Gyno removal after cycle

Novice!
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09 Sep 2009 23:25 #22280 by Novice!

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Hi everyone,

I've just come off a cycle of test e @ 700mg p/w and I've just finished my PCT and maintaining strength and weight nicely.
However while i was on cycle i got some gyno in my left nipple, i started taking letro up until my PCT but then stopped it because i didnt want the letro messing with my test recovery.

So now the gyno hasn't been removed yet and it got slightly more sensitive when i was using HCG but I managed to get through the full PCT with not to many hassles.

Now obviously i need to get rid of this gyno,
Im expecting the zero sex drive but im more worried about my test levels that are just stabalising.
From wat i've read letro seems to increase LH and FSH so i should be fine using it post PCT?
And then coming off the letro with a few days of nolva just to prevent the massive estrogen rebound?

Will this work? Or have I just wasted my PCT

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Inja
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09 Sep 2009 23:54 #22285 by Inja

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Would've been better to run it strait after cycle as part of an extended PCT. But now just run like you propose, letro then Kessar. Both will not decrease test.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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10 Sep 2009 07:56 #22298 by 00pump

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As Inja said... there is some talk that Exemestane (Aromasin) is a better option is PCT due to the fact that kessar doesn't affect the plazma levels, after doing allot more research I have come to the conclusion that is still does... and using an 'AI' will be just as effective.. So letro / adex / Aromasin will all do the job... some other reading has lead me to believe that it can supress 50% of the plazma levels of an AI so just make sure you taking a higher enough dose...

as Inja said I would have gone right through PCT and even further until the gyno has dispersed, but yes it cannot effect your test levels just your estrogen (which you want) and yes low sex drive is not the only effect (hectic dry joints) after 1 - 2 months is another harsh side... You will only understand once you get to this point

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10 Sep 2009 22:41 #22418 by Novice!

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Thanks for the replies guys,

So you reckon i should've taken the letro through my PCT?

What would you recommend me as a starting dosage for now?
I was taking 2.5mg on cycle but that didn't seem to help..

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Inja
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10 Sep 2009 23:48 #22424 by Inja

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Yes through PCT.

How long did you actually run the letro for? It destroys estrogen quickly but the effects on gyno are slightly delayed (estrogen drops, signal to breast stops, gyno stops growing, then only declines).

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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14 Sep 2009 12:45 #22695 by Novice!

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i started off taking 0.5ml p/d for about 10days then bumped it up to 1ml p/d but i wasn't seeing any change in size of the lump but it was less painful. I dropped it to 0.5ml e3d just to keep the estrogen under control till i came off.

Now i've gotten another bottle and have been taking 0.5ml for the last week.. Should i remain at this dosage?

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14 Sep 2009 13:24 #22706 by 00pump

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Different people will tell you different things many will talk from a 'assumption' point of view, I suffer from bad gyno and need 2mg to reverse effects... make sure you taking it each day to keep plazma levels stable... you can try stay on 0.5 and see if it makes any different, give it 3 weeks, if not i'd go straight to 2mg as i feel you wasting your time at 0.5 / 1mg maybe even 1.5, you not using it keep estrogen under control you using it to reverse gyno!!!!! huge difference....

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15 Sep 2009 09:35 #22843 by Novice!

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ok cool thanks ill run 0.5ml for 2weeks then bump it up.
i really want to get rid of this lump! after my last cycle i got a lump in the same nipple but it went away after my PCT..
After how long did yours disappear 00pump?

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15 Sep 2009 09:43 #22845 by 00pump

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I had surgery... mine never... but after surgery I had 'tissue' come back and it went away after about a month and a bit, takes awhile for the letro to get going in my system.

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15 Sep 2009 09:58 #22852 by Novice!

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Ok cool thank you both for you help, will keep you updated on any progress.

cheers

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22 Sep 2009 16:38 #23595 by Novice!

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Hey Guys,

Im on my third week now of Letro, Started on 1.25mg p/d for 2weeks and now im using 2mg p/d.

It does feel as if the lump is getting smaller so im hoping its working. Im going to remain at this dosage for a week or two and increase if neccisary.

In the morning my gyno is quite sore and feels more swollen than later during the day.
Should i split up my letro dosages?

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23 Sep 2009 08:03 #23632 by 00pump

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No need to split the drops.... stay on the 2mg and after around 3/4 weeks it should start working, takes for ever to kick in... have the same issue... but keep the dose constant at 2mg now...

good luck! im fighting the same cause

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23 Sep 2009 14:45 #23687 by Novice!

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Ok thanks, good luck with yours to!

If its sore during the day does that mean the letro is working and its shriveling up in agony

or is it just because its not supposed to be there

I can almost feel as if its losing some mass and is less rounder than before.. Just hope this stuff works

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05 Oct 2009 15:56 #24696 by Novice!

