HGH by itself

Evening gents

Whom of you have done GH by itself and what type results did you get. If you can also share what type of diet you followed.

I'm considering a GH only cycle for 6 months, but i am struggling to justify the cost of a 6 month GH cycle. I don't know anyone personally that has used Gh so looking for insight from you guys.
And don't need anyone try and convince me NOT to do it, but reasons convince me to actually do it.

Thanks

Depends what your goals are and also what doses you are looking at

HGH will help with injuries, recovery and subtle body recomp-anti aging and rejuvenation and ratio of lean muscle to body fat

Have you done any hgh before and if so at what doses and what's your age?

HGH on its own will not yield great results , it is very good to use to maintain lean muscle gained after a cycle of anabolics ,but works best when used with other compounds like test and insulin. i found that running gh for a long period of time , min 3 months , 6iu every other day yields the best results.

I have never used gh before. Thinking of 6 iu for 6 months. Goal is to get fat down and gain some lean mass. I know this can be done with diet. But with diet my lean mass goes up and down and by what ive read gh gains should be for good even if it is only 2 pr 3 kg

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What protocol will you be doing?

5days on 2days off /
Everyday

Looking at 10 to 12 ui every second day as per doctori. oh yes i am 31

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Question directed to Von D .. Please explain the 5 days on and 2 days off ?? I thought It was every other day split shots .. Or was I wrong ??

Zimbulk88 wrote: Question directed to Von D .. Please explain the 5 days on and 2 days off ?? I thought It was every other day split shots .. Or was I wrong ??

Mainly for cost

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Its simple you take hgh 5 days in a row then 2 days off.Take it in 2 shots in the morning when GH levels are at there lowest and then in the afternoon(4-5pm)before training.to get the timing right is also important.

However i have like 2 friends who run hgh everyday.This obviously depends on your finances.

Ok so as a trainer I work Poes early and free during the day and busy in the evening ! I train most days at 1pm .. I can shoot early morning but should I still shoot 5pmish even though I train at 1pm ??? Hgh is very reasonable here in London so I wi take the every other day high dosage route !

Is there any more feedback with regards to my query?

andre300 wrote: Is there any more feedback with regards to my query?

It will work well if you're goal is gaining a couple of kilos and mainly altering body composition. Also quite high dose.
HGH has a host of other benefits like injury ligament repair, anti aging immune system boosting, but some guys think they're going to pack on size with it and hgh doesn't work like that

@Yohimbe. Not looking to pack on massive size as my lifestyle does not allow massive size anymore. Changing body composition and leaning out would be first prize. If you say high dosage, what are you talking about for a first timer?

10 - 12 iu EOD good enough?

andre300 wrote: @Yohimbe. Not looking to pack on massive size as my lifestyle does not allow massive size anymore. Changing body composition and leaning out would be first prize. If you say high dosage, what are you talking about for a first timer?

10 - 12 iu EOD good enough?

5 IU's per day is a good dose if you have decent quality HGH, i wouldn't go lower than 2 or 3iu per day to get the benefits
If you've got decent quality hgh you should start feeling a tightness in your hands and sometimes your feet at 5iu's per day

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote: @Yohimbe. Not looking to pack on massive size as my lifestyle does not allow massive size anymore. Changing body composition and leaning out would be first prize. If you say high dosage, what are you talking about for a first timer?

10 - 12 iu EOD good enough?

5 IU's per day is a good dose if you have decent quality HGH, i wouldn't go lower than 2 or 3iu per day to get the benefits
If you've got decent quality hgh you should start feeling a tightness in your hands and sometimes your feet at 5iu's per day

Syntropin is all i have access to, will it suffice at 10 iu's EOD?

I now access to humatropin andsytropin and ghrp6. Which will be best?

I haven't used humatropin or sytropin so can't really comment maybe someone else who has used these two brands

As far as GHRP6, is a GH releasing peptide.

Should be used with CJC1295 (without dac) for best results. This causes a GH pulse.

This can be used with HGH to get more bang for your buck-the protocol that seems to work best is to pin the GHRP6 with CJC on empty stomach before bed and then 10min later pin your GH.
This can stretch the effectiveness of the GH making a lower dose of GH more effective

I can only afford 1, so which would be best?

andre300 wrote: I can only afford 1, so which would be best?

