Libido still down after PCT

HI Guys

Attached is the cycle I ran. Last injection was in week 10 (Thursday).
Stared PCT in week 13 (Thursday). However I have still not fully recovered. Libido
and erections not great.
Ran HCG through the cycle. Currently take tribulus 800mg a day.
Want to sort out my libido and erection problems asap. Also had a
great cycle, want to do it again in the future but with an improved PCT, if anyone wants
to assist with some ideas.
Stupid question? But does this mean PCT was ineffective?

Thanks

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Get bloods done. Then take it from there.

PCT helps to get ur natural test levels back up. It helps the recovery,u are going to have to stay clean for a while after ur cycle so ur body can FULLY recover. A Pct is like dettol. It doesnt make the pain or damage go away, it helps the recovery.

Regards

how long ago from pct are we talking here before we jump the gun, how many cycles have u done in the past + was this your 1st time using tren

Get some Cabaser or Parlodel and use for a month. High Prolactin could be the problem. But like I mentioned get bloods done to see what the prob could be.

OOpump mentioned the other day that 20mg (1 tab) Nolva is equal to 100mg Clomid...
Maybe you are giving yourself TOO much clomid.

PCT should have been 100mg Clomid for the first 7 days and then 20-mg Nolva for 30days thereafter! I think.

I suffered from the same thing after my cycle for like 4 days, then all came back.
I found it happened when i took 2 nolva a day... so went back to 1, and all was good!

Little off the topic.... What were your gains like from this cycle??

To much SERMS is no better, to much SERMS you will get a low sex drive.

However, milktuds said it, get bloods done so you know where the problem is. Maybe nothing is out of balance, but your body is used to running at those doses of test. So now that they back to 'normal' levels you not feeling it and you used to the same sexual appetite you had when test was flowing through your veins.

you should be firing on all cylinders... you waited a decent amount of time after your last shot to start pct... the way you should've structured your pct could've been better, for the first 7 days 50mg clomid twice a day,then 500-1000 pregnyl every 2nd day with 20mg kessar and 20m aromasin for 21 days and you should be back to normal....

Thanks for the replies.

This may my 5th Cycle. However it is the first time I have taken Tren. All other cycles were Test E and Equi. With D-Bol front loading and winstrol in the last two weeks.
Started PCT with HCG, Clomid and Nova.
Starting Date 24 Nov.
Started HCG first shot at 1000iu, 50mg Clomid and 40 Nova
HCG thereafter was 500iu EOD (used a total of 5000iu)
Clomid ran till the 8/12/2010 (15days)
Ran Nova Till First week of January.

Yeah, the cycle was great. No side effects that I could feel, no cough nothing. Was horny as hell. Had my best gains and strength went up. Funny thing is I haven't lost and strength yet. Was the best cycle I've done. However I would like to clean up the PCT for my next cycle. Not wild about explaining the equipment failure.
Women jump to conclusions.

With Regards to waiting for my system to recover. How long should I wait? Also I'm taking tribulus at the moment. Should I stop, and would taking SARMS now be a bad decision?

Thanks for the help.

If you are not fully recovered the SARMS will shut you down further.

Fix your libido issue before starting another cycle or if you just mask it with another cycle then you might have a hard time fixing it later down the line.

I have found that out myself the hard way in the past by taking 40-60mg's of Nolvadex a day .I was shutting down my body's sex drive big time.It was difficult to get an erection.Even with another pair of hands helping. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Pumped wrote: Even with another pair of hands helping. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LOL, brilliant!!!!!!!!

i still think its the tren that suppressed your system a bit much so ill wait a week if im still not sure ill get the bloods done and work it , but get the bloods done anyways its better to be sure

pumped guess you don't need a hi five then hahaha

Hi All

Thanks for the comments and assistance. Thinks are starting to look up, excuse the pun.. No all seems good thank god. During my initial panic stages our scouted the net for information. I was reading a blog which stated the base line Test levels drop permanently after a cycle, and after every cycle thereafter. Anyone else noticed this? Also if taking Dbol (Two weeks) Tren, Test E, Equi.. Should I be using anything in my PCT other than HCG, Clomid and Nova. Would like to come off my next cycle with a hard on.. I'm still going to get blood tests done for a base line.. pretty stupid not to have done this before starting any cycles. What should my blood test include... Thanks all

hmmm Base test dropping permanently? i am not too sure about that. That would mean that pros would have no test lvls at all after stopping their massive cycles. A proper PCT should sort it out and bring it back to normal levels again.

Ja if I remember correctly the doc was actually presenting to the board to prove that steroids do not cause perm infertility, and the PCT he recommended will do the trick

I'm not a huge fan of HCG with Clomid so normally on long ester cycles I prefer to hit HCG from just before the cycle end till the day before Clomid.
Then hit the HCG while on Nolva again.

This is honestly one of the sweetest ways of doing it.

HI,

what PCT can I use and where can i get it??? i see on the net that they say you should take clomid for 4 weeks 1 tab a day.... is there an alternative because my " supplier" charges $$$ for 5 tabs...

please help


Dont ask for sources and don't discuss prices - READ THE RULES...

Find a new supplier if your one is ripping you off.

Is there something I can use that does not require a prescription?

No, the PCT is more important than the steroid cycle. The only way around not having a script is to get it from the underground community.

Cabaser or Parlodel, how do these incree labido ? pharma?

Well if prolactin isn't high it will do nothing

i am asking what these are and how they work cause my labido still has not rturned to normal, i came off a heavy cycle of tren, test p, test e and d bol and then sus 250 @750 mg per week aswell as tren, then went on a complete pct( clomid, hcg and finshed nolva today) still labido is extreemly low. i thought that this is normal and it just takes time to adjust?

please advise

1) what is prolactin and how would it effect my labido in this circumstance?

2)Cabaser or Parlodel what are these and how can they help to improve my labido?





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"Prolactin provides the body with sexual gratification after sexual acts: The hormone counteracts the effect of dopamine, which is responsible for sexual arousal. This is thought to cause the sexual refractory period.[6] The amount of prolactin can be an indicator for the amount of sexual satisfaction and relaxation. Unusually high amounts are suspected to be responsible for impotence and loss of libido (see hyperprolactinemia symptoms)." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolactin

Like Pump said above, if the Prolactin levels aren't high the drugs won't do anything.

You best bet is to go for a blood test if you suspect high Prolactin levels. Don't just throw drugs down your throat.