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Hey guys,

Just an update, my lump still hasn't gotten any smaller. I havent been getting sick lately while i was running 2mg where as before wen i ran 2.5mg i was getting sick almost every 2weeks.
I've increased my dosage to 2.5mg and im getting sick, how ever it could just be from this cold weather we've had lately. Starting to doubt if this letro's going to work :unsure:

, and wondering if i should just get over it and live with this lump...

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05 Oct 2009 16:16 #24698 by 00pump

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hmmm , letro kills your immune system, when on letro I take 4mg a day of vit c..... and that stops me getting sick.... hmm, it will take WEEKS to go.... as it takes around 3 weeks to get a stable blood plazma level... as far as my research goes from people who it actually has worked it takes a few months...

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05 Oct 2009 16:35 #24699 by Novice!

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Its so shit tho, i feel sif all the time and any slight flu around me and i get sick.
Will try the 4g vitamin C.
So u reckon i just push through and keep taking it? Im nearing the end of my bottle so need to decide soon

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06 Oct 2009 02:38 #24767 by Lesa

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Novice! wrote:

Its so shit tho, i feel sif all the time and any slight flu around me and i get sick.
Will try the 4g vitamin C.
So u reckon i just push through and keep taking it? Im nearing the end of my bottle so need to decide soon

Yea bro listen dont overstrain the body if the lump is not too big or visible you could consider just taking a break from anything including letro then use letro on cycle at smaller maintenance dosages. My mate was vomitting and also feeling useless on 2 weeks of letro and decided to leave it for now. Maybe you could carry on bro and be ok but When i start feeling my body telling me its taking strain i like to just stop punishing it. If the lump is a bit bigger and really bugging you a small cut can sort that out as well. Also i really hope you eating clean cause letro has a negative effect on good cholesterol. Anyhow that just what i think.

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06 Oct 2009 07:21 #24775 by 00pump

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Hmmm, I feel you could drop the dose to 1.5mg and just keep that dose going for a bit longer, you really have gone so far... try another bottle, but don't let this one finish before you carry on with the other, keep your levels stable... it should shrink it, just don't play with the lump and agrovate it... keep it for another bottle and make sure you have kessar to come off with to prevent the rebound... start taking the kessar for the first 3 days while taking letro then come off the letro..

safe man... PS, I'm going the same route now... and ye it does suck, my whole body felt it, specially my joints, I couldn't bend down at all... and was starting to get me grumpy... peace..

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06 Oct 2009 22:09 #24884 by Novice!

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it should shrink it, just don't play with the lump and agrovate it...

I play with it everyday :blink: ha ha shit, will hav to stop..

Ok cool thanks for the help guys,
@lesa, i do feel my body is taking strain but not hugely. I think im going to keep on with another bottle and see.
If it doesn't go after that ill just run low letro doses on cycle from now on.
00pump, after how long did you start getting joint pains? Im still hundreds in that aspect, just feel sluggish and get sick easily..

thanks again.

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07 Oct 2009 06:53 #24887 by vega5

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A question regarding this. I know men can also develop breast cancer so won't it be a good precautionary measure to go for a test to maybe rule out that possibility?

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07 Oct 2009 07:14 #24888 by vega5

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And yes I know that's the actual use for Letrozole. Catching it early is always best.

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07 Oct 2009 13:57 #24943 by Novice!

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I never thought of that hey vega, might go get it looked at then.

thanks

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09 Oct 2009 21:45 #25267 by Ralf

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When is it time to get worried about gyno. I did a sust and equi early in the year and had no problems.

Now started 600mg test e and 120mg tren a a week ( 2 shots a week) I started the test a week early and only had 2 shots of tren so far but this morning in the shower while moving across my nipple it was a bit sensitive. Didnt bother me again the whole day but when is the time to sort it out?

Cheers.

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09 Oct 2009 22:30 #25270 by vega5

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Ralf wrote:

When is it time to get worried about gyno. I did a sust and equi early in the year and had no problems.

Now started 600mg test e and 120mg tren a a week ( 2 shots a week) I started the test a week early and only had 2 shots of tren so far but this morning in the shower while moving across my nipple it was a bit sensitive. Didnt bother me again the whole day but when is the time to sort it out?

Cheers.

ASAP, catch it before it gets worse .25mg - .50mg Letro would probably do the trick

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02 Dec 2009 13:07 #30432 by 00pump

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Hi guys

well update to this is that I still have the gyno, i'm using 4mg parlodel a day as it has a short half life and using 2.5mg letro I will run it for another month and see if it works..

I did have a chat to a Plastic Surgen who is doing my girls boobs early next year and he said its some fatty tissue and he would say best bet is just to lipo it out he said if im brave i can do it under local ?????????? imagine watching this shit..... hmmmmm... and he said there is no way to remove a 'gland' so you can never get gyno agin... This is the 3rd Surgeon I have spoke to that has said this.. I have no idea where the bodybuilders are getting this info you can cut the gland out and you will never get gyno again... everyone kind of laughs at me when I say that...

I think there is allot of people confused as I very much doubt these guys don't know what they talking about. they do this job daily.

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