Medicinal mushrooms(reishii, cordyceps and lionsmane)

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08 Feb 2023 17:26 #228859 by Daz
Has anyone had any experience using medicinal mushrooms not the psychoactive ones. I, through a friend started experimenting with cordyceps as
i had a friend supplying me grow tubs and it was quite fun but couldn’t grow enough to have my 2-3g a day dose but since then I’ve come into contact with someone that grows cordyceps, reshii and lionsmane using I think a bulk fruiting  method, he sells them in cap bottles from his website. 

I’ve been taken 3 caps of each which works out to 2.1 grams. I’ve also gotten cordyceps and lionsmane for my mother to hopefully assist her memory loss and then I have a neighbour with stage 3 kidney failure and she has been on reishii, in her case people from the hospice come test her liver and her values have remained the same since using them so wants to try another round. 
in my case I don’t really know if there is any effect and I last did bloods in I think September but I’ve done a cycle since then and wld be hard to pinpoint anyway if I did do my bloods if there is a difference.

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09 Feb 2023 10:24 #228865 by admin
I don't know anything about medicinal mushrooms, but it's an interesting discussion so I would like to hear more from anyone with experience.

I've witnessed first-hand how beneficial psychedelic mushrooms can be, so I've read a few studies and listened to a few knowledgeable people and there is most certainly something worth investigating.

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09 Feb 2023 11:00 #228866 by Daz
I’ve given reishii and cordyceps to my neighbour and friend who has late stage kidney failure and only 5 percent use of her kidneys in one month she hasn’t dropped any further, she did send me her readings and said she would like to try it another month. It is a last resort but does seem to be helping even if anecdotal she says she feels better and is able to walk her dogs.

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09 Feb 2023 11:16 #228867 by admin
The question is does the mushrooms physically heal her kidneys? Or does it work mentally which leads to the physical recovery. Without any experience or proof my guess will be the second option.

I'm convinced that the mind can physically heal the body or cause illness for that matter as we witnessed globally 3 years ago.

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09 Feb 2023 11:24 #228868 by Daz
There is a lot behind reishii benafits for blood and liver and kidneys one concern with mushroom suppliments is that they processed by big Chinese companies often and could have heavy metals but these are made locally from stuff he has grown himself and appear to help or if anything do no harm. I agree though I do think alot is mental but glad atleast she feels better. Even if they do work she is at a very late stage of kidney failure.

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09 Feb 2023 12:11 - 09 Feb 2023 12:25 #228869 by admin
Speaking of heavy metals, have you looked into aluminium "poisoning" as a possible cause or contributor to your mother's memory loss? Perhaps she used aluminium cookware or was exposed to aluminium in pharmaceutical products at a stage? Drinking water that is high in silica is helpful.

I don't want to go off topic, but I've recently looked into metal and plastic products leaching into food and pharmaceuticals and aluminium is not getting any attention compared to lead or mercury for example. Not all metals are toxic as you know and many are essential, but aluminium is one of the toxic ones. Plastics, preservatives and GMO foods are the biggest threat to health there is, but it is also getting very little attention.

EDIT: I don't want to sound like I'm obsessed over health, I'm not and the obsession over health in society today is one of the leading causes for people fearing their own shadows or air to be exact. We don't have control over our health, so one should not place too much happiness on being healthy as that will only manifest into a fear of dying which causes unnecessary suffering. My goal is rather to take care of my body as a tool and I do have control over what I expose my body to, so that is my focus here.
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09 Feb 2023 18:54 #228870 by 00pump
I've had great success with microdosing psilocybin. Don't have any experience with the stuff you mentioned bar trying it for cognitive enhancements which it didn't do anything worth noting.

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24 May 2023 09:37 #229109 by Obelix
So for a starter,

What dosage should one be looking at? Never done anything like this before, But do have depression and mood swings. Would be keen to see if this could resolve an issue or two

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24 May 2023 11:24 #229110 by Pompies
I'm also very curious, I've read about it a while back. Apparently it's very helpful in assisting with depression and also addictions like alcholism and smoking. But don't know someone with actual experience to really get some feedback. Would be really nice and helpful if someone with more knowledge and experience can write a article with different dosage and needs

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24 May 2023 13:07 #229111 by Muscleaddict

So for a starter,

What dosage should one be looking at? Never done anything like this before, But do have depression and mood swings. Would be keen to see if this could resolve an issue or two
 
I've found it very beneficial in brightening up and giving more clarity to daily life in general. Also helpful with letting stuff go that's been bugging me that I'm not consciously aware of. But not something I would do long term, just for a booster now and then every 6 months or so for a for about month EOD or E3D. 

