Clen + creatine

Howzit guys,

Im planning on taking some anavar and creatine as well.
Would there be a problem if i added some clen to?

no

Be aware when using creatine and clen together it has the ability to cause severe cramping during exercise. The worst is during calve training it triggers off the worst cramps imaginable.

personally i dont understand why you'd use the two together ...?


creatine works by causing a degree of water saturation in the muscles by leaching phosphates into the muscle tissue ... Clen causes a significant drop in water weight .... so i dont really understand why you'd use them together.

@ WOT,
im going to use anavar and i've heard creatine and anavar make a good combination,
i was wondering if by throwing some clen in there would be a problem because i was warned of using heat and creatine as they would 'counteract' each other.

I wasn't planning on stacking creatine and clen but because of the anavar i was wondering if i could, without problems?

Novice! wrote:

@ WOT,
im going to use anavar and i've heard creatine and anavar make a good combination,
i was wondering if by throwing some clen in there would be a problem because i was warned of using heat and creatine as they would 'counteract' each other.

I wasn't planning on stacking creatine and clen but because of the anavar i was wondering if i could, without problems?

what a lot of guys dont understand about certain steroids, and indeed certain compounds is that they are almost reliant on some of the "negative" effects to induce muscle growth ... Dianabol for example , is a great drug for strength training but the bloating is insane ... BUT , that bloating is also what allows dianabol to have its muscle building properties ... the same can be said when guys run too higher dosages of AI's during cycle, it actually impedes gains because there is a relationship between oestrogen activity and strength / anabolic activity ... deranged as it sounds.

Novice!
Why not use an ECA instead of the Clen?
Personally I don't like clen and it only really works when you at really low bodyfat. More for comp prep.
Also your receptors get use to clen within a few days, so you have to cycle on and off it.

Howzit Skythe, ive been thinking about that as well and ive already got some heat so it would be easier but alot of guys are giving good reports about LP's clen so i was considering giving that a try to.

but then if i mix heat and creatine, thats where the problems come in..
Are the gains made with Anavar + creatine alot different than that of straight anavar?

Dude you know as well as I do that gains come from diet and hard work.
I personally don't even use creatine, until I started contest prep.
I'm only taking it with a pre-workout drink.

On a cutting phase A-var is a good match with 120-140 mcg of clen, stacked with something like winny.
The combo improves muscle hardness and striation as well as support some mass and strength. I would add test pro or Equi, rather than winny due to less hazard on the liver.
50mg of winny every day to every other day stacked with 30-40 mg of A-Var daily would give you good result in overall strength, without adding a mentionable amount of weight.

I spend my money on food, whey, glutamine, ECA, vitamins, EFA's and I've had awesome results.
At the mo my cutting cycle is test prop, masteron and winny.
Don't really believe in just taking orals by them selves.

I know DJ is using it at the moment, so maybe he should jump into this discussion.

Shot for the info skyth, will work someting out eventually.

cheers