HEAT vs Eph

hi, im new to the forum and just looking for some direction with regard to a fat burner


ive been hearing about Eph as a perfect fat burner, and ive heard of heat as a good thermogenic burner.

which one would be recommended with regard to quick results and with the least side effects

also what would the side effects be of taking a pure eph tablet

thank you kindly

In terms of a fat burner i would use clen ,it's the real deal but i wouldn't recommend taking it by itself but in a cutting cycle with something like a keto diet.

bru heat is an e.c.a stack the c stands for caffeine the a stands for aspirin and ill give u one guess what the e stands for..
bud if u can get pure 99.9 percent eph hcl tabs i would buy as much as i possibly could and then i would contact a guy called chemically enhanced on www.anabolicsteroids.coza and i would give them to him to test for me...but i cant see that happening soon

post ur stats goals and diet and guys will help u,THERES NO MAGIC TABLET TO BURN FAT.diet is the main thing that will help u loose fat,speak to dj he will explain to you properly
sweet
goodluck
peace
cheers
later

chemically enhanced wrote: bru heat is an e.c.a stack the c stands for caffeine the a stands for aspirin and ill give u one guess what the e stands for..
bud if u can get pure 99.9 percent eph hcl tabs i would buy as much as i possibly could and then i would contact a guy called chemically enhanced on www.anabolicsteroids.coza and i would give them to him to test for me...but i cant see that happening soon

post ur stats goals and diet and guys will help u,THERES NO MAGIC TABLET TO BURN FAT.diet is the main thing that will help u loose fat,speak to dj he will explain to you properly
sweet
goodluck
peace
cheers
later

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

well i shall be suer to keep him in mind should i get those tabs

thanks for the responses guy


my main goal is to lower my overrall body fat and to tone up

Pumped wrote: In terms of a fat burner i would use clen ,it's the real deal but i wouldn't recommend taking it by itself but in a cutting cycle with something like a keto diet.

what exactly is a keto diet :blush:

i know it might sound like a ridiculius question but all this is real new to me

Hey mate,

Do a search on 'Keto Diets', theres tons of info.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/search

cheers.

chemically enhanced wrote: bru heat is an e.c.a stack the c stands for caffeine the a stands for aspirin and ill give u one guess what the e stands for..
bud if u can get pure 99.9 percent eph hcl tabs i would buy as much as i possibly could and then i would contact a guy called chemically enhanced on www.anabolicsteroids.coza and i would give them to him to test for me...

:laugh: :laugh:

Wet dream, Chemical?

post ur stats goals and diet and guys will help u,THERES NO MAGIC TABLET TO BURN FAT.diet is the main thing that will help u loose fat,speak to dj he will explain to you properly
sweet
goodluck
peace
cheers
later

Bump that!

There is no quick fix my brotha. Get your diet as clean as you can first; get your training up to par; have your cardio levels up AND THEN consider a fat burner which will definitely aid in your endeavours!

You dont need to go hectic keto imho - just eat clean & CARDIO.

Keto is basically a low (almost no) carb diet. That is putting it very loosely. The full term is ketosis. Google it and research for yourself...

Peace...

Get the Diet and training program from DJ... AND get some HEAT. No need to take the long route.... The new HEAT is making some nice difference with me.

is Dj on the forum? and will he forward me the diet and training program or would it be on the forum already....

toby30 wrote: is Dj on the forum? and will he forward me the diet and training program or would it be on the forum already....

He is splattered all over...... but you can find him here www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/contact-us

toby30 wrote: is Dj on the forum? and will he forward me the diet and training program or would it be on the forum already....

He charges for his ""custom""diets but it's totally worth it.

jackrabbit1 wrote: Get the Diet and training program from DJ... AND get some HEAT. No need to take the long route.... The new HEAT is making some nice difference with me.

Ho many pills do you take of the new HEAT per day oom jack and when ,what time do you take them.Ans what sort of enery boosts are you feeling while on heat.

One with my morning vits and another pre workout - about 30mins. Its enough for me.
If i train in the morn i'll take two but one at 7 and then another at 3 or 4 adds up.
I take sleep-eeze at night and havent slept so nicely in a loooooong time. And it helps upregulate the receptors.

I tried taking 4 the other day , as per the instructions on the bottle, and I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Two is enough for me.

oom jack does the sleep eeze contain benzos?i cant take benzos or codein based things...also does the sleep eeze and beta sleep make u feel drowsy when u wake up the next day,i need something to help me sleep cause i can only train at 8 at night and the jack3d and n.o rage combo pre workout keeps me awake?

