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25 Apr 2014 09:03 #166570 by FIllet
Hi Peeps, i would just like to share that my 16 year old nephew was put on oral juice by his rugby coach for the last 3 months with no liver support and no knowledge (winstrol and dbol). I suspect something from his incredible change in physique in 3 months, captain of his team and earned his colours.
Considering breaking his coaches teeth out of his mouth:
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Recently had an anxiety attack, was taken to doctor
Night after he had a rage attack, tore down curtains, broke windows, slammed and smashed the house up
Was taken to ordinary hospital where he beat a male nurse and then admitted into a mental institution for 3 weeks, test were run, he was heavily drugged to keep him tranquil and they found the problem. My sister has forced him to stop rugby and keeping a close eye, he metioned that majority of the team are doing it just to win. Makes me sick.

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25 Apr 2014 09:10 #166571 by admin
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Report the rugby coach's actions to the school.
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25 Apr 2014 09:20 #166572 by FIllet
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admin wrote: Report the rugby coach's actions to the school.


I beleive my sister has done that, not close with my sister and her husband but i do love their two kids.
Parents have asked me to stay out of it because they know how i am, one man kangaroo court. I will actually ask her what happened with that...

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25 Apr 2014 09:56 #166578 by Nate40
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Crazy story Fillet. Tough to hear.
But thank you for sharing with us, and please keep us updated.
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25 Apr 2014 10:01 #166580 by Cyclo
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admin wrote: Report the rugby coach's actions to the school.


To the school??? Fk that.

First. Go beat the crap out of him. Then go straight to the SAPS. Say you confronted him and he became violent and you had to defend yourself.

Even if this was done with our without your nephews knowledge it doesn't matter as he is a minor.
Plus the coach isn't an authorised prescriber and dealing with illegal unregistered drugs.

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25 Apr 2014 10:01 #166581 by FIllet
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Not so crazy bud, schools are full of it and more escpecially the rugby teams sworn to secracy.

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25 Apr 2014 10:03 #166582 by FIllet
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CycloTrpTyr wrote:

admin wrote: Report the rugby coach's actions to the school.


To the school??? Fk that.

First. Go beat the crap out of him. Then go straight to the SAPS. Say you confronted him and he became violent and you had to defend yourself.

Even if this was done with our without your nephews knowledge it doesn't matter as he is a minor.
Plus the coach isn't an authorised prescriber and dealing with illegal unregistered drugs.


Shot bud, my intention was to find the coach but again my sister knows how i am and is more civil than I. The neanderthol comes out in me at times like these. 16, FFS.

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25 Apr 2014 10:06 #166583 by Nate40
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That is true Fillet.
Remembering some ugly incidents when I was in school. I went to a top rugby school and it wasn't unusual to see teammates juicing in the off-season, and even helping each other inject.
There were a number of big time rage incidents back then at the school, and having read your post in detail, it wouldn't surprise me if some of those incidents could be attributed to the gear.

Thanks Cyclo. Knowing the rugby guys well, I can't imagine he was taking it without knowledge of what they were. Not blaming him as a minor, just saying. Responsibility of the adult no doubt.

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25 Apr 2014 10:07 - 25 Apr 2014 10:08 #166584 by Oupa
Moering the dude wont solve the problem...

Expose the coach on social media, buy some popcorn and enjoy the show. (be 100% sure you have your ducks in a row)
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25 Apr 2014 10:12 #166585 by Cyclo
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Ok. I've calmed down now too. The priority is now that no criminal charges get laid against your nephew.

But age with exposing the coaches name to social media and newspapers.

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25 Apr 2014 10:15 #166587 by FIllet
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Oupa wrote: Moering the dude wont solve the problem...

Expose the coach on social media, buy some popcorn and enjoy the show. (be 100% sure you have your ducks in a row)


I like the way you keep your cool Oups.
I just figured a beat down opposed to more media on how evil roids are... would be better.

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25 Apr 2014 10:28 #166591 by thePridge
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FIllet wrote:

Oupa wrote: Moering the dude wont solve the problem...

Expose the coach on social media, buy some popcorn and enjoy the show. (be 100% sure you have your ducks in a row)


I like the way you keep your cool Oups.
I just figured a beat down opposed to more media on how evil roids are... would be better.


