Official peptide thread

Would be interesting to see MA, iv got a mate who I'm gonna ask about tests etc, his parents own a lab in my area, what tests would one need to test for? The above mentioned igf and gh levels? ... I'm highly curious and Ill see what damage to the pocket these tests would be, ill write back here tonight on any info I get at gym tonight,

I'm glad we feeling the same effects so far and its not just in my head haha, I must say I have to agree on the shortened sleeping hours, I'm sleeping my normal times and wake up after around 6 hours feeling great, I also tested not pinning pre bed, and I wake up feeling groggy and tired even after a solid 8 hours, so its safe to say sleeping benefits are greatly improved off the peptides

PoisonedPulse wrote: Would be interesting to see MA, iv got a mate who I'm gonna ask about tests etc, his parents own a lab in my area, what tests would one need to test for?

Yep, just test growth hormone and IGF1.

Thanks bud, ill let you know what results are, u say 20min post, and 2hours post, idealy, for the spike and then post it... ??

Draw blood 20/30 mins after. In pigs given ipamorelin by intravenous injection, GH plasma levels peak very quickly at 12 minutes :ohmy: post injection and then taper off. I can't find any data for humans but since sub q shots take a bit longer to get into the system I'm estimating 20 minutes and going on what guys on other forums say.

IGF1 you only need to test once. No point testing twice since IGF1 levels will still be elevated for days after you stop the ipam/cjc and it is expensive.

Pathcare charges R157 to test GH levels. They're going to call me back about IGF1. If we both do the tests maybe we should both do the 20 minute test, and one of us do a 2 hour test and one do a 3 hour test to compare.

bro i spoke to my mate tonight at gym, im going to see him at 9am tomorrow about the GH test, he wasnt too sure about the IGF-1 but will see when i go there tomorrow,

that sounds like a good plan, ill try for the post 2 hour test aswell as the 20minute post, if you could do the same with the 3 hour post would be great and we can compare results,

how are you doing your pins tho? IV?

as i do mine sub-Q

The IGF1 test is R442 so I think I'll give that one a miss for now. A bit steep. The test's name is Somatomedin C if they don't know what you mean by IGF1.

I do sub q shots mostly and IV only post workout so because it peaks faster so I can have my post workout carbs sooner

Eish ya that's very expensive, ill give it a miss too haha, ill see what they charge tho out of curiousity, sweet I'm interested in the results, will post findings soon bro,

I wouldn't do IV as how sure are you that the peptide is not contaminated? The risk outweighs the benefit, also may end up looking like a junkie.

My honest opinion on peptides, I used CJC and GHRP-6 for a month, only thing I noticed was better more deeper sleep, increased appetite especially after injection.
Other than that, no thanks ill stick with GH, peptides do not come close to even a 2.5iu shot of GH.
Granted if you are below 25 and don't have the cash for GH it may be worthwhile, but if you wanna truly grow, GH all the way.

Soooo gonna have to do a raincheck, had my shot earlier, came to the lab, only to find out they don't do the tests, sad thing is they didn't even know what they where, so maybe its better I didn't come here, but maybe saturday morning ill go to ampath labs at my hospital here, they said they can do the tests, bleh,

@koe007 .. I realise its nothing great compared to GH, but I am under 25 and I can't afford GH lol, so just testing the waters with the peptides, I'm enjoying the benefits so far, esp for my shoulder and the sleep, ill still stick to AAS for muscle building for now,

PoisonedPulse wrote: Soooo gonna have to do a raincheck, had my shot earlier, came to the lab, only to find out they don't do the tests, sad thing is they didn't even know what they where, so maybe its better I didn't come here, but maybe saturday morning ill go to ampath labs at my hospital here, they said they can do the tests, bleh,

@koe007 .. I realise its nothing great compared to GH, but I am under 25 and I can't afford GH lol, so just testing the waters with the peptides, I'm enjoying the benefits so far, esp for my shoulder and the sleep, ill still stick to AAS for muscle building for now,

GABA is cheaper and also greatly helps with sleep and increasing GH levels.
Im sorry I just can't find myself buying into this whole peptide craze, I calculated the dosage really needed for optimal results and the frequency of shots needed, plus all the times you can't eat in an effort not to blunt the gh effects and its just too much. The cost at that dosage would be quite high and frequency of pins impractical.

This is just my opinion guys, if it works for you then go for it.

