New Kid wanting Advice

haha ok so not usn so what then :laugh:

Don`t get me wrong here i`m not 18 only 21

USN example - took 120 capsule Phedracut XT New and Improved label from 20 Jan 09 to 20 Feb 09 with a clean diet. 10 min cardio and 1 hour weight training 5 days a week. Went from 20% BF to ..........wait for it............20% BF. More examples to follow............

ok can some one mabye help with the cycle i have 2 use on anavar clenbeutrol and winstrol(tabs)

the best and most accurat if posible?for the best results!thanx alot guys

Help someone please

Clen (40mg)... 2 tabs a day, 20mg (1/2) a tab at a time, 3 hours apart
Anavar (10mg) 2 tabs a day, 12 hours apart
Win Tabs (10mg).. 2 to 3 tabs a day.

lol you mean all those fancy usn products are just jack?

steroido wrote:

lol you mean all those fancy usn products are just jack? i shud stop buying them then

That would be correct

Thats it and how long is the cycle?

You can do it for about 10 - 12 weeks

North_Boy1 wrote:

USN example - took 120 capsule Phedracut XT New and Improved label from 20 Jan 09 to 20 Feb 09 with a clean diet. 10 min cardio and 1 hour weight training 5 days a week. Went from 20% BF to ..........wait for it............20% BF. More examples to follow............

Hard luck man...
The reason i go for usn sometimes is cause i get it for under cost
Where abouts do you gym man?

ok cool thanx bud!! anything els i must know?

Don't do drugs......

@Mr_SA,
Wonderpark PTA....VA

USN is over-rated

Ceej wrote:

Don't do drugs......

hahahaha no thanx:laugh:

Smurf wrote:

ok cool thanx bud!! anything els i must know?

No, thats about it...
You dont need to post course or anything.

Just gym as hard as possible.

mail me if you need anything else.. i might have a cycle somewhere on my pc.

North_Boy1 wrote:

@Mr_SA,
Wonderpark PTA....VA

Oh, thought it was JHB north... lol

thanx a million

USN Cheap, EVOX is cheap.. its all junk But on the other hand WAR whey is AWESOME and cheaper than USN.

I spend about R8k to R14k a month for the last year and half on my food/diet, training and gear.. and I can only show 5kilos increase.

About to go spend another R5K +/- on more stuff this evening! Just waiting for my salary to clear today.

Mr_SA wrote:

You can do it for about 10 - 12 weeks

ok do a little research before handing out advice bud, both anavar and winny are orals and maximum anyone should be on an oral substance is 6 weeks top end as winny is actually liver toxic after that date. anavar is also gonna put stress on the liver at 6 weeks so u telling a kid to take winny and anavar orals for 10-12 weeks is fucking irresponsible and shows that u have not researched any of the compounds u have listed. also running clen for 12 weeks straight without ketofin or cycling it will actually be like burning his money. if running clen run a 2 week on 2 week off proticol or run clen with a substance called ketofin.


Smurf dude,do not listen to what this guy is saying as he lacks knowledge of the substances he is advising u on. also if running an oral use milk thistle and essential as they are both liver protectors.

i am very against u using gear right now,rather look at your diet cos with out a proper diet u are gonna be pissing your money to the wall,and taking idiotic advice like mr_sa is handing out is gonna do more damage than good.i bet u now u can get the results u need by adjusting your diet and doing some cardio and getting to low level body fat....nce u are at a good level of body fat then u can look at gear.i would wait till at least 22-23 before u start!

dude knowledge is power and if u dont do the reading up on the chemicals u are using u are gonna hurt yourself!also u gotta realise that winstrol has a negative feedback loop on your testicles stopping testosterone production so u need a decent post cycle and if u are killing your test production then its defiantly worth while adding in test to that cycle!

DJ once again you have come to the table with sound advice. Anyone who takes advice from Mr Sa is looking for trouble. Dj Is seriously Pro Helping beginners find their way and you will be stupid not to listen to his advice. Its always sound and consistent.

Hi Smurf, know I'm bit late on this thread but PLEASE just listen to this.
I'm just a couple of years older than you, same thing - was rock hard and super fit. So I was also tempted to use gear. Luckily I got some good advice, (my friend who then gymed with me did not get it...) I adapted my diet, gymed my arse off, got a decent gym program (there are lots of both on this site) and used basics, whey protein, GOOD creatine, good multi-vitamin, glutamine, stopped boozing & King Pie ect. By just doin this I gained 6kg's in 2 months, this may not sound like much but it was pure muscle, not water retention. My squat went up with about 60kg and my bench with 25kg.

Point I'm trying to make is that you should not use gear "just because" Gym ur arse off for year or two or whatever and if you can honestly say you can get no better with regards to ur diet and program and you are not showing any gains (or minimal gains) by all means do reseach on gear and then use gear.

@ dj

I`m turning 22 in a month

What i really want is some that can build me quik but not houge not like naplin??
i know its gona be hard work but i wana give it a shot?
and thanx for the save