I use a high precision jewellery scale to measure 0.1g per dose up to maximum 0.25g. More than that gets a bit much for work dealing with difficult people.  But dose depends on the strain you are getting. Some strains at 0..25g will be too much for demanding high stress work environments. But dosage is directly correlated with body weight, so you would need a higher dose.
 
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24 May 2023 13:34 - 24 May 2023 13:38 #229112 by Shroom Wizard
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Psilocybin, the active compound found in certain species of mushrooms, has been a subject of increasing interest in the field of mental health and addiction treatment. While the therapeutic potential of psilocybin is still being explored through ongoing research, preliminary studies have shown promising results in the treatment of depression, anxiety, and addiction.It is important to note that the use of psilocybin mushrooms for therapeutic purposes should only be done under the guidance of a trained professional in a controlled and supportive setting. Self-administration or recreational use without proper knowledge and guidance can be risky and potentially harmful. That being said, here are some general insights on psilocybin dosage and considerations:
Set and Setting: The mindset and environment in which psilocybin is consumed play a crucial role in shaping the experience. It is recommended to approach psilocybin therapy with a positive mind-set, in a safe and comfortable setting, preferably with an experienced guide or therapist present. This is especially important when doing high doses for therapeutic sessions ( Tripsitter)
Dosage: The dosage of psilocybin can vary depending on the individual, their sensitivity, and the purpose of the experience. The dosages mentioned below are approximate and can differ based on various factors:
Microdosing: This involves taking sub-perceptual doses of psilocybin (typically around 0.1-0.3 grams) on a regular schedule, usually every few days. Micro dosing is not intended to induce a psychedelic experience but rather to provide potential long-term benefits such as improved mood, focus, and creativity.
Moderate dose: A moderate dose of psilocybin ranges from 1-2 grams. This dosage level can produce mild to moderate psychedelic effects, which may include enhanced sensory perception, changes in thought patterns, and an altered sense of self. It is often used for introspection, self-reflection, and therapeutic purposes.
High dose: A high dose of psilocybin typically ranges from 3-5 grams or more, depending on individual tolerance. This dosage level can induce intense psychedelic experiences, often described as a "journey" or a "trip." High-dose experiences may lead to profound insights, spiritual or mystical experiences, and emotional breakthroughs. They require careful preparation, a trusted guide, and a controlled environment.
Integration and Support: After a psilocybin experience, the integration phase is crucial for making sense of the insights gained and applying them to daily life. Integration involves reflecting on the experience, discussing it with a therapist or guide, and implementing positive changes based on the insights gained. Follow-up sessions or therapy can provide ongoing support and guidance.
Risks and Considerations: While psilocybin has shown very good potential therapeutic benefits, it is important to be aware of potential risks and contraindications. Psilocybin can induce intense emotions and experiences, which may be challenging for some individuals. People with a personal or family history of psychotic disorders or certain medical conditions should avoid the use of psilocybin. Additionally, psilocybin should not be combined with certain medications or substances, and caution should be exercised to ensure physical and psychological safety.
Addiction: Psilocybin has also shown potential in helping individuals with addiction, particularly alcoholism and smoking. Studies have suggested that a single dose of psilocybin, combined with therapy and support, can lead to long-term reductions in cravings and a greater sense of self-efficacy. Psilocybin-assisted therapy can help individuals explore the underlying causes of their addictive behaviors and facilitate a shift in perspective, leading to lasting changes in their relationship with substances.Lastly, it's worth noting that research on psilocybin is an evolving field, and new findings may emerge that could further enhance our understanding of its potential benefits and limitations. Please note that this information is not intended as medical advice. It is always best to consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making any decisions regarding your mental health or the use of psychedelic substances. Always consult up-to-date and reputable sources, as well as seek guidance from professionals in the field to ensure accurate and responsible information.
 