Sure beating the poop outta him would probably be fun... BUT... he would probably be able to keep the team on his side and quiet. Then they would prob turn it on you and say you were jealous cos your nephew was making major gains and you weren't. The coach would probably swear blind he always told the team to stay away from the stuff... And then it would just be roider vs roider in social media...

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25 Apr 2014 10:48 - 25 Apr 2014 12:44 #166593 by Muscleaddict
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Report him to the police. Even if nothing comes of it, as the team will most likely stand behind their coach, there will be a charge against his name on file. If he does it again and the cops hear about it they won't ignore it the second time around. It will hopefully make him think twice about givings kids steroids in future.
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25 Apr 2014 11:54 #166596 by FIllet
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Muscleaddict wrote: Report him to the police. Even if nothing comes of it, as the team will most likely stand behind their coach, there will be a charge against his name on file. If he does it again he and the cops hear about they won't ignore it the second time around. It will hopefully make him think twice about givings kids steroids in future.


That sounds about best
Ye the kids do stand behind him, the only reason my sister found out was because of the testing. He did not admit to it.

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25 Apr 2014 13:24 #166604 by Nate40
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Definitely the right way to do it. Agreed MA.
Fillet did they just do random testing at the school?

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25 Apr 2014 13:36 #166608 by Cyclo
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Muscleaddict wrote: Report him to the police. Even if nothing comes of it, as the team will most likely stand behind their coach, there will be a charge against his name on file. If he does it again and the cops hear about it they won't ignore it the second time around. It will hopefully make him think twice about givings kids steroids in future.


Also report it to SARU. They will test the whole lot and I can guarantee you when faced with life bans etc and criminal charges those kids will sing like canaries.

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25 Apr 2014 13:44 #166609 by FIllet
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Nate40 wrote: Definitely the right way to do it. Agreed MA.
Fillet did they just do random testing at the school?


No bud, after he went ape shit and had anxiety and rage etc he was hospitalised, went ape shit in hospital within an hour and was sent to the mental ward. They quickly ran mountains of tests and vwaala. He also broke his own nose while he was losing it. Its bad if you break your own nose...
Think it was temporary physcosis, my sister wont give full details due to pride etc but i do know of the winnies and the dbol, probably coupled with the extreme goals he set himself - stress
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25 Apr 2014 13:44 #166610 by FIllet
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CycloTrpTyr wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote: Report him to the police. Even if nothing comes of it, as the team will most likely stand behind their coach, there will be a charge against his name on file. If he does it again and the cops hear about it they won't ignore it the second time around. It will hopefully make him think twice about givings kids steroids in future.


Also report it to SARU. They will test the whole lot and I can guarantee you when faced with life bans etc and criminal charges those kids will sing like canaries.


True dat

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25 Apr 2014 18:43 #166623 by Nate40
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Crazy. Well we hope he gets better soon at least.

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25 Apr 2014 18:44 #166624 by Pyroclasm
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Haven´t sworn like this in a while!! :angry:

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27 Apr 2014 12:15 #166688 by Nate40
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Swearing is acceptable in this case bro. Lucky for him you swearing and not punching

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27 Apr 2014 14:27 #166705 by Oupa

Pyroclasm wrote: Haven´t sworn like this in a while!! :angry:


@ Pyro

Please dont break a nail :blush:

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29 Apr 2014 09:39 #166771 by Nate40
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Hey Fillet,

Just checking in to see if you heard anything about this.
Is your nephew recovering at least? You spoken to him about it?

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29 Apr 2014 16:01 #166823 by FIllet
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Ye bud thanks, he is still on tranquilisers and meds they would give epilepsy patients - dont know why. He lost 11kg at the click of a finger but that was expected.
No i have not spoken to him about it, what would i tell him. Hey little dude, just wait until 25yrs and Uncle Fillet will sort you out with a real cycle :P but for now you are to young :ohmy:

He will survive, shot...
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29 Apr 2014 18:23 #166837 by Nate40
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He is really lucky to have family member like you who can talk from a point of experience Fillet. You should definitely chat to him sometime.

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