the brands products that well and i couldnt see anything on this site.

would value everyones opinions.

How many cycles have you run prior to this one ?

mcpump wrote:

okay so i have sold my entire cycle and this is what ive got in mind for my next one in a few months time:
(pgw)supertest320 week1-10@2ml per week
(pgw)deca350 week1-10@1ml per week
(british dispenseries)anapolin week1-4@1 tab per day

i would like to ad stanazol, winstrol or prim from week 8-12 and start pct on week13.

i would like to know what cutting steroid i can get from pgw since i dont no the brands products that well and i couldnt see anything on this site.

would value everyones opinions.

You don't really get 'cutting' steroids. The only real cutting steroid would be something like Anavar.

But I kind of understand what you asking.. I would if you looking to get hard and keep more gains replace the Deca with EQ and run the EQ for 12 weeks and during week 8 - 12 include Masteron. You have allready run a oral at the start of the cycle that is why I wouldn't advise winstrol oral at the end of the cycle. Other cutting steroids could be Tren and like I said EQ. I don't believe PGW sells Winstrol, hence I never added this to the list.

Week 1 - 3 50mg Anadrol p/d
Week 1 - 12 2ml SuperTest p/w
Week 1 - 12 EQ 400mg p/w (Just over a mil)
Week 8 - 12 Masteron 300mg p/w (2 shots)
- PCT Check out Doctari PCT.

(I would really concider taking Anadrol. Instead take Diabol as it gives you a sense of well being and doesn't supress your apitite quite like Anadrol does and no where near as toxic but on a mg to mg basis the DB will be stronger than the Abombs. So you can actually look at 40mg Dbol week 1 - 4.

I replace the Deca with EQ for a few reasons, 1 being I hate the way 19 nore products act on my system and my manhood and secondly I find I hold 99.9% of my gains when using my cycle with EQ and a proper PCT.

ive done three cycles. one was nomad and the other two was organin and ranvet.

mcpump wrote:

okay so i have sold my entire cycle and this is what ive got in mind for my next one in a few months time:
(pgw)supertest320 week1-10@2ml per week
(pgw)deca350 week1-10@1ml per week
(british dispenseries)anapolin week1-4@1 tab per day

i would like to ad stanazol, winstrol or prim from week 8-12 and start pct on week13.

i would like to know what cutting steroid i can get from pgw since i dont no the brands products that well and i couldnt see anything on this site.

would value everyones opinions.

the cycle you have layed out is perfectly fine
stanozolol and winstrol are the same thing
good growing

u can use stanazol (winstrol as its commonly known as) or if u want the same benefits as winstrol with out the joint pains use the PGW masteron,but remember to pin it eod for the short esters and start pct 2 weeks post your last shot as it contains the enanthate ester so it will take a while to leave your system..300mg a week should do u nicely...

00pump wrote:

You don't really get 'cutting' steroids. The only real cutting steroid would be something like Anavar.

You have allready run a oral at the start of the cycle that is why I wouldn't advise winstrol oral at the end of the cycle. Other cutting steroids could be Tren and like I said EQ.

(I would really concider taking Anadrol. Instead take Diabol as it gives you a sense of well being and doesn't supress your apitite quite like Anadrol does and no where near as toxic but on a mg to mg basis the DB will be stronger than the Abombs. So you can actually look at 40mg Dbol week 1 - 4.

you can cut on basically any steroid if your diet is right
you can even cut on abombs and halo
anavar winstrol tren A masteron are primarily cutting steroids and are used for that purpose

The dbol advice is fine but if he wants to use adrol thats also good and another experience

0pump ask me ur slin question in the slin section

thanks bro. should i use deca or equi?

deca
in a future cycle you should try equi as well and see how it works on you

Do as you feel fit, I would research each product first.

personally i would go with the equi over the deca as deca does shut u down alot worse than equi,and if u suffer from progesterone problems like progesterone gyno u can have a problem with deca/tren,also i wouldnt personally use kessar in pct with using deca/tren due to the progesterone issues,but that is personal choice,i know inja recons u can use kessar and deca/tren but i am not willing to take that chance personally

BBG I will only talk to you on mail, not on this forum. you have my address

cool thank man. my main concern is keeping my gains

0pump the war is over lets just help out those who seek aid
if u need info on slin head towards the slin section

djeasye wrote:

kessar in pct with using deca/tren due to the progesterone issues,but that is personal choice,i know inja recons u can use kessar and deca/tren but i am not willing to take that chance personally

deca/tren is one of the best combos around, just make sure to add in T at all times or you will be in trouble otherwise magnificent stack

djeasye wrote:

personally i would go with the equi over the deca as deca does shut u down alot worse than equi,and if u suffer from progesterone problems like progesterone gyno u can have a problem with deca/tren,also i wouldnt personally use kessar in pct with using deca/tren due to the progesterone issues,but that is personal choice,i know inja recons u can use kessar and deca/tren but i am not willing to take that chance personally

