AAS induced Hypogonadism, the HPTA and PCT

Mr T 1984. You said that you had treatment for your low testosterone but then said that the treatment was testosterone injections? All that does is shut down your natural testosterone and HPTA even more (which is the cause of your symptoms) and make you feel better because you have exogenous testosterone in your body to take away all the bad symptoms you were experiencing.

That is just delaying the inevitable. If your HPTA is messed up and you need to see if the problem is in the brain, or the testes or both. Giving testosterone injections just masks the problem which is known as hypogonadism if your testosterone is consistently low.

The primary cause of ASIH (google that) in guys who continuously cycle without PCT or sufficient time off are Hypothalamic and Pituitary Shut Down and Testicular shutdown as mentioned above. You more than likely have hypothalamic/pituitary dysfunction and HCG does not help that. Only SERMS and time off will help that. HCG will help prevent testicular dysfunction but that's all. So even if you do HCG on cycle now you will most likely still have problems when you're off if you do a cycle before everything is back to normal. You'll either have to consider going on permanent HRT, or start the long process of trying to get your testosterone levels back to the normal range.

What exactly did the doc do to help you? When did you stop treatment?

HCG should be used on cycle rather than during PCT.

it was one injection i got and that was it few month later i had a full range of blood tests done.

i did request that everything be check and well everything came back just fine, have since been checked again and my levels seem normal.

have not been on a cycle in ages

You're very lucky. Good that you've taken a long time off.

Hey all,

So after reading this thread and learning about Doctaris PCT, I am a little confused.

I'm running a 12 week Test E 500mg per week and going to follow PCT protocol 2.

I did not use HCG during cycle (wish I did). I've read this is better.

Now the question is, should I still run HCG during my PCT? I'm scared because now I read that HCG will prevent Clomid and Nolvadex from being as effective.

Should I scrap hcg from pct?

look at the article section on PCT protocol 3

Like Pump Said look at PCT 3.
I have used PCT 2 and 3 numerous times just prefer 3 and blood work also shows that 3 works better for me

Will there be a problem if I follow PCT 2?

At this stage I will struggle to find aromosin.

However, I do have Liquid Letrozole but not sure if this can be used instead? Also not sure to what dosage.