EQ for 10 weeks?

Hey guys I did search but cant seem to find anything solid.

I know that its recommended to run EQ for at least 12 weeks but if I had to run it for only 10 weeks at 350mg a week would it be worth while? I cant afford to run it any longer

This will be my second cycle.

The cycle would look like this

Week 1-4: 40mg Dbol ED
Week 1-15: 600mg TestE
Week 1-10: 350mg EQ

Bridge with either 4 weeks Proviron 40mg ED or Winni 40mg ED

PCT will be Clomid Nolva and HCG

Could I maybe swap out the last 5 weeks of test for test prop so that i dont have to wait as long to start pct and rather just add in my winni or proviron at week 12 so that as soon as the test prop has cleared I can start PCT.

I have also considered doing a test only cycle which would look like this

Week 1-4: 40mg Dbol ED
Week 1-15: 640mg ST each week
Bridge will be test prop and winni or proviron same as the equi cycle

OR

Week 1-4: 40mg Dbol
Week 1-12: 800mg each week (Im not to keen on running 800mg test for 12 weeks)
Bridge will be same as Equi cycle

Please any input will be great.

I ran Equipoise on 10 weeks....

And honestly .. I regret not running it longer as I saw
no major gains..

Rather save for some a extra vial and get rhe extra end result....

I think running it for like 14-16 weeks was advised .
Cant remember what MG I ran it for..It was long ago.

Kkkyle why not hit the npp?

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Spend the money on an extra vial of EQ or don't do EQ. One is not enough and you will be disappointed. With 2 vials you can do 13 weeks EQ @525mg/week (1.5ml per week) which is the bare minimum I would suggest. If I had to choose one anabolic injectable to go with the Test E instead of EQ I would also go for NPP.

Thanks guys. Well after looking at how much it would cost I could squeeze in two vials of NPP. So that would make it 300mg split into two pins a week. Now wouldn't running NPP make me vonerable to the chances of progesterone gyno? Or would 300mg for 10weeks be realitivly safe?

The cycle would look something like

Week 1-15: 600mg tastE
Week 1-10: 300mg NPP

winni or proviron bridge and dbol to kick off the cycle.

Is that better?

Thanks guys. Well after looking at how much it would cost I could squeeze in two vials of NPP. So that would make it 300mg split into two pins a week. Now wouldn't running NPP make me vonerable to the chances of progesterone gyno? Or would 300mg for 10weeks be realitivly safe?<br />
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The cycle would look something like<br />
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Week 1-15: 600mg tastE<br />
Week 1-10: 300mg NPP <br />
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winni or proviron bridge and dbol to kick off the cycle.<br />
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Is that better?

You would still only need to control estrogen,(dont know all the science behind it) this will in turn keep progesterone sides at bay. You might want to run a low dose of cabaser in your cycle to speed up recovery once pct starts.

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I prefer to always go with rather safe than sorry. At 300mg you probably won't need cabaser, and if you are taking an AI then the risk is even lower. But some guys are very sensitive to prolactin gyno and some aren't. You don't know if you are one of the unlucky guys (like me) until the shit hits the fan. So even though it is unlikely just be sure that you can get your hands on cabaser if need be. You should have an AI anyway though. If money is an issue then delay your cycle until you can afford it. Don't ever skimp on ancilliaries, the guys who do are the ones with perma-puff on their pecs.

Thanks guys well I'm definitely keen on running the NPP then. Should be a fun ride

NPP is advised to be pinned eod. You should get away with mon/wed/fri pinning. Would'nt 2pins per week be on the low side?

Wouldn't two pins a week be okay? Or would the blood levels be to unstable?

Kkkyle wrote: Wouldn't two pins a week be okay? Or would the blood levels be to unstable?

That would be my guess. Lowest i would go is mon/wed/fri pinning. That is why NPP makes for a great 8 week cycle with test prop and winni or NPP/test prop/masteron. NPP is a great compound but adding it to a long ester cycle add some complications when it comes to a pinning schedule.

The phenylprop ester has a slightly longer half life than prop so you can get away with a slightly longer gap between injections although EOD would give more stable levels. I do twice a week or E3D with NPP.

Check out the graph to see when peak serum levels start dropping off with NPP. It is not a huge drop if you pin every Monday morning and then Thursday evening (3.5 days), vs EOD - 27nM vs 21nM.

Thanks MA. So just to be clear if I had to pin every Saturday evening and Wednesday's on the afternoon it shouldn't be a problem?

I was also thinking do you think I should add NPP to a second cycle. Or should I rather just do one more test cycle with maybe some proviron added rather.

I love the sound of NPP but it does also scare me. All those extra sides. I mean how much more would it improve my gains in a second cycle compared to a 3rd cycle?

I would save it for when you do a propper short ester cycle with test prop and masteron or winni. Rather add a oral like anavar to your current cycle. Or just a oral kicker and ride it out with winni at the end. Keep it simple!

@muscleaddict: I like your approach bud! You always give good answers with scientific back-up. a Very valuable member to this forum indeed!+1

Yes, twice a week split evenly is fine. I don't think it is necessary to do anything besides test and an oral or test prop kickstart for a second cycle unless you are already really big and lean. You will pack on muscle just fine with that if your diet is right. But with so many options available it's hard to keep things simple. My vote is for just test but if you are dead set on NPP and have done your research about the sides and what to do then no worries.

Yea I think I'll just stick to test. So that for a later cycle I can do it properly. Thanks a lot for the help okes.

Just out of interest what would a reasonable test dosage be for second cycle?

I am a advocate for keeping dosages low. This opinion is not out of experience but rather common sense. I would keep test dosages 500 to 600mg/week on all cycles and rather play with additional compounds suited for your cycle goal at that stage