There is no way Beta-Sleep etc will help in that case. They are really mild and dont contain any nasties. If i take them too close to HEAT they lift the Eph right up and i cant sleep at all.

thanks jack so wat u rate i can take to help me fall asleep but something with no addictive substances,like i cant take stilnox or anything like that

Pumped wrote: In terms of a fat burner i would use clen ,it's the real deal but i wouldn't recommend taking it by itself but in a cutting cycle with something like a keto diet.

heat is also the real deal,dont knock it till u tried it!clen is a good fat burner,but does fuck all for energy and hunger pangs,so Heat/E.C.A stack is more effective,also clen after 2 weeks is rendered useless with out upregulators,where as you maybe come accustomed to the buzz on an eca stack but the fat burning continues for weeks even months as it continue to convert t4 to t3(more power thyroid hormone) through the liver giving you a boost in metabolic rate.

no offence but u dish out your opinion first and then look back and see the everyone elses opinion,there are many ways to skin a cat so just note that before you say something like clen is the only fat burner with a keto diet.its good that u are here to hand out advice all over the show,its good for educating people,but sometimes throw in a little bit more advice and option,your choice is not the only choice out there pumped...

do you know that DBOL can aid in fat burning too???its raises dopamine levels which usually get quite low when on a low calorie diet... did u know that nicotine is also an excellent thermogenic agent???? so dont say clen is the real deal.at the end of the day the best fat burner around there is clean diet,and cardio and training,every thing else helps add to the fire...

chemically enhanced wrote: oom jack does the sleep eeze contain benzos?i cant take benzos or codein based things...also does the sleep eeze and beta sleep make u feel drowsy when u wake up the next day,i need something to help me sleep cause i can only train at 8 at night and the jack3d and n.o rage combo pre workout keeps me awake?

to my knowledge u will be fine on betasleep as it doesnt contain benzos or codine,it is an antihistamine otherwise known as benedryl,look up some information on that and see if u have any conflicts with that,if not go to your doc and see if you can take zopiclone,its the only thing that puts me to sleep on Trenbelones....but dont self medicate,get a prescription! and then also learn from this and drop the pre work out stimulants,rather use proper solid nutrtion,at the end of the day why do u wanna take all these major work out stimulants,i mean how many big muscular crack heads do you see out there???

DJ wrote:

Pumped wrote: In terms of a fat burner i would use clen ,it's the real deal but i wouldn't recommend taking it by itself but in a cutting cycle with something like a keto diet.

heat is also the real deal,dont knock it till u tried it!clen is a good fat burner,but does fuck all for energy and hunger pangs,so Heat/E.C.A stack is more effective,also clen after 2 weeks is rendered useless with out upregulators,where as you maybe come accustomed to the buzz on an eca stack but the fat burning continues for weeks even months as it continue to convert t4 to t3(more power thyroid hormone) through the liver giving you a boost in metabolic rate.

no offence but u dish out your opinion first and then look back and see the everyone elses opinion,there are many ways to skin a cat so just note that before you say something like clen is the only fat burner with a keto diet.its good that u are here to hand out advice all over the show,its good for educating people,but sometimes throw in a little bit more advice and option,your choice is not the only choice out there pumped...

do you know that DBOL can aid in fat burning too???its raises dopamine levels which usually get quite low when on a low calorie diet... did u know that nicotine is also an excellent thermogenic agent???? so dont say clen is the real deal.at the end of the day the best fat burner around there is clean diet,and cardio and training,every thing else helps add to the fire...

I'll take note.I know my opinions are a little biased but I'll be more unbiased next time.

so ive gotten the information on this new heat that is on the market and it is as follows:

1 capsule

HCA = 300mg
Guarana = 250mg
white willow bark - 50mg
L-Carnatine - 100mg
green tea = 50mg
ceyenne pepper extract = 50mg
chromium picolinate - 200mg
CLA = 150mg
taurine = 50mg

so these are the ingredients that make up the new heat apparently. and there is another heat that contains eph. so which one is the real deal actually??

The one that contains the eph it's an ECA(ephedrine,caffeine,aspirin)

so this heat that is offered isnt the real deal....

so i think i will be going for the eph capsules instead...

thanks guys

the one u have found toby30 is Heat2 by PNS nutrition... not the heat we are talking about.

DJ wrote: the one u have found toby30 is Heat2 by PNS nutrition... not the heat we are talking about.

now that makes sense. so heat2 isnt the usual one that spoken about. where is the riginal heat available?