DJ once again I think this works differently on different people. Hence some can use Kessar and not suffer side others can't. But it is true that MANY people find that they cannot use the above mentioned PCT on Deca. And not many people are like myself that would be a test subject. So for safety sakes it would be wise to not recommend it unless a person is willing to try this them self. As much as I don't see an issue as using it for PCT I wouldn't recomend it to anyone else.

agreed pump thats why i said that i choose equi over deca for the fact of there being less problems during pct

The reason I see no problem with the tamoxifen and nandrolone combo is based on the science behind how the SERM works in comparison to clomiphene and based on personal experience. I have safely recovered from Deca using kessar (but of course am not gyno prone).

McPump, deca will give to much better gains (undoubtedly the best mass combo is Dbol/Deca/Test) and strength I feel goes up better as well. But you will hold a lot of water and because of the shut down issue mentioned most find they lose a lot of gains following cessation of a Deca containing cycle. EQ is much leaner mass and I actually find my recovery to be smoother when I use EQ (possibly due to competition with aromatase while the compounds are leaving the body, facilitating better recover). LP has some nice orals that you can chuck in to dry up, and possible compounds include Tbol, Winnie, and Var. If you set on PGW I like the Pumpers idea of running the masteron, but I would actually extend the EQ masteron combination after I have stop the test. This will really help with the drying. Of course you wont get uber dry, but you will notice the effect.

Inja wrote:

The reason I see no problem with the tamoxifen and nandrolone combo is based on the science behind how the SERM works in comparison to clomiphene and based on personal experience. I have safely recovered from Deca using kessar (but of course am not gyno prone).

McPump, deca will give to much better gains (undoubtedly the best mass combo is Dbol/Deca/Test) and strength I feel goes up better as well. But you will hold a lot of water and because of the shut down issue mentioned most find they lose a lot of gains following cessation of a Deca containing cycle. EQ is much leaner mass and I actually find my recovery to be smoother when I use EQ (possibly due to competition with aromatase while the compounds are leaving the body, facilitating better recover). LP has some nice orals that you can chuck in to dry up, and possible compounds include Tbol, Winnie, and Var. If you set on PGW I like the Pumpers idea of running the masteron, but I would actually extend the EQ masteron combination after I have stop the test. This will really help with the drying. Of course you wont get uber dry, but you will notice the effect.

Very true and that is what makes me very sceptical to whether the stories are accurate or they really twisting the reality of their condition by not understand other aspects of their cycle and what the drugs do, eg prolactin itself and nothing to do with the their PCT. If you see how long one can suffer from prolactin sides long after a cycle of Tren / Deca then one can understand why somebody might confuse the drug in PCT to amplify issues around 19-nor. If you compare the genetic makeup of the drugs, as you said it is very difficult is understand why one would react very different with Clomephine as to Nolvadex. On a personal note again I have suffered nothing what so ever with this and probably being one of the most prone people to gyno.

Once again if you are looking to keep near all gains I would do as Inja suggested and drop the Test and continue the EQ and Masteron till the start of PCT you will love the transformation in your body. Please just make sure you eat clean so you don’t put on some really unwanted fat as you won’t be pleased with where you end up after the cycle and the Masteron would also not act the way you want it too. Speak to DJ and get a nice diet if you don’t already have one, if you do run it past him because it probably will need some work. Things work a little different with bodybuilders and when using gear due to increase in metabolism and enhanced protein synthesis I wouldn’t trust any dietician to help get me to where I want to be.

how long would u continue the eq and masteron after stoping the test?

what would u guys advice as pct for this cycle? i was thinking:

pregnyl week13-15@1500iu per week(1shot)
clomid week13-15@50mgs per day

mcpump wrote:

how long would u continue the eq and masteron after stoping the test?

Id run the cycle for 12 to 14 weeks for the EQ to have achieved its goal and you can throw the masteron in the last 4 weeks.. You can stop the test the last 2 or even 3 weeks and just make sure you continue to use HCG during this time. This way by the time you start PCT you all set to go and if your diet was right you should be hard as a rock at this point in time, specially with the masteron having a AI effect.

when should i start letro and at what dose?

mcpump wrote:

when should i start letro and at what dose?

hmm, I would start the Letro from the start of the cycle as it takes awhile to kick in and even longer to get a stable plazma level... 0.25mg pd or eod, not sure how prone you are to gyno

im not realy prone to gyno. so what would u sugest?