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14 Mar 2009 12:43 #10621 by WTF
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What does DHT conversion mean?
I am a bit confused on this subject

I have lots of ideas. Trouble is, most of them suck.

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14 Mar 2009 13:18 #10623 by admin
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Conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT)

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14 Mar 2009 13:23 #10624 by getaphix
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5-alpha-reductase (I think) is the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
DHT is a more potent androgen, that bind strongly to the androgen receptor.

DHT is the base compound for a number of steroids i.e. Masteron, winstrol, etc.
DHT based steroids do not aromatise to estrogen i.e. no water gain

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14 Mar 2009 13:25 #10625 by WTF
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What effect does this have on the body, because I see that Winstrol has no conversion as well as Dianabol or Deca-Durabolin
saanabolics.co.za/16stanozololwinstrol.html

But most of the tests do, and this is high.

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14 Mar 2009 13:30 #10626 by getaphix
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Winstron doesn't convert to DHT cos it is a DHT based anabolic.
Deca doesn't convert to DHT cos it is a 19-nor anabolic.

Only testosterone converts to dihydrotestosterone.

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14 Mar 2009 13:32 #10627 by WTF
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Is this what causes the hair loss?

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14 Mar 2009 13:34 #10628 by getaphix
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WTF wrote:

Is this what causes the hair loss?


Hair loss is one of the sides of DHT, if you are suseptable to hair loss i.e. if you gonna go bald, DHT will help it along, but if your not prone to hair loss DHT wont be that bad.

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14 Mar 2009 13:42 #10629 by WTF
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ok, Please correct me if I am wrong....

So then Deca-Durabolin would have very little effect on hair loss as it converts to NOR-DHT, not much water retention as the aromatization is low.

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14 Mar 2009 13:50 #10630 by getaphix
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14 Mar 2009 14:02 #10632 by getaphix
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Nooooo.

Deca will bloat you up as much as test.

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14 Mar 2009 14:22 #10635 by WTF
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What would you add to the deca to reduce the bloating as well as the estrogen levels?

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14 Mar 2009 14:47 #10636 by getaphix
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From what I know, there is nothing to reduce the deca bloat, AI don't seem to be effective.

see www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/deca-durabolin.htm

What are you looking to achieve, hairloss & bloat aside?
What are you stats?
What have you used before?

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14 Mar 2009 14:59 #10637 by WTF
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32 years
100Kg
about 20-25% body fat.

I am looking to loose the fat,
But I am learning all I can about the stuff before I go on any thing, what worries me is the hair loss thing.

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14 Mar 2009 15:11 #10638 by getaphix
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Hair loss is a minor issue i.e. it won't kill or hurt you (ok it may hurt your looks & some of us are ugly enough)

I gather you havn't used anabolics before.
How long have you been training?
Have you reached your training peak or are you looking for a shortcut.

There is some good reading to be had on the 2 sites I pointed you at.
I strongly suggest that you do a lot more reading before taking the plunge, you really want to have a solid understanding of what you are doing.
Google will trun up plenty of reading matterial.

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14 Mar 2009 15:15 #10639 by WTF
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I have been training on and off for about 6 years.

I have read a lot up on the stuff, gone through a few books now I am using this forum to ensure that I am correct in my understanding, as well as the books don't always seem to tell every thing.

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14 Mar 2009 15:30 #10640 by WTF
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Let me tell you a little story

About six years ago I had the unfortunate luck of getting perocarditus (and infection of the pericardium, the sack that hold the heart in place)
It’s like having a heart attack, the surging pain that shoots though your chest and into your shoulder, the stabbing pain in your chest whenever you take a breath, no matter how deep or shallow, the pain gets worse when you lie down, and this pain is always there.
So naturally I went to the hospital to get the best help that money could buy (well at least the best that discovery heath would let me).
Well, the doctors took my hand, bent me over and fucked me up with prednisone, cortisone, and a host of other drugs.
After two years, the best cardiologists, and R100 000, the doctors had no idea what caused it, and still don’t. Luckily for me I had started ozone therapy and more natural and holistic medications, I haven’t had a problem since.
So, I am sitting with a large amount of fat that I just cant get rid of.
I was 64kg before the problem, went up to 115kg and now down to 100kg.

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14 Mar 2009 16:54 #10641 by getaphix
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yeah, cortisone is a bitch if used over an extended period - moon face & blows you up like a balloon.

But seriously, don't look at anabolics as a shortcut. They are for when you have reached your peak and need help getting to the next level.

Chat to djeasye for some help with diet and cardio training etc. he knows his oats.
He can aslo give some good advice on cutting cycles.

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16 Mar 2009 13:08 #10675 by WOT
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getaphix wrote:

Nooooo.

Deca will bloat you up as much as test.




100% correct

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16 Mar 2009 13:32 #10678 by WOT
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getaphix wrote:

Nooooo.

Deca will bloat you up as much as test.




100%

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