William Llewellyn's Testosterone Cycle dosage??

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05 Sep 2011 14:20 #75108 by Ondier
Afternoon brothers

Reading through his cycle's, and he has got a Test cycle for Mass, but I don't believe the dosages are correct?? It is a 7 week cycle,and for beginners nogals.

He says 200mg A DAY for the first week, and work it up over the weeks to 350mg PER DAY on the 6th & 7th week. :blink: That is 2450mg of test a week, what am I missing here? :huh:

Oh and with that he suggests you use Lipid Stable (3 caps a day) and 4g Fish Oil for Cholesterol Support. And for Estrogen support 20 - 40mg Tamoxifen or 0.5mg Anastrozole a day.

And he says this cycle is likely to present the least amount of health side effects of all cycles listed in his book.

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05 Sep 2011 16:35 #75133 by Ontong
There's been alot of talk of doing SHORT cycles some of them only 2 weekers with the longest being 4-6 weeks.
They are normally associated with high test dosages. They same you can get good gains, however not as good as good as the longer cycles.
The plus of doing these short cycle is that you have less side effects as on the long cycles and also not as bad on your lipids
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05 Sep 2011 17:28 #75135 by Ondier
Thanks Ontong

But 2450mg of Test a week is too wild don't you think?

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05 Sep 2011 18:50 #75137 by Koe007
Does seem a bit rough hey, Lol but I think I'll try it next year

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05 Sep 2011 22:45 #75158 by The DAB

Koe007 wrote: Does seem a bit rough hey, Lol but I think I'll try it next year


Wont lie you'll be some other kind after that cycle :woohoo: :sick:

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06 Sep 2011 04:55 #75159 by Ondier
Yes thats a vial a week! :-D

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06 Sep 2011 07:37 #75160 by Koe007
Lol, recipe for a monster :P

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06 Sep 2011 07:46 #75161 by 00pump
I've never tried that dose, but it doesn't sound logical the cycle itself, the dose ye, for a beginner ? no.

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06 Sep 2011 08:06 #75162 by Ondier

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06 Sep 2011 08:11 #75165 by 00pump
When is this book dated from again?

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06 Sep 2011 08:59 #75168 by Ondier

00pump wrote: When is this book dated from again?


It is his 9th edition, 2009

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06 Sep 2011 09:49 #75175 by David.biohazard
Replied by David.biohazard on topic William Llewellyn's Testosterone Cycle dosage??
It is true they say the short cycle in high dosage has little or less side effects. Get in and get out. I have been reading about these sort of cycles from Author L. Rea but definitly agree with 00Pump not for beginners, more for the veteran athlete. I think his thoughts on this matter was for someone who has been on so many cycles, and has done some serious damage to the HPTA function and seriously hit a plateu in terms of growth.

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06 Sep 2011 09:50 #75176 by Ondier
And does anyone now if Lipid Stabil and Liver Stabil is available from Dischem........or clicks?

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06 Sep 2011 10:27 #75177 by Eidolon
Llewellyn suggests Liver Stabil in particular because it is his product ;) Not sure if you get either that or Lipid Stabil locally. I use Liv.52 - naturescript.co.za/index.php/pharmacare/liv-52-tablets.html
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06 Sep 2011 10:40 #75180 by Ondier

Eidolon wrote: Llewellyn suggests Liver Stabil in particular because it is his product ;) Not sure if you get either that or Lipid Stabil locally. I use Liv.52 - naturescript.co.za/index.php/pharmacare/liv-52-tablets.html


Aaaah thats interesting :-)

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06 Sep 2011 12:23 #75215 by 00pump
Interesting, end of the day I can't bash something I have no tried :) But this is one experiment I cannot try, not with Testosterone anyway

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06 Sep 2011 12:49 #75219 by Koe007
Any sponsors I'll give it a bash :whistle:

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06 Sep 2011 12:51 #75220 by Ondier

Koe007 wrote: Any sponsors I'll give it a bash :whistle:


Hehehe- me too Koe. But our results will be different cause I'll pass as a beginner ;-)

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06 Sep 2011 19:02 - 06 Sep 2011 19:03 #75281 by Roozer
I did a 7 week cycle last year and to date it was the best for me short and excellent gains, downside just 2 short i did something one guy in our gym believed in it was pushing 2 grams of test the first 2 weeks. then down to 1 gram, all mixed ester. I did:

week 1-7 supertest 975mg
week 1-2 sustenon oregan 1000mg
week 5-7 tren ent 200mg
week 5-7 masterone mix 400mg

tren and masterone was low dosages, but the first 2 weeks felt incredible, was great small experiment. but to think 2,5g test you could grow nicely it feels like the body forces itself in a stable growth.

Well that cycle of test only is cost effective though mix it with some prop

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06 Sep 2011 20:35 #75287 by spike
id love to try something like that. I love test and so does my body. I'll add that into my wishlist of cycles. IMO only those who dont show major test sides could run something like this safely, but just imagine it... I mean 1000mg of test feels magic, imagine 2500mg!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Um, but im scared of needles...

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07 Sep 2011 06:30 #75291 by Ondier

spike wrote: id love to try something like that. I love test and so does my body. I'll add that into my wishlist of cycles. IMO only those who dont show major test sides could run something like this safely, but just imagine it... I mean 1000mg of test feels magic, imagine 2500mg!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:


:lol: :lol:

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07 Sep 2011 11:19 #75312 by Ondier
A bit off topic but referring the cycle I posted above.

So what can we use for Cholesterol support? I didn't know we have to do that. Llewellyn says that the use of AS can create an unbalanced switch between your good cholesterol (which will lower) and your bad cholesterol (which will rise) levels. He says that creates cardiovascular strain and increasing the risk of cardiovascular disease and myocardial infarction, which is a heart attack if you didn't know ;-)

He recommends Lipid Stabil but it is his own product as stated by Eidolon. So what can we use that is similar to this?


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07 Sep 2011 18:39 #75347 by CHAPEL
on the topic of William Llewellyn i read an article on HCG where it mentioned his review on the revival of hormones post cycle i.e. LH rises rapidly within a few weeks etc, but what made me go :huh: was that the cycle was a 21 week long cycle of 250mg testen a week. Haha looks more like a weird TRT cycle to me, i don't know enough about either topic to comment properly though. Just struck me as a weird cycle.

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07 Sep 2011 18:44 #75349 by Tippster
From my research the 3 main OTC ingredients that support healthy cholestrol levels are red yeast rice, naicin and policosanol. I know that solal has these ingredients but in 2 or 3 different supplements called cholest-away and cholest-go i think
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07 Sep 2011 18:49 #75350 by Tippster
They also have flush free naicin. If anyone comes across a product with these ingredients in it then please post it :)
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