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21 Sep 2011 10:55 #76532 by Hulk#12
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Hi guys I need some help with my Test prop cycle. I want to run it for about 6 weeks.

StuartF suggested a cycle that looks more or less like following:
Week 1-8: 100mg Test prop EOD
Week 1-8: 0.5mg Arimedex
Week: 9: 100mg Clomid each day
WEek 10-13: Nolvadex 20mg each day.

Think that was it. I'll confirm it and change if its wrong. Iv been organising all the stuff and getting it together but can't get hold of Arimedex. Well its very expensive. Is there anything that I can use instead of it? I got told by guy @ gym that I must use clomid and Pregnyl post cycle. And can use proviron and kessar whilst I run the test prop. Then I won't need Arimedex. Is all this necessary. Pls would some1 suggest a cycle like the one above but replacing the Arimedex and just running test prop for 6 weeks. All help would be great.

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21 Sep 2011 11:22 - 21 Sep 2011 11:26 #76546 by STUARTF
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A far as I can remember, the reason I included the a-dex was because of your acne problem. A-dex is quite expensive though so you could run nolva throughout but it will also work out quite steep and it not exactly good for your liver. Proviron is also a good addition but it only has mild anti-estrogen effects and can't be relied upon. What about letro, its a much cheaper AI but it does come with some disadvantages like lowered libido.
Your PCT must have clomid and Nolvadex in it. HCG (pregyl) is optional for a test prop only cycle.
Clomid - boosts natural test production, retores HPTA
Nolva - prevents estrogen build-up post cycle.

Also be aware, that it not absolutely imperitive that you run an AI with a mild shortish test prop cycle. It will be good idea to have it on hand in case some estro sides pop up though, like your acne (but acne is very hard to manage even with an AI, as we mentioned in your other thread).

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21 Sep 2011 11:25 #76547 by TestFreak
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yes proviron and kessar can be used on cycle. kessar has the potential to hinder gains a little. but im sure proviron at 50mg ed would do. maybe have the kessar on hand incase of gyno flare ups.definitely wont be as effective as adex though.

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22 Sep 2011 23:35 #76744 by Hulk#12
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Hi guys ok well I'm nearly done wit getting what I need and knowing exactly how to do this test prop cycle. This is what my cycle would look like:
Week 1-6: Test Prop 100mg EOD (6weeks)
Week 1-6: Arimedex 0.5mg per day (6weeks)
Week 7-8: Clomid 100mg per day (1week)
Week 8-10: Kessar 20mg per day(2-3weeks)??

Does that look ok? And would it be a prob if I only inj 300mls test prop a week. So inject monday, wednesday and friday?
And lastly would I start with PCT of clomid and Kessar straight after I finish the test prop? Or do I need to wait a few weeks before starting? Or how it is set up above is that good?

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23 Sep 2011 10:25 #76758 by jackrabbit1
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I'll make a prediction....... 6 weeks wont be enough. Why dont you just go for 8-10 weeks 150mg EOD and make sure?

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23 Sep 2011 10:43 #76763 by TestFreak
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agree with jack. make it 8weeks min. yes u can start pct a few days after test prop.

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24 Sep 2011 11:21 #76826 by Hulk#12
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Thanks for advice. I'll run it longer than 6 weeks to reap the benefits. I'm not trying to get huge or anything as I play soccer. Was going to use it as cutting cycle as winstrol doesn't work with me with the soccer. Shin splints were to hectic...want muscles to look full.

Anyway been looking for Arimedex and wow is this stuff expensive... Looked at Femara and aromasin and they also expensive. Iv searched around for Letrozole like stuartF suggested but can only find it by axio labs haha... And I know how u guys feel about axio... Also found a cheaper arimedex made by axio labs but won't use it... So I'm stuck here.. Need an AI.

Would it be ok if I use 300ml test prop a week? So I'll inject monday wednesday and friday, 100mls.. Would that be sufficient?

What should I do about this AI?

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24 Sep 2011 11:36 #76827 by STUARTF
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Femara is Letrozole. Think its the cheapest AI you're going to find.

You wouldn't be using 300ml/week. That would be almost a coke can full of test prop. You obviously mean 300mg/week. Follow the 100mg EOD protocol.

Mon - 100mg (1ml)
Wed - 100mg (1ml)
Fri - 100mg (1ml)
Sun - 100mg (1ml)
Tue - 100mg (1ml)
Thurs - 100mg (ml)
etc
etc

Some weeks will be 300mg/week and some weeks will be 400mg/week. Don't skip weekends, it will keep your blood hormone levels stable.

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24 Sep 2011 11:44 #76829 by Hulk#12
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Ya that's what I meant. 300mg. Ok will do that. And how must I use femara if that's what I were to use? How many mgs and when to take?

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24 Sep 2011 12:03 #76831 by STUARTF
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If you use femara, the tabs are 2.5mg each

You only need to use 0.5mg EOD so it would be easier to try get LP Letro (Liquid Pharmaceuticals) which comes as a liquid and is easier to dose.

