SARMS Cycle with Low Test Levels

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22 Dec 2020 10:55 #224355 by Muscleaddict
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VFI wrote: So the T test was done at around 10:00am but had to do it fasted due to the HBA1C, will follow the same approach of a morning test for the next run.

No yoyo dieting just a consistent deficit with breaks of about a week at maintenance or above in-between, training splits I followed in between were:

1. Full body 3 times a week, Low, medium and High intensity days
2. Legs, Push, Pull once a week higher volume
3. Legs Push Pull twice a week equated volume

Tracked workouts and increased intensity using microplates

See below link to progress pics of the 2+ years, nowhere close to good genetics but its what I could achieve in that space of time


According to this study below Test levels drop significantly after 9am in men under ±45 . With an average 207 ng/dL points lower when tested later in the day. That is on the high end compared to other info I've seen which is usually ±60-100ng/dL less, so it can vary by quite a lot.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4501456/

You don't look like only 65Kg. That's a great transformation so far.

It's good to switch up your training program regularly, but for guys who really struggle to gain muscle mass the full body 3 times a week approach is really not optimal. But it's fine if you are still switching it up regularly with training to failure with heavy compound lifts where you know you can't train that muscle again for at least 3 days.
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22 Dec 2020 18:47 - 22 Dec 2020 18:48 #224357 by VFI
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Muscleaddict wrote:

VFI wrote: So the T test was done at around 10:00am but had to do it fasted due to the HBA1C, will follow the same approach of a morning test for the next run.

No yoyo dieting just a consistent deficit with breaks of about a week at maintenance or above in-between, training splits I followed in between were:

1. Full body 3 times a week, Low, medium and High intensity days
2. Legs, Push, Pull once a week higher volume
3. Legs Push Pull twice a week equated volume

Tracked workouts and increased intensity using microplates

See below link to progress pics of the 2+ years, nowhere close to good genetics but its what I could achieve in that space of time


According to this study below Test levels drop significantly after 9am in men under ±45 . With an average 207 ng/dL points lower when tested later in the day. That is on the high end compared to other info I've seen which is usually ±60-100ng/dL less, so it can vary by quite a lot.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4501456/

You don't look like only 65Kg. That's a great transformation so far.

It's good to switch up your training program regularly, but for guys who really struggle to gain muscle mass the full body 3 times a week approach is really not optimal. But it's fine if you are still switching it up regularly with training to failure with heavy compound lifts where you know you can't train that muscle again for at least 3 days.


that's a big decrease in T, think I'll schedule the test for much earlier.

65kg was the lowest I could get to before the body said no more, resetting cals as empire suggested, will lean gain for a bit and cut down again. Looking to get that deep ab cuts on the next round
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23 Dec 2020 08:37 #224359 by Empire
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well aat 65kgs, you look great, well done, i thought you were basically going for the idea of being a marathon runner at that level.


looking at your abdominal body fat stores, your insulin sensitivity isn't great, and that can be indicative of LOW test and HIGH estrogen, which your blood confirms.

because your insulin sensitivity is impaired, I would suggest a diet that is 40% protein, 30% carbs and 30% fats. the elevated fat levels will also allow for your test to bounce back.
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25 Dec 2020 14:59 #224361 by VFI
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Empire wrote: well aat 65kgs, you look great, well done, i thought you were basically going for the idea of being a marathon runner at that level.


looking at your abdominal body fat stores, your insulin sensitivity isn't great, and that can be indicative of LOW test and HIGH estrogen, which your blood confirms.

because your insulin sensitivity is impaired, I would suggest a diet that is 40% protein, 30% carbs and 30% fats. the elevated fat levels will also allow for your test to bounce back.


thanks for the solid advice Empire, will implement on next run, should I adopt this approach while in a deficit?

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26 Dec 2020 12:37 #224363 by DruOmedra
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That 2 year transformation is insane. You look amazing bro

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