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24 May 2023 14:00 - 24 May 2023 14:18 #229113 by Shroom Wizard
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From my personal experiences, since being doing it my overall mood has improved although I've never had any mental or anxiety issues I'm mush more focused and my energy levels are up.
My son is turned 30 this year and he has been smoking weed since the age of 16 , he well educated and good in sport but he has got anger issues . He did a moderate session in Dec and started to smoke less weed , I took him for a high dosage therapeutic session in March . Since then he does weed maybe once a month , he general focus has improved and he says his anger issues is much less , he use to have anger bursts which I don't think he had one thus far this year. Also he says he energy levels are much higher , he couldn't wake early in the morning especially over weekend now he even mows his lawn.
Guys it is important to understand that don't expect this to be a "miracle/wonder" cure that happens overnight , don't think I'm gonna do a trip and be well , its a process and differs from each individual. Personally IM not a fan of just start taking or doing micro dosing , I prefer that someone do a moderate dosage 1st then start micro dosing. We are here to assist ,help and provide guidance please ask if you need advise ect
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24 May 2023 16:08 #229115 by Obelix

. But dosage is directly correlated with body weight, so you would need a higher dose.

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But thanks, Thats alot less than i thought one needed. 
Def going to be putting in an order~

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24 May 2023 17:21 #229116 by FungiMaster
Just on a side note. There is a lot of factors that can influence the dosage.
Body weight
Other medications especially SSRIs
General tolerance
Indent

I would suggest if your are looking at microdosing. Take 1 capsule on a Saturday morning. Or any other day you are not going to work or have a full schedule.
As for a session 2g or up. Start small with a buddy that will just observe and keep you company.
Give your body time to get acquainted with the substance.
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25 May 2023 05:28 - 25 May 2023 06:01 #229118 by Shroom Wizard
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Depending on how you bought your mushrooms the best way to consume it is what is known as Lemontek:
Fill a glass about a 1/4 full of Luke warm water, add your mushroom powder then add about 30ml of lemon juice and to dessert spoons full of honey and mix well, consume it in one go.
When consuming it try doing it on a empty stomach , maybe just have a fruit or something light before you do .What is important tom know its about set and setting , make sure to clear your mind and be relaxed You might experience some anxiety initially but just relax and breath .Put on some chilling music ,Spotify, Youtube all got nice playlists to use. A normal trip session last about 4-5 hours depending on the dosage .Make sure to have some water or juice nearby .Afterwards have a nice glass of juice it will taste great.

A link to assist with the dosage:

www.zamnesia.com/magic-mushroom-dosage-calculator
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25 May 2023 08:55 #229119 by Obelix
According to that, Microdose 0.4g

Low dose 1.8g

Normal 4.4g

Lose my face and run naked down the street 6.6g

Im going with a low. Will pop it saturday evening after a family braai when everyone is chilled....

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25 May 2023 09:06 #229120 by Shroom Wizard
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Have you done it before , best to have some quit time around you and dnt indulge too much into the braai, try 2g and enjoy the moment

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25 May 2023 10:28 #229121 by Obelix
Never done it before.
We wont be drinking at the braai (Its for a pastors birthday),

contemplated doing it before.... But i think its safer not to


kids are sleeping at ouma and oupas, just wife and me

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25 May 2023 10:45 #229122 by admin

We wont be drinking at the braai (Its for a pastors birthday),
I think he means that you should not use the mushrooms soon after a heavy meal such as a braai.
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25 May 2023 11:46 #229123 by Shroom Wizard
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Yes that's what I mean , so just a heads up you might feel some anxiety and maybe a little noxious ,just relax lie comfortable on the couch or bed and let it , play some nice chilling music and let the shrooms guide you , please give feedback
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25 May 2023 13:09 #229124 by Obelix
Makes sense, and will provide feedback post haste

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25 May 2023 13:14 #229125 by Pompies
I understand musscleaddict's concept of every 6 months for a Month, makes a lot of sense. Just curious shroomwizard.....why you suggest moderate dosage first before micro dosing? Specific reason for that?

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25 May 2023 13:31 #229126 by Oupa
Never used shrooms, i think i might just give it a bash, been reading alot about it.  

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25 May 2023 15:09 #229128 by admin

Never used shrooms, i think i might just give it a bash, been reading alot about it.  

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25 May 2023 18:22 #229132 by FungiMaster
In my experience to do a full dose before starting microdosing is to clean out the mind. Like rebooting your PC. And then I just use the microdosing like a supplement or vitamin for my brain.

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