GHRP6 is not GH its a peptide for releasing GH-it should be a fraction of the cost of actual GH.
Also not that effective if used alone, needs to be used with CJC1295 to create a good gh pulse.

GHRP6 and CJC1295 together is poor mans alternative to GH-should be nothing like the cost of actual GH.

Can be effective alternative to lower dose GH and can used with GH to boost the effect so you can use it in conjunction with GH and lower your GH quantities-basically saving you money-but there should not even be any sort of price comparative between GHRP6 and actual GH

for GH your choices are between humatrope and syntropin

Thanks yohimbe. That clears it up for me and makes up my mind.

andre300 wrote: Thanks yohimbe. That clears it up for me and makes up my mind.

Pleasure bud-good luck with the cycle

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andre300 wrote: Thanks yohimbe. That clears it up for me and makes up my mind.

Pleasure bud-good luck with the cycle

Mate of mine started a ghpr6 2 weeks ago and he says he can already see fat loss and strength gain. Is this possible? He's had a badshoulder for a long time and says his shoulder isnot an issue at all.

I reckon its placebo though, what do you gents think?

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andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote: Thanks yohimbe. That clears it up for me and makes up my mind.

Pleasure bud-good luck with the cycle

Mate of mine started a ghpr6 2 weeks ago and he says he can already see fat loss and strength gain. Is this possible? He's had a badshoulder for a long time and says his shoulder isnot an issue at all.

I reckon its placebo though, what do you gents think?

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Depends on things like age and bodyfat levels, but I would agree mostly placebo effect. GRHP6 isn't going to create a huge gh pulse alone, needs to be used with cjc to really capitalize on the pulse. And 2 weeks isn't going to completely heal a shoulder injury either
with gh and injuries its a gradual thing, sort of don't notice much but over the course of the month the aches and pains have just subsided, not one day its sore and the next its fine

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote: Thanks yohimbe. That clears it up for me and makes up my mind.

Pleasure bud-good luck with the cycle

Mate of mine started a ghpr6 2 weeks ago and he says he can already see fat loss and strength gain. Is this possible? He's had a badshoulder for a long time and says his shoulder isnot an issue at all.

I reckon its placebo though, what do you gents think?

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Depends on things like age and bodyfat levels, but I would agree mostly placebo effect. GRHP6 isn't going to create a huge gh pulse alone, needs to be used with cjc to really capitalize on the pulse. And 2 weeks isn't going to completely heal a shoulder injury either
with gh and injuries its a gradual thing, sort of don't notice much but over the course of the month the aches and pains have just subsided, not one day its sore and the next its fine

Yohimbine - i know i said i have made up my mind but i have another question, sorry brother.
From a cost point of view GHRP6 + CJC with DAC will be much more cost effective to run that GH, but is it a better option?

No problem bud

Firstly it must be cjc1295 without DAC-DAC is like an ester that will extend the half life to about 8 days whereas without DAC its half life is about 30 min
GH produced by the body is done in pulses. CJC with DAC will cause GH bleed.

This isn't ideal, you want to mimic the body with gh pulses as GH converts to IGF and a constant GH bleed will cause constant conversion which in turn inhibits MGF and release of somatostatin = stopping further gh release.

So you need CJC without DAC to mimic the gh pulse.

There is a study-I do have it somewhere,will have a look, but dosing 100mcg GHRP6+100mcg CJC1295 w/o DAC administered 3x daily can lead up to 5-10 equivalent IU's of synthetic GH injected per day.

The downside is due to the saturation doses you need to administer it multiple times daily-to get best results 3x per day, so that means pinning yourself 3x per day with the cocktail.
They are subq injections but it still gets old.

Needs to be taken on empty stomach as carbs and fats particularly blunt the release of gh

So to answer your question I would say 300mcg GHRP6 and 300mcg CJC w/o DAC daily with good absorption and gh release ie taken on empty stomach, would be equivalent of 5iu daily of reasonable quality gh.

One of the doses must be prebed as this is the strongest gh pulse