Methamphetamine Analog found in popular supplement

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17 Oct 2013 11:47 #154020 by Pyroclasm
The supplement known as Craze has let some sportspeople test positive for methamphetamine. Here is the article:

scoobysworkshop.com/2013/10/15/bodybuild...-craze-crystal-meth/

Here is the artice publishing: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dta.1578/abstract

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17 Oct 2013 11:56 #154024 by Muscleaddict
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Watch how people flock to buy that supplement now lol.

DMAA (Dimethylamylamine from Jack3D etc) also tests positive for amphetamines in many drug tests.

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17 Oct 2013 12:22 #154033 by Oupa
Pyro should have negotiated market shares before posting that lol.

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17 Oct 2013 12:50 #154036 by 00pump
So does my adderall test positive :)

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17 Oct 2013 12:54 #154038 by Muscleaddict
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00pump wrote: So does my adderall test positive :)


Safe to say you don't need a preworkout when you have that in your cupboard.

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17 Oct 2013 13:01 #154039 by 00pump
No, not at all, I take it daily, but need to really watch my cardio with my heart rate, but energy at gym is lovely, because I use it daily it's a sustained released I have till 7pm. Moved from Concerta to Adderall, it's a pity its banned in the country or i'd try get it as chronic on my medical

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17 Oct 2013 14:53 #154063 by jackrabbit1
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00pump wrote: No, not at all, I take it daily, but need to really watch my cardio with my heart rate, but energy at gym is lovely, because I use it daily it's a sustained released I have till 7pm. Moved from Concerta to Adderall, it's a pity its banned in the country or i'd try get it as chronic on my medical


Do you fall asleep throughout the day?

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18 Oct 2013 07:52 - 18 Oct 2013 07:53 #154114 by 00pump

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00pump wrote: No, not at all, I take it daily, but need to really watch my cardio with my heart rate, but energy at gym is lovely, because I use it daily it's a sustained released I have till 7pm. Moved from Concerta to Adderall, it's a pity its banned in the country or i'd try get it as chronic on my medical


Do you fall asleep throughout the day?


Without help for my ADD I am always tired and can't focus on anything, so I need to medicate, now I can get up and do things, energy is great. The body gets used to it quickly I was on 108mg Concerta and I take 80mg Strattera, now moved to Adderall + Strattera, oh and I take a another methylphenidate at 7pm if I need to work later, that gives me another 4 hours.

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18 Oct 2013 12:00 #154142 by jackrabbit1
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00pump wrote:

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00pump wrote: No, not at all, I take it daily, but need to really watch my cardio with my heart rate, but energy at gym is lovely, because I use it daily it's a sustained released I have till 7pm. Moved from Concerta to Adderall, it's a pity its banned in the country or i'd try get it as chronic on my medical


Do you fall asleep throughout the day?


Without help for my ADD I am always tired and can't focus on anything, so I need to medicate, now I can get up and do things, energy is great. The body gets used to it quickly I was on 108mg Concerta and I take 80mg Strattera, now moved to Adderall + Strattera, oh and I take a another methylphenidate at 7pm if I need to work later, that gives me another 4 hours.


Maybe i have something similar, read documentation or just stare at the monitor a bit and i'm gone. Sometimes i doze off and dont even know about it - i get told. Probably some form of narcolepsi..... think i'll have to follow up on it. Didnt know you get stuff like this!

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18 Oct 2013 12:07 #154144 by FIllet
perhaps try the sleep clinic, fully covered by your medical aid. Perhaps you don't get enough oxygen whilst you sleep and CPAP will solve that. My sleeping patterns were running 5 - 3, 5 - 3 throughout the night inclusive was restless leg syndrome.

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18 Oct 2013 12:14 #154147 by mike123
Probabely why I solved mine by jogging...not breathing deep enough ..

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18 Oct 2013 12:28 #154150 by Oupa

FIllet wrote: ......inclusive was restless leg syndrome.


Was this sorted Fillit ? What meds do you take ? Pexola ?

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18 Oct 2013 12:40 #154159 by FIllet

Oupa wrote:

FIllet wrote: ......inclusive was restless leg syndrome.


Was this sorted Fillit ? What meds do you take ? Pexola ?


This is my story Oupa, never had issues with falling asleep during the day till a few months back. Got so bad that I was falling asleep while driving and bumped my brand new audi. Went to seek help and they ran the test etc and suggested CPAP. I gave it a miss cos I don't think I can sleep like that and don't think my wife will be turned on by darth vader.

The sleepy issue only happened when I came off my first cycle. what cured me was FFF. since then I have been fine.

So I cant blame the juice cycle as I don't know any science about this, I do thank the FFF for the constant energy. I am back on juice and fine. Lets see if it happens again when I come off.
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18 Oct 2013 13:06 - 18 Oct 2013 13:31 #154167 by mack
Comment edited: Discussion of recreational drugs is not allowed.

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18 Oct 2013 13:27 #154176 by FIllet
Just so much science behind everything

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18 Oct 2013 13:54 #154183 by mike123
I used to fall asleep during the day couldnt stay awake even if I had a good nights sleep this all but dissapeared after I started jogging 30 minutes 3 times a week something to do with oxygen absortion and breathing too shallow ect ect....but if u falling asleep while driving thats some serious sh*t...

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18 Oct 2013 14:06 #154185 by FIllet

mike123 wrote: I used to fall asleep during the day couldnt stay awake even if I had a good nights sleep this all but dissapeared after I started jogging 30 minutes 3 times a week something to do with oxygen absortion and breathing too shallow ect ect....but if u falling asleep while driving thats some serious sh*t...


