Tren Cycle

Hi All

Please see the attached cycle... This is a cycle i was thinking of using.

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I have been on a course of steroids before...
Dianabol
Deca
Test Combo 300
Anavar
Clen
Clomid
Pregnyll

I am now thinking of Tren150 (PGW) and Anavar20 (LP), ending on Clomid.

I go to gym 5 days a week, religiously. Been training for just over a year now.
Looking to gain lean muscle, and trying to get away from water retention.
I am trying to put about 5-6Kg's of muscle on.

Any VALUABLE input to this would be really appreciated.

Thanks

no test with tren? goood luck to your man member... tren causes major shut down so u need to add in test to that,if u looking for lean muscle then bust the test prop otherwise tren is not a good one to use on its own. u could do the 5-6kgs of lean mass with just using anavar.

i will add some test prop if i was you

Thanks very much for that advice.
Which test prop do you propose?

Is test prop prone to giving people acne?
I pimples on my back and shoulders from my last course, but i think that was the Dianabol. Just really dont want that back!!!!

You say you've been on A course. Then it might be a bit to early to jump onto tren. Why not take equi, test and anavar at the end with decent PCT. The equi is less suppresive than tren, plus the increased appetite with equi will help a lot. The sides with equi would also be a lot less than tren.

djeasye wrote:

u could do the 5-6kgs of lean mass with just using anavar.

DJ, could you do me a cycle for this??? Please.

dbol wrote:

You say you've been on A course. Then it might be a bit to early to jump onto tren. Why not take equi, test and anavar at the end with decent PCT. The equi is less suppresive than tren, plus the increased appetite with equi will help a lot. The sides with equi would also be a lot less than tren.

Interesting... The reason for me choosing TREN is because i read that it has almost no side effects. And the Mass gained is kept.

Mate your info is way wrong! Tren and Anadrol are propably the most dangerous substances to use. Tren is even more suppresive than Deca.

dbol wrote:

Mate your info is way wrong! Tren and Anadrol are propably the most dangerous substances to use. Tren is even more suppresive than Deca.

Thanks for clearing that up then!!

Mr_SA wrote:

dbol wrote:

You say you've been on A course. Then it might be a bit to early to jump onto tren. Why not take equi, test and anavar at the end with decent PCT. The equi is less suppresive than tren, plus the increased appetite with equi will help a lot. The sides with equi would also be a lot less than tren.

Interesting... The reason for me choosing TREN is because i read that it has almost no side effects. And the Mass gained is kept.

i pretty much live on Tren Acetate ... its' my gold standard in any cycle.

Tren doesn't aromotise , that's not to say it is without side effects. Tren is hepa toxic so you need to make sure you are plowing through water and are taking Hawthorne Berry and some Milk Thistle.

i get no acne whatsover from Tren + Test Prop , i'm running Test Prop + Tren Ace + Primo Acetate + Wintstrol currently to finish off quite a long cycle ...

you need keep your vitamin intake very high , Tren will kill your immune system and you'll find yourself becoming prone to sore throats and small ailments etc

a joint support supplement is also a good idea ...

WOT

Thanks WOT

WOT. Do you really think it's worth all the risks? This guy is on his second cycle, and clearly does not have a lot of experience with the precautions when taking substances like that. The fact that it's so suppressive will hamper post cycle therapy and if it's not done properly will cause permanent damage.

I would advise a milder and safer cycle, while not hampering the HPTA too much, and make slow but steady progress over a longer time period without later issues. I would even go the route that DJ gave, do an Anavar only cycle, make some gains and keep your HPTA intact.

If you have a few cycles behind you, and have a bit more experience, by all means use tren. If you are still new to this whole thing, like Mr SA clearly is, rather play it safe and get to know your body. Too many youngsters jump onto the tren train straight away, and leave no room for anything later.

dbol wrote:

WOT. Do you really think it's worth all the risks? This guy is on his second cycle, and clearly does not have a lot of experience with the precautions when taking substances like that. The fact that it's so suppressive will hamper post cycle therapy and if it's not done properly will cause permanent damage.

