Anabolic effects of clenbuterol confirmed!

I’ve been helping a chick with her training for the last couple of months and one of our goals were to drop some body fat and gain more muscle. She was already familiar with cardio training ect as she’s done that before to stay in shape and keep fit, but lately she ask me to help raise the bar.

So we decided to drop cardio and concentrate on weight training and a good clean diet. I also needed a guinea pig to test the new Liquid-Pharma clenbuterol, so I had her work up to about 70mcg daily.

The interesting part is that she gained at least 5Kg of muscle mass in two months while still losing body fat. She started on 59Kg and when the cycle ended she was 64Kg. Unfortunately, we never took BF measurements, but she is visibly leaner and more toned.

She’s was also using ketotifen permanently for some of her allergies.

Have any of you guys experienced anabolic effects like these with Clen alone?

well, i felt stronger on it, dont know if it wase all in mind, but i did, probably due to the muscle contracting harder,

i juz love clen!!!

i love the Liquid Pharma Clen!!!!!

The fat loss but not the anabolic effects. Sure she isn't doing a little prima on the side?

well admin wouldve stated if she was fresh...

Clenbuterol has well documented anabolic properties similar to that of ephedrine, instead of working on the testicular axis for strength/mass like anabolic steroids do they work instead to upregulate neural activity in the brain enhancing the contraction and power of contraction in targeted muscle making the subject slightly stronger, this increased strength leads in turn to the body adapting by growing new muscle tissue due to the now increased loads placed upon it, clen is also anti catabolic also in the way that it is muscle sparing under times of caloric deficit(eg contest dieting etc).

I think this chicks body probably responded extremely favourably to the increased protein/weight training probably more so than the avg individual.

Interesting but again goes to show that we are all individuals and respond differently to differing stimuli/chemical etc.

Myo

Admin was she on it permanently and using ketotifen?

Novice! wrote:

Admin was she on it permanently and using ketotifen?

She was permanently on ketotifen for her allergies and only added Clen for two months...

She actually uses ketotifen (2mg) for what it was intended in the first place, but that also gave her the advantage to use the Clen non stop for two months.

from what i can remember about Clen is that ketofetin will keep the activity of Clenbuterol in the body more constant, removing the requirement to cycle on and cycle off ...

the ''anabolic'' effects of Clen are only documented in studies that were done in the 80's on chickens ... to the best of my knowledge there is no documented proof that Clenbuterol has any noticeable anabolic effect in humans.

that said, never ever underestimate the power of the placebo effect ... or perhaps the Clen just helped create and environment where her natural anabolic state was pushed into its best possible 'zone'... ?

WOT

:woohoo: Hi Admin, great to here real life testimonials on new products, as I have just recieved my first bottle of clen from L/P, What amount should I be taking,and how do you measure it out, ie drops or what.????
Shrek

one drop is 5mcg the stuff is really hectic over did it he first day could not sleep that night managed to fall asleep at 4 am i did 80mcg of it last dosage at about 1pm

Went and looked this up ...


Clenbuterol is really only anabolic in animals because they have what is called alpha 3 receptors. These receptors are found in abundance in most animals and produces anabolic growth while the Alpha 2 and beta2+3 recptors create fat loss by speeding up your brown fat cells. Basically humans have so little of A3's that we don't get anabolic effects from Clenbuterol. Some people have reported it though, But I would have to think only for the first three days, untill down regulation kicked in, and they probably had a high amount of A3 receptors.

Clenbuterol is effective in increasing muscle mass and decreasing fat loss in animals. The problem with the variation in anabolic effects between humans and livestock is that livestock have an abundance of the type 3 beta receptors whereas humans have little if any of the type 3 beta receptors. These beta-3 receptors increases insulin secretion and sensitivity, causing more glucose and amino acids to be transported into skeletal muscle thus causing the anabolic effects that we, humans, just aren't seeing. As Dan Duchaine stated in his Muscle Media article on clenbuterol, "In those animal research studies showing an anabolic effect from clenbuterol, it's my guess the anabolism happens specifically when the beta2 receptor stops working. At that point, the beta3 increases and causes the anabolic effect through insulin mechanisms." Since humans, again, have either very little or no beta-3 receptors, there is no chance of this anabolic effect. Just another of the studies where everyone assumed that what works in animals must work in humans. This is just simply not the case with clenbuterol.

WOT wrote:

Went and looked this up ...


Clenbuterol is really only anabolic in animals because they have what is called alpha 3 receptors. These receptors are found in abundance in most animals and produces anabolic growth while the Alpha 2 and beta2+3 recptors create fat loss by speeding up your brown fat cells. Basically humans have so little of A3's that we don't get anabolic effects from Clenbuterol. Some people have reported it though, But I would have to think only for the first three days, untill down regulation kicked in, and they probably had a high amount of A3 receptors.

Clenbuterol is effective in increasing muscle mass and decreasing fat loss in animals. The problem with the variation in anabolic effects between humans and livestock is that livestock have an abundance of the type 3 beta receptors whereas humans have little if any of the type 3 beta receptors. These beta-3 receptors increases insulin secretion and sensitivity, causing more glucose and amino acids to be transported into skeletal muscle thus causing the anabolic effects that we, humans, just aren't seeing. As Dan Duchaine stated in his Muscle Media article on clenbuterol, "In those animal research studies showing an anabolic effect from clenbuterol, it's my guess the anabolism happens specifically when the beta2 receptor stops working. At that point, the beta3 increases and causes the anabolic effect through insulin mechanisms." Since humans, again, have either very little or no beta-3 receptors, there is no chance of this anabolic effect. Just another of the studies where everyone assumed that what works in animals must work in humans. This is just simply not the case with clenbuterol.

Yes, I knew about this finding and believed it 100%. I also spoke to Doctari about this in great detail and we concluded that it is only anabolic in animals.

That is also why I was so amazed by the amount of muscle gain and fat loss in the first place as I really didn't expect it. 5Kg in two months is simply not possible without any outside help like anabolics or other medication. But since only Clen and Ketotifen was used, I have no other explanation.

THANKS DREAMER, 1 drop is 5mcgs so how much should a 76kg person take per day and should it be increased, and up to how much. Would it not be more accurate to draw it out of the bottle in ius (ie in a slin dart) and then measure it out into the water before drinking it???????

concluded that it is only anabolic in animals.

How bad is her PMS - i've come across some women who have a close resemblance to female dogs around that time.....

hey bro,

i hear what you're saying ... and i must say , it is quite interesting that you're reporting noticeable gains with no other explanation. All i can conclude is that EVERY SINGLE human being is different, and maybe she's just lucky that she responds so well to that choice of cycle !!

WOT

shrek wrote:

THANKS DREAMER, 1 drop is 5mcgs so how much should a 76kg person take per day and should it be increased, and up to how much. Would it not be more accurate to draw it out of the bottle in ius (ie in a slin dart) and then measure it out into the water before drinking it???????

Bro, start at a low dose, say 40mcg p/day and work your way to the max you can handle, no more than 120mcg p/day. Clen is person specific on max dose, I can take 140 - 160 mcg p/day and Admin (if memory serves) has had 200 plus mcg. I just hate the shakes and also depends on the brand as well (dosing accuracy), the LP stuff is spot on, so you can get an accurate dose with 1 drop = 5mcg and it is also consistent between the batches.

You will have to do the math on using a slin pin and use what ever method is easiest for you to get the correct amount of liquid out

Hi Guys

Gonna start my second coarse of LP Clen all i wanted to know was during the day when do you take it also i don't feel much of the side effects mentioned maybe the shakes for an hour or so after taking then nothing is that normal?

Thanks