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03 Feb 2009 23:47 #9252 by jo1
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hi doctari, or anyone else will hgh or igf make one longer, i know that bout if u used steroids then after that nothing will make u longer, but is it true, can one get longer with hgh igf or anything else?

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03 Feb 2009 23:55 #9254 by Netro
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Hi Bud, I have no clue what you have just asked. Pls can you explain a little better.

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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04 Feb 2009 07:35 #9256 by dreamer
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lol .......................longer where? jo1 eish

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04 Feb 2009 11:23 #9259 by jo1
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my liggaam, ni my voël ni. lol :laugh:

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05 Feb 2009 08:09 #9278 by Hardstyle
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Does anyone have any indication as to how much IGF costs. is there any1 with a reasonable price out there???

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05 Feb 2009 14:56 #9295 by jo1
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Hardstyle wrote:

Does anyone have any indication as to how much IGF costs. is there any1 with a reasonable price out there???


R4000 for 1000mcg

thats for pharma grade i think, i have seen much cheaper prices.

www.liquid-pharma.com/

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05 Feb 2009 19:41 #9309 by Doctari
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Can only lead to length growth as long as your epipheseal growth plates are still open. I general, these close due to the effect of estrogen - that' why girls are usually shorter in stature than boys, as their estrogen levels are earlier much higher than that of boys the same age. In general, growth plates stop growing around the age of 18-19yrs - that's for long bones. Growth plates of the fascial bones and skull between the age of 21-25yr - one of the reasons to be careful not to use these substances before that age..

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05 Feb 2009 20:25 #9313 by Mighty Mouse
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A bit off the topic i know sorry bout that but i was wondering if someone could put me onto a thread that explains the mixing procedure of the igf 1... I saw on the liquid site its a vial with a powder that you mix which is fine but what i would like to know is how long could you store it for and how much Acetic Acid would you use and also waht type of dosages would you use and when

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10 Feb 2009 09:29 #9404 by Hardstyle
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Hi jo 1

Can u find me a RELIABLE supplier for IGF???

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10 Feb 2009 10:50 #9405 by jo1
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10 Feb 2009 11:31 #9406 by admin
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Hi Guys, Liquid-Pharma has some (1mg) in stock at the moment for R1600, but they don't have AA water for dilution yet. If you can get or make your own water, they should be willing to sell some IGF to you.

I'm taking mine at 50mcg per day reconstituted in 100Mm Acetic Acid that doctari made for me. This is said to keep the fragile IGF-1 molecule more stable than other solvents. This point is heavily debated. AA is an acid and it tends to kill whichever tissue you inject it into. It is best to dilute the IGF-1 with as little AA as can be done, and then to dilute this solution again when injecting so as to damage the target tissue as little as possible.

You spot inject it 45 min after training. Only inject in arms and legs and preferably as far from large organs as possible to avoid roid gut.

You reconstitute 1mg IGF with 2ml AA water, by poking the needle into the LR3 IGF-1 vial and dribble this solution down the side of the vial, avoid any direct spray on the lyophilized powder until all of the diluent is in the vial. Never shake the vial as that will damage the molecule.

For 50mcg, draw about 0.4ml sodium chloride water first then draw 0.1ml of the AA water and IGF. Inject intramuscular.

Reconstituted IGF can be stored at about 4C for about 2 years and about 1 year at 37C.

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10 Feb 2009 15:53 #9414 by Mighty Mouse
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I'm seriously keen to try this but i was wondering if you would give me more info...

So if i'm correct you get 20 50mcg shots out a bottle so how long would you cycle it for and would you only pin on training days.

I am currently 4 weeks into my cycle and still have 12 weeks left i have been using the test en and equi cycle (Pgw of coarse) front loaded with Dbol and am def starting to see results and would like to add the igf to my cycle what do you guys think

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10 Feb 2009 15:59 #9416 by admin
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Yes, 20x 50mcg shots. You cycle it every 20days eg. 20on - 20off - 20on ect.
I inject everyday, even if I don't train.

The best results will be if you cycle IGF for 20days followed by 20days of insulin.