My Theory is lower test after coming off cycle, the FFF obviously gave me the edge I needed. When I finished FFF I was back to normal. Two weeks prior to starting cycle no issues and now on cycle no issues.
It was really bad that is why I attended sleep clinic and now gone.
I suppose stranger things have happened to many.

Glad yours is sorted Mikey.

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18 Oct 2013 14:18 #154188 by mack
^ Apologies if I contravened the rules

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18 Oct 2013 14:36 #154189 by Pyroclasm

mack wrote: ^ Apologies if I contravened the rules


Chilled vibes..

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18 Oct 2013 14:48 #154190 by mike123

mack wrote: ^ Apologies if I contravened the rules


U need Narc Anon ph number ? :lol: :lol: just joking bru ...we cant discuss our naughty youth B)

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18 Oct 2013 14:54 - 18 Oct 2013 15:08 #154191 by mike123
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20 Oct 2013 02:58 #154266 by 00pump

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote: No, not at all, I take it daily, but need to really watch my cardio with my heart rate, but energy at gym is lovely, because I use it daily it's a sustained released I have till 7pm. Moved from Concerta to Adderall, it's a pity its banned in the country or i'd try get it as chronic on my medical


Do you fall asleep throughout the day?


Without help for my ADD I am always tired and can't focus on anything, so I need to medicate, now I can get up and do things, energy is great. The body gets used to it quickly I was on 108mg Concerta and I take 80mg Strattera, now moved to Adderall + Strattera, oh and I take a another methylphenidate at 7pm if I need to work later, that gives me another 4 hours.


Maybe i have something similar, read documentation or just stare at the monitor a bit and i'm gone. Sometimes i doze off and dont even know about it - i get told. Probably some form of narcolepsi..... think i'll have to follow up on it. Didnt know you get stuff like this!


Oh Rabbit, you will then love Concerta, www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://1....GYDQ&ved=0CCwQ9QEwAA that's an image from Adderall, look at the difference in the brain, now i sit to work and just don't leave my desk. So much more inspired to complete projects now, i used to do all the technical stuff, let it come to the boring stuff, i had zero attention span. After all these years i refused treatment, now I just bump the dose up constantly. Concerta gives bursts throughout the day, its active for 12 hours, so 7-7 you going, I don't even yawn, hahaa..

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20 Oct 2013 12:40 #154269 by Kkkyle

00pump wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote: No, not at all, I take it daily, but need to really watch my cardio with my heart rate, but energy at gym is lovely, because I use it daily it's a sustained released I have till 7pm. Moved from Concerta to Adderall, it's a pity its banned in the country or i'd try get it as chronic on my medical


Do you fall asleep throughout the day?


Without help for my ADD I am always tired and can't focus on anything, so I need to medicate, now I can get up and do things, energy is great. The body gets used to it quickly I was on 108mg Concerta and I take 80mg Strattera, now moved to Adderall + Strattera, oh and I take a another methylphenidate at 7pm if I need to work later, that gives me another 4 hours.


Maybe i have something similar, read documentation or just stare at the monitor a bit and i'm gone. Sometimes i doze off and dont even know about it - i get told. Probably some form of narcolepsi..... think i'll have to follow up on it. Didnt know you get stuff like this!


Oh Rabbit, you will then love Concerta, www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://1....GYDQ&ved=0CCwQ9QEwAA that's an image from Adderall, look at the difference in the brain, now i sit to work and just don't leave my desk. So much more inspired to complete projects now, i used to do all the technical stuff, let it come to the boring stuff, i had zero attention span. After all these years i refused treatment, now I just bump the dose up constantly. Concerta gives bursts throughout the day, its active for 12 hours, so 7-7 you going, I don't even yawn, hahaa..


Bloody wish I had this stuff while I was studying... Definitely going to give it a try when I get a proper job one day.

Love the buuuuuuuuuuuuuurn! :evil:

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16 Dec 2013 01:09 #158825 by DKSA

00pump wrote: So does my adderall test positive :)


VERY jealous.

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16 Dec 2013 09:16 #158827 by ABC01

00pump wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote: No, not at all, I take it daily, but need to really watch my cardio with my heart rate, but energy at gym is lovely, because I use it daily it's a sustained released I have till 7pm. Moved from Concerta to Adderall, it's a pity its banned in the country or i'd try get it as chronic on my medical


Do you fall asleep throughout the day?


Without help for my ADD I am always tired and can't focus on anything, so I need to medicate, now I can get up and do things, energy is great. The body gets used to it quickly I was on 108mg Concerta and I take 80mg Strattera, now moved to Adderall + Strattera, oh and I take a another methylphenidate at 7pm if I need to work later, that gives me another 4 hours.


Maybe i have something similar, read documentation or just stare at the monitor a bit and i'm gone. Sometimes i doze off and dont even know about it - i get told. Probably some form of narcolepsi..... think i'll have to follow up on it. Didnt know you get stuff like this!


Oh Rabbit, you will then love Concerta, www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://1....GYDQ&ved=0CCwQ9QEwAA that's an image from Adderall, look at the difference in the brain, now i sit to work and just don't leave my desk. So much more inspired to complete projects now, i used to do all the technical stuff, let it come to the boring stuff, i had zero attention span. After all these years i refused treatment, now I just bump the dose up constantly. Concerta gives bursts throughout the day, its active for 12 hours, so 7-7 you going, I don't even yawn, hahaa..


Pump what would the effect be of concerta on someone that does not have ADD? What do you pay for concerta through your medical if I may ask?

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