fake pgw?? with pics

scoobyren
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26 Jun 2012 21:03 #110842 by scoobyren

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Hi guys.
i have been on a test and deca cycle for 8 weeks now but have noticed on weeks 4-8 i have not increased in strength and size. today i looked at my test enanthate vials and the labels look very dodge...

please assist me by letting me know if the test e is a definate fake.
below are pictures with test prop and deca350 which i beleive are not fakes as you can see.

look at labelling on the test E vials.

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GregB1
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26 Jun 2012 21:37 #110847 by GregB1

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go have a look at the galery section and see what they should look like.

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Empire
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26 Jun 2012 21:38 #110848 by Empire

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does the bottle have a holovalid like that on the second bottle in the second picture and did u have a brown flip off lid with pgw pressed into the top of it?

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scoobyren
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26 Jun 2012 21:52 #110850 by scoobyren

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yes it did Dj.. but the the whole label looks like its been photocopied.
i gained 8kgs in the first month as soon as i jumped onto the new vials i had just orded my weight and strentgh dropped and is still slowly decreasing even after upping my calories

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getting big
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26 Jun 2012 21:58 #110852 by getting big

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sounds like you got bunk gear prob just olive oil or something :sick:

getting big one rep at a time!

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Muscleaddict
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26 Jun 2012 22:06 - 26 Jun 2012 22:09 #110853 by Muscleaddict

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Could be an original PGW vial that was used, then refilled with oil and then glued the cap on again with something like cyanoacrylate.

What does it smell like? If it's plain olive/grapeseed oil it will smell very different to PGW test E.

It's possible to draw out the test with a thin needle and not spot the needle mark on the rubber.

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Empire
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26 Jun 2012 22:09 #110855 by Empire

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that does sound strange, but 8kgs gain is madness, but the strength drop isnt normal, i dont think the gear has been faked to be honest, if it had those 2 things then its not faked,i know that my last bottle of pgw stuff i got (been stock piling) has also got a shoddy print job but i am very confident on my source so it know its all good... if you dont trust your source then its abit of an issue,but if your source is legit then there might be other factors affecting your strength and weight gain, how many days a week are u training,how many cardio sessions a week, how stressed are u at work or in your love life etc...

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admin
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26 Jun 2012 22:18 #110856 by admin

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I will ask Precision to have a look at the pics.

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GregB1
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27 Jun 2012 07:48 #110869 by GregB1

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I see that there is masking tape holding the white cap on the test prop, did you buy it like that?

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scoobyren
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27 Jun 2012 08:09 #110870 by scoobyren

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thanks admin!

no i put the tape over because i have that prop from my last cycle. (just so i dont damage the vial)

look my diet and train is very good... i am very strict witht the way i train and eat. this is my third cycle and have learnt alot over the years expecially from this forum.
if you would like my stats i dont mind posting. but i would like to know about my gear as soon as possible.

ok so worst case senario... my testE is bunk.. but my deca isnt.
so that means i have had 4 weeks of testE(600mg/week) and deca(350mg/week).
from weeks 4-8 the testE is fake so that means im only taking in deca(350mg/week)

should I: 1. start testE again( order new vials) and deca for another 4 weeks and 2-3weeks of just test.
or 2. should i just end my cycle and start with pct after deca has cleared.

thanks for your help guys. i appreciate it!

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scoobyren
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27 Jun 2012 08:58 #110873 by scoobyren

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i do trust my source as i have used my source many times without any faults.
my diet and training has been very good, i do a bit of mx riding and cycling on weekends as cardio.

day 1 is chest, day 2 is legs, day 3 is back, day 4 is rest, day 5 is shoulders, bi's and tri's, day 6 is legs, day 7 is rest.

only issue i have is a bit of stress from work and i usually can only get about 7 hours sleep every night.

but it has been like this since the beggining of my cycle, i have just upped my calorie intake as the weeks go by to compensate for the weight gain.

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MCJ
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27 Jun 2012 09:09 #110874 by MCJ

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I'm a bit of a weirdo so I keep ALL my empty vials. Kinda collect them. ANYWAY...I have one or two PGW vials with the similar labeling. Not as clear or "crisp" printing as on some other vials. But there is or was absolutely nothing wrong with the gear inside. It all comes down to ur supplier as has been mentioned.

I trust my PGW supplier so much and he is so reputable I will pay for an unmarked vial from him if he has a good explanation.

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GregB1
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27 Jun 2012 10:17 #110880 by GregB1

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Ok just checking

. I have not heard of PGW fakes going around, But its not impossible. Lets wait and see what PGW say about the pics.

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Koe007
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27 Jun 2012 12:06 #110902 by Koe007

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GregB1 wrote: Ok just checking . I have not heard of PGW fakes going around, But its not impossible. Lets wait and see what PGW say about the pics.

I knew a guy in Durban who drew the Juice out of vials like MuscleAddict described and put ear drops or olive oil inside them. Fact. Needless to say he got away with it everytime as he was Huge.

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GregB1
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27 Jun 2012 12:50 #110915 by GregB1

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Koe007 wrote:
GregB1 wrote: Ok just checking . I have not heard of PGW fakes going around, But its not impossible. Lets wait and see what PGW say about the pics.

I knew a guy in Durban who drew the Juice out of vials like MuscleAddict described and put ear drops or olive oil inside them. Fact. Needless to say he got away with it everytime as he was Huge.

I thinks its disgusting for people to do things like that but u rite there are people out there that will do anything to make money :angry:

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scoobyren
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27 Jun 2012 15:01 #110961 by scoobyren

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so any one have any insight one my test vials??

i was thinking of just swopping over to pgw test cyp and continueing deca for another 4 weeks.
im really not happy with my gains... in total i have put on 5-6kgs which was all in the first month.

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Inja
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27 Jun 2012 18:41 #111016 by Inja

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Admin said he will ask PGW about the gear. Patience chap.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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admin
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27 Jun 2012 18:57 #111018 by admin

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I'm not hearing anything. Maybe they closed for the holidays.

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Pyroclasm
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27 Jun 2012 18:59 #111020 by Pyroclasm

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While we are on the topic, have there been any noteworthy incidents of PGW fakes in the past?

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admin
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27 Jun 2012 20:33 - 27 Jun 2012 20:33 #111040 by admin

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Nope

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MRfeathers
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27 Jun 2012 20:44 #111044 by MRfeathers

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Ive never ever heard of a PGW fake for as long as I've been researching gear

keep calm and listen to Feathers

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GregB1
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27 Jun 2012 21:03 #111052 by GregB1

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nope never heard of it either.

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vega5
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27 Jun 2012 21:12 #111053 by vega5

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I think this is anyway a good time to tie down a good source

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Pyroclasm
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27 Jun 2012 21:46 #111057 by Pyroclasm

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That's good to hear! Is there any particular reason why they are so hard to fake? Serial numbers, seals, etc.

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admin
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27 Jun 2012 21:51 #111061 by admin

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It's not that they are so hard to fake, but the guy stupid enough to fake PGW will have ass kicked.

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