BTW: Zink supplementation helps to enhance IGF.

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10 Feb 2009 16:19 #9422 by Mighty Mouse
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i want to try slin
But to be honest i'm just a bit worried my body fat % is still to high at the moment and read on the other thread that it will just end up making me fatter which i def don't want so what do you think rather use the igf first and then when i cut at the end of my cycle start adding in the slin

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10 Feb 2009 16:23 #9423 by admin
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Yes, also don't use slin for that reason.

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11 Feb 2009 08:35 #9440 by Hardstyle
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Hi im keen on using the IGF, but mainly to increase my bone density especially at my wrists.

Could you guide me in this regard. how should i cycle it and at what dosage



P.S.I just came of a ten week roid cycle

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11 Feb 2009 12:55 #9454 by admin
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Hardstyle, I have no idea what dosages you would use to accomplish that... aren't there better medications to help with bone density problems?

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11 Feb 2009 18:22 #9461 by jo1
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pls anyone doc netro admin correct me if i am wrong but,when one is on igf the gains will not be that dramatic, coz those new muscle cells is still small, but when u do another juice cycle, or juz train as hard they will grow bigger, and you will see a huge diffrence, after the igf cycle?

this is what i understand fron hgh and igf am i right or wrong

ex, like a lot of balloons, (muscle cells) igf gives u more balloons, and juice and/or hard training blow them up, so after a igf cycle u must juz train those new balloons to get biiger...?

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12 Feb 2009 13:42 #9475 by Hardstyle
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Can any1 out there guide me as to what dosage or drugs i could use to increase my bone density and bone width???

HGH/IGF

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12 Feb 2009 13:47 #9476 by jo1
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that's exactly what i wana know,hardstyle, lets juz wait, the doc will awnser soon(i hope). doc?

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12 Feb 2009 16:10 #9502 by admin
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jo1 wrote:

pls anyone doc netro admin correct me if i am wrong but,when one is on igf the gains will not be that dramatic, coz those new muscle cells is still small, but when u do another juice cycle, or juz train as hard they will grow bigger, and you will see a huge diffrence, after the igf cycle?

this is what i understand fron hgh and igf am i right or wrong

ex, like a lot of balloons, (muscle cells) igf gives u more balloons, and juice and/or hard training blow them up, so after a igf cycle u must juz train those new balloons to get biiger...?


Yeah, that is relatively what happens.

Muscle Hypertrophy VS Hyperplasia

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12 Feb 2009 16:12 #9503 by admin
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Muscle Fiber Hypertrophy

The first, muscle fiber hypertrophy, refers to the increase in the diameter of the individual muscle cells. The larger the cells, the larger the overall muscle, it's that simple. Muscle fiber hypertrophy = Big muscle fibers.

Muscle Fiber Hyperplasia

The second, muscle fiber hyperplasia, refers to the splitting of muscle fibers in the interest of creating new fibers. Obviously this would be of interest to anyone pursuing size or strength due to the fact that and if an individual has more fibers, their overall size potential is greater. Therefore when looking at hyperplasia, Muscle fiber hyperplasia + Muscle fiber hypertrophy = Many big muscle fibers. Ahh, the elusive double dose of size!

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12 Feb 2009 17:48 #9509 by jo1
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tnkx admin!

i really think that one with kak genetics,can get fuking big with the help of modern hormones.

is this research company gona be making a hgh product 4 research& oxandrolone??

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12 Feb 2009 23:29 #9529 by Doctari
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Hardstyle, if you are so worried about bone density - have you ever considered testing your b/density with a Dexa Bone Densometry examination. Why would you at the young age that you are, be osteoporotic? There are better AND cheaper drugs out there to increase bone density...

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13 Feb 2009 09:09 #9552 by dbol
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Will you incorporate IGF1 into a proper anabolic cycle, or do you use it as a bridge between cycles, keeping the 20day on period in mind.

Something i am also thinking is to use it for the first 20 days of your cycle, take 20 off and then get on for another 20 days. What is your opinion regarding this protocol?

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