Femara tabs will have to be broken into quarters, or you could run half tab (1.25mg) E4D

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24 Sep 2011 12:54 #76833 by Hulk#12
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I know I can get hold of Femara not sure about letro... Would 1.25g be good enough if I take it every 4 days and will this be good enough for me? Breaking them into quarters might be a mission.

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24 Sep 2011 13:58 #76840 by David.biohazard
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STUARTF wrote: If you use femara, the tabs are 2.5mg each

You only need to use 0.5mg EOD so it would be easier to try get LP Letro (Liquid Pharmaceuticals) which comes as a liquid and is easier to dose.

Femara tabs will have to be broken into quarters, or you could run half tab (1.25mg) E4D


How do you take liquid Letro and at what dosage?

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24 Sep 2011 14:03 #76841 by Ontong
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Test prop is awesome depending on what your goals are, why not just go for test e and do a proper cycle for 12 weeks and this way you gain good experience from a cyle that involves a long ester. This way you can accuratly judge how your body responds to the test.

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24 Sep 2011 14:10 #76842 by Ontong
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Hulk#12 wrote: I know I can get hold of Femara not sure about letro... Would 1.25g be good enough if I take it every 4 days and will this be good enough for me? Breaking them into quarters might be a mission.


On second thought, regarding the type of questions you are asking you sound inexperienced, however you are asking the right questions. Please do yourself a favour and do more research prior to doing your cycle and keep on asking questions until you gained sufficient knowledge in order to do a safe cycle.

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24 Sep 2011 14:59 #76844 by Fakey_AK
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David.biohazard wrote:

STUARTF wrote: If you use femara, the tabs are 2.5mg each

You only need to use 0.5mg EOD so it would be easier to try get LP Letro (Liquid Pharmaceuticals) which comes as a liquid and is easier to dose.

Femara tabs will have to be broken into quarters, or you could run half tab (1.25mg) E4D


How do you take liquid Letro and at what dosage?


LP letro is dose @ 5mg/ml. One drop of letro = 0.1mg. So if u wanna do say .30mg eod then that would be three drops.

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24 Sep 2011 15:49 #76846 by Hulk#12
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Ontong wrote:

Hulk#12 wrote: I know I can get hold of Femara not sure about letro... Would 1.25g be good enough if I take it every 4 days and will this be good enough for me? Breaking them into quarters might be a mission.


On second thought, regarding the type of questions you are asking you sound inexperienced, however you are asking the right questions. Please do yourself a favour and do more research prior to doing your cycle and keep on asking questions until you gained sufficient knowledge in order to do a safe cycle.


I am inexperienced, u right on that... Iv been researching and asking plenty of questions just to make sure I get the best and safest cycle for me.. I am a soccer player. Don't want to bulk. Want to stay lean and be ripped... Winstrol kills my shins and effects my soccer, so guys suggested test prop for me.

I will get Femara and half them and take 1.25mg every 4 days. Arimedex is to pricy so as much as I want to run that in my cycle I just can't. So is femara all good for me?

I haven't started my cycle yet, will only start once I have all the right stuff and know exactly how to do it. Thanks for help guys. Appreciate it.

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25 Sep 2011 23:47 #76893 by Hulk#12
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Week 1-8: 100mg Test prop EOD
Week 1-8: 1.25mg Femara every 4 days
Week: 9: 100mg Clomid each day
WEek 10-13: kessar 20mg each day

That's what my test prop cycle will look like... You guys have even managed to convince me on going with PGW stuff:) so I am all good to go I rate... All the advice has been great. Think this is a very good looking, safe cycle for me...

I will most probably be using accutane whilst on my cycle and after to clear my skin. Hope this won't have an effect on anything... Would I have to use milk thistle? When would I take milk thistle, if I take accutane in morning and night. I heard that once you take milk thistle it creates almost like a bubble around liver so nothing can pass through it for a few hours... Not sure if this is true... Any ideas??

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26 Sep 2011 09:59 #76898 by David.biohazard
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Fakey_AK wrote:
LP letro is dose @ 5mg/ml. One drop of letro = 0.1mg. So if u wanna do say .30mg eod then that would be three drops.


Orally???

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26 Sep 2011 12:16 - 26 Sep 2011 12:20 #76913 by STUARTF
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Yip, you mix the drops into some water and down it. Same as LP A-dex, LPclen & LP T3.

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26 Sep 2011 15:59 #76937 by Hulk#12
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So I'm good to go and everything looks good?? Getting my PGW test prop tomorrow :)

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26 Sep 2011 16:01 #76939 by STUARTF
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Good luck bud, soon you'll be the "monster" on the soccer field.

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26 Sep 2011 16:05 #76940 by STUARTF
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....or should I say 'hulk' on the soccer pitch :P

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26 Sep 2011 16:10 #76942 by Hulk#12
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Haha:) thanks StuartF for all your help and advice. Really appreciate it! I will be a Beast!! Will post progress. Let's do this!!

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26 Sep 2011 20:24 #76966 by Ontong
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Hulk#12 good luck with your cycle bro and don't forget to keep us posted.

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26 Sep 2011 20:28 #76967 by Hulk#12
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Thanks Ontong, will keep you guys informed...

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