I would advise a milder and safer cycle, while not hampering the HPTA too much, and make slow but steady progress over a longer time period without later issues. I would even go the route that DJ gave, do an Anavar only cycle, make some gains and keep your HPTA intact.

If you have a few cycles behind you, and have a bit more experience, by all means use tren. If you are still new to this whole thing, like Mr SA clearly is, rather play it safe and get to know your body. Too many youngsters jump onto the tren train straight away, and leave no room for anything later.

bro what you're saying is sensible and quite accurate. but its also my opinion that most people are not easily put off their initial choices by the 'experience' factor ... i know i wasn't. I made mistakes and i jumped into heavy cycles and paid the price by losing gains and ending up looking like crap ...

i'd rather impart the advice i have to give, and let them make their own choices.

As always, young guys are always stubborn about accepting advice, or admitting they wrong. I have ordered Anavar and S-drol only, for the mean time, just till i can do proper research, and see what course will be best.
I do appreciate the help and advice though. What you have both said makes sense.

I agree with you. Let the guy make his own decisions. I just want to give him the safer and not necesarally the worst option.

One thing that i want people to know is that you don't need the strongest compound available to make decent gains. I believe that it's better to use something that doesn't affect HPTA to much, like Anavar, where you would gain less weight, but keep most of your gains. I really think that over a period of 3 years one might be better off doing a few mild cycles while keeping most of your gains, than doing a few strong cycles and loosing most of what you gained, plus you would be worse off health wise.

dbol wrote:

I agree with you. Let the guy make his own decisions. I just want to give him the safer and not necesarally the worst option.

One thing that i want people to know is that you don't need the strongest compound available to make decent gains. I believe that it's better to use something that doesn't affect HPTA to much, like Anavar, where you would gain less weight, but keep most of your gains. I really think that over a period of 3 years one might be better off doing a few mild cycles while keeping most of your gains, than doing a few strong cycles and loosing most of what you gained, plus you would be worse off health wise.

i think a lot also depends on personal preference ... i prefer longer cycles, using lower dosages of what some would describe as harsher compounds.

but i've seen bro's explode on 300mg's of Test Enan + 30mg's of Dbols ...

all relative bro ...

WOT

Please remember your PCT. Don't just leave it. Superbol is quite suppresive, so it's very importaint to do PCT. And remember to drink lots of water and take milk thistle as well.

Best of luck with your cycle, keep us posted.

dbol wrote:

Please remember your PCT. Don't just leave it. Superbol is quite suppresive, so it's very importaint to do PCT. And remember to drink lots of water and take milk thistle as well.

Best of luck with your cycle, keep us posted.

Will do

Thanks very much

WOT wrote:

Mr_SA wrote:

dbol wrote:

You say you've been on A course. Then it might be a bit to early to jump onto tren. Why not take equi, test and anavar at the end with decent PCT. The equi is less suppresive than tren, plus the increased appetite with equi will help a lot. The sides with equi would also be a lot less than tren.

Interesting... The reason for me choosing TREN is because i read that it has almost no side effects. And the Mass gained is kept.

i pretty much live on Tren Acetate ... its' my gold standard in any cycle.

Tren doesn't aromotise , that's not to say it is without side effects. Tren is hepa toxic so you need to make sure you are plowing through water and are taking Hawthorne Berry and some Milk Thistle.

i get no acne whatsover from Tren + Test Prop , i'm running Test Prop + Tren Ace + Primo Acetate + Wintstrol currently to finish off quite a long cycle ...

you need keep your vitamin intake very high , Tren will kill your immune system and you'll find yourself becoming prone to sore throats and small ailments etc

a joint support supplement is also a good idea ...

WOT

I must agree, Tren is the best, but be careful as it is hecticly toxic. The CDG stuff looks like tequila. Same color.

and its got a similar kick to it too ...

WOT wrote:

and its got a similar kick to it too ...

why would u want to drink your tren