Koe007 wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote: Soooo gonna have to do a raincheck, had my shot earlier, came to the lab, only to find out they don't do the tests, sad thing is they didn't even know what they where, so maybe its better I didn't come here, but maybe saturday morning ill go to ampath labs at my hospital here, they said they can do the tests, bleh,

@koe007 .. I realise its nothing great compared to GH, but I am under 25 and I can't afford GH lol, so just testing the waters with the peptides, I'm enjoying the benefits so far, esp for my shoulder and the sleep, ill still stick to AAS for muscle building for now,

GABA is cheaper and also greatly helps with sleep and increasing GH levels.
Im sorry I just can't find myself buying into this whole peptide craze, I calculated the dosage really needed for optimal results and the frequency of shots needed, plus all the times you can't eat in an effort not to blunt the gh effects and its just too much. The cost at that dosage would be quite high and frequency of pins impractical.

This is just my opinion guys, if it works for you then go for it.

@KOE. If you had to choose cjc/ghrp or GH for the primary purpose of ligament repair, which would you choose

Koe007 wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote: Soooo gonna have to do a raincheck, had my shot earlier, came to the lab, only to find out they don't do the tests, sad thing is they didn't even know what they where, so maybe its better I didn't come here, but maybe saturday morning ill go to ampath labs at my hospital here, they said they can do the tests, bleh,

@koe007 .. I realise its nothing great compared to GH, but I am under 25 and I can't afford GH lol, so just testing the waters with the peptides, I'm enjoying the benefits so far, esp for my shoulder and the sleep, ill still stick to AAS for muscle building for now,

GABA is cheaper and also greatly helps with sleep and increasing GH levels.
Im sorry I just can't find myself buying into this whole peptide craze, I calculated the dosage really needed for optimal results and the frequency of shots needed, plus all the times you can't eat in an effort not to blunt the gh effects and its just too much. The cost at that dosage would be quite high and frequency of pins impractical.

This is just my opinion guys, if it works for you then go for it.

very true bud, iv often found the pinning frequency and my meal planning a pain, but its been about 3 weeks, i have enough for around 8 weeks now, going to ride it out and assess results, if anything worthy.

and im too curious not to try for myself haha, :lol:

Heretic47 wrote:

Koe007 wrote:

PoisonedPulse wrote: Soooo gonna have to do a raincheck, had my shot earlier, came to the lab, only to find out they don't do the tests, sad thing is they didn't even know what they where, so maybe its better I didn't come here, but maybe saturday morning ill go to ampath labs at my hospital here, they said they can do the tests, bleh,

@koe007 .. I realise its nothing great compared to GH, but I am under 25 and I can't afford GH lol, so just testing the waters with the peptides, I'm enjoying the benefits so far, esp for my shoulder and the sleep, ill still stick to AAS for muscle building for now,

GABA is cheaper and also greatly helps with sleep and increasing GH levels.
Im sorry I just can't find myself buying into this whole peptide craze, I calculated the dosage really needed for optimal results and the frequency of shots needed, plus all the times you can't eat in an effort not to blunt the gh effects and its just too much. The cost at that dosage would be quite high and frequency of pins impractical.

This is just my opinion guys, if it works for you then go for it.

@KOE. If you had to choose cjc/ghrp or GH for the primary purpose of ligament repair, which would you choose

No doubt ill go for low dose GH 2.5iu everyday.
My knees were always stuffed,couldn't go low on squats, some of my earlier posts will show this. I have been on GH for almost 2 years and guess what no more knee pains.

Thanks Koe, but I don't think 1 month is long enough to run a GHRP/GHRH combo and for someone used to doing lots of GH I'd expect you to be disappointed. I don't expect any noticeable muscle gains as it doesn't boost GH enough. Fat loss, improved skin tone, good sleep and some recomp is enough for me. If this can help maintain gains post cycle it would be an option to add to PCT and run a month after. There are many guys who are experienced clued up guys who use and get good results from peptides like a ipamorelin/CJC combo. The thing is you have to use them for a long time to get the benefits.

That said I am also a bit skeptical still, but there are plenty of experienced guys who've done this combo for 6 months or more who were very happy with their results. I've been following the posts of a guy just placed top 6 in this year's NABBA world champs and 5x top 6's at NABBA UK champs who has used pretty much every peptide around and he now has been using ipamorelin/CJC and swears by it. Then you get people who say it doesn't do much for them.

There's also a medical doctor who is a bodybuilder on professionalmuscle who's posts I always watch because I always learn something. He did GH blood tests which show that ipamorelin on its own without a GHRH like CJC is pretty much useless but another test he did shows that 250mcg ipamorelin + 100mcg CJC1295 w/o DAC gives a GH serum blood level of 5.3ng/ml after 2 hours, long after levels peak. If you are doing that 3x a day it will still be a bit cheaper than 2.5iu GH a day and will give you more of a GH boost plus it's your own growth hormone.

I don't think any of us on this forum can reliably comment on the efficacy of this peptide combo yet because nobody has run it long enough.

Muscleaddict's Ipamorelin profile: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...rmones/51-ipamorelin